Unknown (Venables) de Venables (bef. 1090)

Born before 1090 in Venables, Normandie [uncertain]

Descendants

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Biography

Unknown de Venables,^[1][2] possible lord of the Cheshire barony of Kinderton.

This profile represents the son of Gilbert de Venables, earliest known lord of the Cheshire barony of Kinderton, who is noted in the Domesday Survey. His name is unknown; but his existence is required to continue the line of the Venables of Kinderton.^[3][4]

His son was Gilbert de Venables, second known lord of the Cheshire barony of Kinderton.

Research Notes

• According to both Ormerod's History of Cheshire and the 1580 Visitation of Cheshire, the name of the son of Gilbert Venables, 1st Baron of Kinderton, (ie the person represented by this profile) is unknown.^{[3] [5]} There are numerous trees on the internet that claim his first name was "Gilbert", but they provide no source for the assertion and it is likely that they have confused this person with either his father or son, who were both named Gilbert. Or they may have just assumed he was called Gilbert, that being the name of his father and son. Donnelly-2171 22:48, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

• This profile previously showed that he died in 1160 at Kinderton, Cheshire, England. No reliable source has been found to support this date, so it has been removed. Donnelly-2171 22:56, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

• He was probably born sometime between 1060 and 1090, based on the likely lifespan of his father. He may have been born in either Cheshire or Normandy as his father would have owned property in both. Donnelly-2171 23:43, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Sources

1. ↑ George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, 3 vols. 2nd ed., revised and enlarged by Thomas Helsby (Ludgate Hill, London: George Routledge and Sons, 1882), 3:198.
2. ↑ Robert Glover, The Visitation of Cheshire in the Year 1580 ... With Numerous Additions and Continuations Including ... The Visitation of Cheshire Made in the Year 1566 ..., The Publications of the Harleian Society, Visitation Series, vol. 18, edited by John Paul Rylands (London: The Society, 1882), p. 227, Venables, Baron of Kinderton.
3. ↑ ^{3.0 3.1} Ormerod, History of ... Chester, 3:187.
4. ↑ Glover, Visitation of Cheshire in the Year 1580, p. 227.
5. ↑ Glover, Visitation of Cheshire in the Year 1580, p. 227.

Acknowledgements

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