Elizabeth (Unknown) Large (abt. 1651 - 1727)

Wife of Joseph Large Sr. — married 1673 in Amesbury, Essex, Massachusetts Bay

Descendants

Died 27 May 1727 at about age 76 in Falls Township, Bucks, Pennsylvania

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Disputed Parentage. The surname of Elizabeth, wife of Joseph Large, is nowhere recorded. It may be seen as Simcock (and variations of that spelling) and that she is the daughter of John Simcock and Elizabeth Budd but this is entirely undocumented and Elizabeth daughter of John Simcock is well-documented as married to another person. The Simcock ancestry for the wife of Joseph Large should not be reintroduced absent primary source documentation and discussion with the Quakers Project.

Her maiden name has been seen as Simcoche / Simcock / Simcocke. She married Joseph in 1672-1673 in Amesbury, Essex County, Massachusetts. They were Quakers. They are parents to 14 children. She died in Bucks County, Pennsylvania ^[1]

Biography

It may be seen that she was born in Wyoming County, Pennsylvania in 1651. Wyoming County was not formed until 1842 and was formed from parts of multiple predecessor counties. Additionally, this area was not settled in 1651 being the site of a remote fortification and frequent skirmishes among Native Americans. That the wife of Joseph was born in this part of Pennsylvania at this time is highly improbable and it would not have had the place name of Wyoming County.

Elizabeth ____________ married Joseph Large by 1676 at Amesbury, Massachusetts.^[2] The family still resides in Amesbury, Massachusetts in 1680 according to census substitute records^[3][4] and in 1686 by the birth record of son Samuel.

It may be read that Joseph and his wife Elizabeth relocated to Bucks County from Long Island in 1690 settling near Falls township.^[5] However, there does not appear to be documentation of them living on Long Island.

Joseph passed away 26 July 1709 at Bucks, Pennsylvania.^[6]

Elizabeth's date of death is uncertain but she survived Joseph as she was the executrix of his estate.^[7]

Children

Note: until citations are available for all children, this list is presumed to not be in date order since Samuel is noted as 6th son in the Amesbury vital records.

• Joseph Large - b 4 Sep 1673, Amesbury, Massachusetts^[8]
• Ebenezer Large - b May 1684, Amesbury, Massachusetts^[9]
• Samuel Large - "6th son" b 3 Aug 1686, Amesbury, Massachusetts^[10][8]
• Mary Large - is identified as a daughter of Joseph Large in a marriage record 20 Mar 1706.^[11]
• Richard Large - is identified as being of this family by his 1705 marriage record of Hester Homer.^[12]
• Thomas Large
• Jacob Large
• Daniel Large
• Elizabeth Large - b 31 Mar 1695, Falls MM, Bucks^[6]
• Henry Large - b 10 Oct 1697, Falls MM, Bucks^[6]
• Jonathan Large - b 8 Aug 1699, Falls MM, Bucks^[6]
• John Large - John Large is signatory as witness to the marriage of Richard Large and Hester Homer.^[12] John's death is recorded 1729. A John Large marries Sarah Corker 7 Sep 1709^[13] which indicates he cannot be the same person as Jonathan born in 1699.

Research Notes

It may be read the family moved from Massachusetts, to Long Island, to New Jersey to Pennsylvania. This requires documentation. One source places the marriage on Long Island in 1673 while births of children are recorded in Amesbury thru at least 1686.

Comments regarding the family living in New Jersey appear to originate with the Lundy family genealogy where W.C. Armstrong recounts information on Samuel Large who moved from Burlington County, New Jersey and appears to be the son of an Ebenezer Large. Armstrong does not draw a connection between Joseph and Samuel Large.^[14]

There was a John Simcock and his wife Elizabeth who arrived on August 14,1682 on the ship Friendship. Elizabeth's maiden name may have been Budd. Their sons John and Jacob also came on the same ship. They settled east of Ridley Creek in Ridley Township in PA. There is no proof that Elizabeth Simcoche/Simcock married Joseph Large (and it should be noted that Joseph married his wife in Massachusetts, not Pennsylvania). Joseph's wife remains a puzzle. This information came from Ruth Alexander but she did not list her source. There were Simcock's that were members of the Hardwick MM but that is hardly proof that Elizabeth was a Simcock. This is included here as a possible clue for further research.

Sources

1. ↑ https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/146760159/elizabeth-large
2. ↑ Torrey, New England Marriages to 1700. (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2008.) Originally published as: New England Marriages Prior to 1700. Boston, Mass.: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2015. https://www.americanancestors.org/DB1568/i/21175/922/426893928 Citing Salisbury Fam. 231; Dixon Anc. 18
3. ↑ Jackson, Ron V., Accelerated Indexing Systems, comp.. Massachusetts Census, 1790-1890. Compiled and digitized by Mr. Jackson and AIS from microfilmed schedules of the U.S. Federal Decennial Census, territorial/state censuses, and/or census substitutes.
4. ↑ Massachusetts: Miscellaneous Census Substitutes, 1630-1788, 1840, 1890 (Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2013. From records supplied by Ancestry.com) https://www.americanancestors.org/DB509/rd/13684/10058/242328297
5. ↑ History of Bucks county, Pennsylvania, from the discovery of the Delaware to the present time by Davis, W. W. H. (William Watts Hart), 1820-1910; Ely, Warren S. (Warren Smedley), b. 1855; Jordan, John W. (John Woolf), 1840-1921 p. 484 Note: the information regarding relocation from Long Island is anecdotal and given over 150 years after the fact.
6. ↑ ^{6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3} Swarthmore College; Swarthmore, Pennsylvania; Falls Copy Births, Deaths and Marriages; Collection: Quaker Meeting Records; Call Number: RG2/Ph/F35 3.1
7. ↑ Philadelphia County Wills, 1682-1819. Historical Society of Pennsylvania, 1900.
8. ↑ ^{8.0 8.1} Amesbury Vital Records, Massachusetts: Vital Records, 1620-1850 (Online Database: AmericanAncestors.org, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001-2016).https://www.americanancestors.org/DB190/i/7645/158/141162673
9. ↑ Hinshaw, William Wade, et al., compilers. Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy. Vol II:178, Burlington (New Jersey) Monthly Meeting minutes stating the birth was in "Almsbury, New England."
10. ↑ "Massachusetts Births and Christenings, 1639-1915", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FHLB-2LN : 15 January 2020), Samuel Large, 1686.
11. ↑ Encyclopedia of American Quaker genealogy, by ... v.2. Hinshaw, William Wade, 1867-1947. Vol II:1024
12. ↑ ^{12.0 12.1} Swarthmore College; Swarthmore, Pennsylvania; Record of Births and Burials; Collection: Quaker Meeting Records; Call Number: MR Ph 176
13. ↑ Swarthmore College; Swarthmore, Pennsylvania; Minutes, 1683-1730; Collection: Philadelphia Yearly Meeting Minutes; Call Number: MR-Ph 177. Falls Monthly Meeting.
14. ↑ Armstrong, W.C., The Lundy Family and their Descendants of Whatsoever Surname, with a Biographical Sketch of Benjamin Lundy, New Brunswick, New Jersey, 1902, p 421