John Sutton KG
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John Sutton KG (1400 - 1487)

Sir John "1st Baron Dudley" Sutton KG
Born in Dudley Castle, Staffordshire, Englandmap
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Died at age 86 in Dudley Castle, Staffordshire, Englandmap
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John Sutton was born at 25 December 1400 and baptised at Barton-under-Need wood, Staffordshire, became 1st Baron Dudley and a Knight of the Garter, a nd died at Stafford, Staffordshire. His father was Sir John de Sutton V a nd his mother was Constance Blount. John 1st Baron Dudley married Elizabe th de Berkeley, of Beverstone (died 1478), widow of Edward Charleton, 5 th Baron Cherleton and daughter of Sir John Berkeley, of Beverstone, Glouc estershire (1349–1428) and Elizabeth Bettershorne and sister of Eleanor Fi tzAlan, wife of John FitzAlan, 13th Earl of Arundel, sometime after 14 Mar ch 1420.
Dudley was summoned to Parliament from 15 February 1440, by writs direct ed to "Johanni de Sutton de Duddeley militi", whereby he obtained a Baro ny by writ as Lord Dudley. He was the first of his family to adopt the sur name of Dudley as an alias for Sutton. "John Dudley, Knyght, Lord Dudle y" died testate in his 87th year. His will is dated 17 August 1487. The ba rony was inherited by his grandson, Edward Sutton, 2nd Baron Dudley, Lo rd Dudley, son of Edmund de Sutton who was the heir but died after 6 Ju ly 1483 but before his father.
As Lord Steward in 1422 Sutton brought home the body of King Henry V to En gland, and was chief mourner and standard bearer at his funeral. From 1428 –1430 he served as Lord Lieutenant of Ireland. Dudley fought in several ca mpaigns throughout the period of the wars with France, and on several occa sions acted as a diplomat in the mid-1440s, when he also met Charles V II of France. In 1443 he was made a king's councillor and became one of t he favourite companions of King Henry VI. In 1451 he became a Knight of t he Garter.[3] Early on in the Wars of the Roses he was a resolute defend er of the House of Lancaster, but changed his allegiance to York before t he Battle of Towton in 1561.
At the Battle of St Albans 1455 John Lord Dudley took part with his son Ed mund, where he was taken prisoner along with Henry VI. At the Battle of Bl ore Heath he was present on 23 September 1459, equally with his son Edmu nd Sutton. Dudley was wounded and again captured. At Towton (1461) he w as rewarded after the battle for his participation on the side of Edwar d, Earl of March, son of Richard, Duke of York. On June 28 of that year, E dward IV was proclaimed King in London. Following the Battle of Bosworth Field in August 1485, Dudley was created Sheriff of Sussex by the new King Henry VII (Wikipedia).

Burial: St. Jame's Priory, Dudley, Will: 17 AUG 1487 1

Occupation: 1422 Lord Steward 1

Occupation: BET 1428 AND 1430 Lord Lieutenant of Ireland 1

Occupation: BET 1440 AND 1487 1st Baron Dudley 1

Occupation: 1459 Knight of the Garter 2

Occupation: 1485 Sheriff of Sussex 1[1][2][3]

John Sutton, 1st Baron Dudley

John's son and heir, Edmund Sutton, Knt., predeceased him. He was succeeded by Edmund's son, Edward Sutton, 2nd Baron Dudley.

Vitals

John Sutton[4]
b. 25 DEC 1400 Barton-under-Needwood, Staffordshire[5]
Christening: Barton,Derby[6]
d. 30 SEP 1487 Dudley Castle, Staffordshire[5] age 87

Titles

  • K.G.: 1460 London[5][7]
  • Lord-Lieutenant of Ireland 1428-30
  • Constable of Clun Castle 3 Nov 1435.
  • summoned to Parliament 15 Feb 1439/40 - 1 Sep 1487, ... became Lord Dudley
  • Constable of Wigmore Castle 20 May 1460.
  • Steward of the Lordship of Montgomery 2 Feb 1459/60.
  • Constable of the Tower 1470-83.

Early Life

p. John Sutton of Dudley, Castle, co. Staff and Constance[8][9]

Family

John married Elizabeth Berkley,[10] daughter of John Berkeley, Knt., and his wife Elizabeth Betteshorne, before 28 June 1421. She was the widow of Edward Cherleton, K.G. (died 14 March 1420/21). Elizabeth died "shortly before 8 December 1478".[11]
John and Elizabeth had five sons and three daughters:[11] including

Timeline

07 NOV 1422: As Lord Stewart, Sutton brought home the body of Henry V and was Chief mourner and Standard Bearer at funeral[5]
1428–1429 - John Sutton was appointed Lord Lieutenant of Ireland [12]
26 SEP 1439 Parliament Court Chapel, London: Baron ... Summoned to Parliament by writ directed Johanni de Sutton de Duddeley militi[5]
1451: One return from Ireland captured by Richard, Duke of York, at Gloucester and sent to prison at Ludlow Castle, Ludlow, Shropshire[5]

Battle of St Albans 1455

Found amongst the Lancastrian army at the first Battle of St Albans on 22 May 1455 were John Sutton of Dudley, Worcestershire and his son Edmund Sutton of Dudley, Worcestershire. Lord Dudley was taken prisoner along with King Henry VI. Despite previous loyalty to the Lancastrian cause he was soon on diplomatic missions for Yorkists acting as ambassador in negotiations with Burgundy and Brittany.

Battle of Blore Heath 1459

Dudley was present at the Battle of Blore Heath on September 23, 1459, along with his son Edmund Sutton. Dudley was wounded and captured.

Battle of Towton 29 MAR 1461[5]

Dudley was rewarded after battle for participation on the side of Edward, Earl of March, son of Richard, Duke of York. On June 28 of that year, Edward IV was proclaimed King in London.

Battle of Bosworth Field 22 AUG 1485: Battle of Bosworth Field[5]

Following the battle, Dudley was created Sheriff of Sussex by the new King Henry VII.
30 AUG 1485: Created Sheriff of Sussex by Henry VII[5]

Dudley Castle

  • built by Normans. Providing protection since around 1071 the castle saw many changes over the centuries.
  • infamous John Dudley rebuilt it in the Renaissance style only to be beheaded by Queen Mary for trying to put Lady Jane Grey on the throne of England.
  • supported Royalist cause and surrendering in 1646 after the defeat of Charles I at Naseby.
  • 1750 fire all but destroyed the accommodation at Dudley Castle. The fire is said to have burned for three days. The huge expense of restoration left the family with no choice but to move to nearby Himley Hall.

Sources

  1. "Royal Ancestry" 2013, Douglas Richardson Vol. V. p. 103
  2. "Royal Ancestry" 2013, Douglas Richardson Vol. II. p. 143
  3. http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=arciek&id=I14043
  4. The Cotton and Sutton Dudley Lineage: connections to many of the Barons of the Magna Charta, Knight William Marshall and Isabel de Clare as well as the Plantagenets, Charlemagne and the Merovingian Dynasty; First in family to adopt surname Dudley as an alias for John Sutton;
    • The Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Edited by Vicary Gibbs
    • Wilson, Derek (2005): The Uncrowned Kings of England: The Black History of the Dudleys and the Tudor Throne Carroll & Graf ISBN 0786714697
    • Wolffe, Bertram: Henry VI, Yale Univ Press, 2001, ISBN 0300089260
    • Plantagenet Ancestry of Seventeenth-Century Colonists, by David Faris, pub by Genealogical Pub. Co. Inc. Lib of Cong. Cat. # 96-76348; copyright 1996.
    • The Plantagenet Ancestry of 600 Seventeenth Century Colonists:
    • Weis, Frederick Lewis Periodical: Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 Publication
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 5.5 5.6 5.7 5.8 Ancestry Records: John De Dudley (Sutton); Edmund DUDLEY (SUTTON); John VI Lord Dudley Sutton Alias Dudley; John Sutton, 1st Baron Dudley; Sir John VI Sutton Dudley Lord; John VI (Lord Dudley) Sutton Dudley; Sir John of Dudley Sutton
  6. Source 1 Record for Edmund DUDLEY (SUTTON)
  7. nominated K.G. before 23 Apr 1459
  8. p. Sir Walter Blount
  9. Son and heir; carried Standard at funeral of Henry V in 1422.
  10. Collections for a History of Staffordshire, Vol. 9, Part 1. London: Harrison & Sons, 1888. Pages 65-70. Online at Archive.org.
  11. 11.0 11.1 Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry (2011), volume IV, pages 153-155 SUTTON 7.
  12. Wikipedia List of the Chief Governors of Ireland
10. JOHN SUTTON (or DUDLEY), Knt., KG., of Dudley, Staffordshire, and London, Lord Lieutenant of Ireland, Constable of Clun and Wigmore Castles, Ambassador to Brittany and Burgundy, Treasurer of che Household for King Henry VI, Steward of the Lordship of Montgomery, Constable of the Tower of London, joint Chamberlain to Queen Elizabeth Wydeville, son and heir, born 25 Dec. 1400, and baptized at Barton-under-Needwood, Derbyshire. He married after 14 March 1420/l ELIZABETH BERKELEY, widow of Edward Cherleton (or Charleton), KG., 5th Lord Cherleton (died 14 March 1420/1) [see CHERLETON 9J, and daughter of John Berkeley, Knt., of Beverstone, Gloucestershire, by Elizabeth, daughter and heiress of John de Becteshorne, Knt. [sec FISHER 7 for her ancestry]. They had five sons, Edmund, Knt. (2nd Lord Dudley}, John, Humphrey, William (clerk) {Chancellor of Oxford University, Bishop of Durham], and Oliver, and three daughters, Margaret (wife of George Longueville, Knt.), Jane, and Eleanor. He served in France under King Henry V and bore the royal standard at the .king's funeral in 1422. He fought throughout the wars with France and was a firm supporter of the House of Lancaster in the \Var of the Roses. He was summoned to Parliament from 15 Feb. 1439/40 to 1 Sepe. 1487, by writs directed johanni de Sutton de D11ddeley Militi, whereby he is held to have become Lord Dudley. He was arrested by Richard, Duke of York, on the latter's arrival in England in Sept. 1450, and, in the ensuing parliament, the House of Commons petitioned that he should be removed from the royal presence. He was taken prisoner with King Henry VI in 1455 at the 1st Battle of St. Albans and was sent to the Tower. He was subsequently wounded at the Bmle of Blore Heath 23 Sept. 1459. His wife, Elizabeth, was a legatee in the 1459 will of her sister, Eleanor Hungerford, Countess of Arundel, who bequeathed her .a row of pearls. Elizabeth died shortly before 8 Dec. 1478. SIR JOHN SUITON (or DUDLEY), 1st Lord Dudley, died testate (P.C.C. 8 Milles) 30 Sept. 1487. They were buried in St. James's Priory, Dudley.
  • Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City: the author, 2011. See also WikiTree's source page for Magna Carta Ancestry.
  • George Edward Cokayne and Vicary Gibbs ed. Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Vol. IV: Dacre - Dysart, 2nd edition. (London, 1916). Pages 479-481. Online at Archive.org: Dudley or Sutton of Dudley




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I question whether the 1st Baron of Dudley Castle, Staffordshire was the son of John Sutton, 4th Baron of Dudley (not Castle) who was of Coleshill, Warwickshire and whose name was Sutton not Dudley. The 1st Baron's wife Elizabeth Berkeley was the widow of 5th Baron Edward Cherleton the grandson of 2nd Baron John Cherleton, brother of Isabel who married John Sutton b.1304 (father of Sutton-4735) who was known as Lord of Dudley Castle although it was actually his maternal line who held the title. It would be that John not the John Sutton who married Joan Clinton who was the ancestor of the 1st Baron, that's how he became Baron of Dudley Castle (with all due respect to Doug Richardson), that and his wife's 1st husband. Somewhere between Sutton-4735 and here the name got changed from Sutton to Dudley. I would also question Yorkshire Visitation which makes this John the grandfather of Edward Sutton, 6th Baron of Sutton who was from Dudley but Dudley, Worcestershire not Dudley Castle, Staffordshire (whose COA is shown here). It would appear different Dudley's have been conflated.
posted by Ramsey Corbett
edited by Ramsey Corbett
Could someone add a convenience wikilink for those of us unfamiliar with what "KG" means? E.g.

Knight of the Garter at the first occurrence of the phrase. I'd also suggest [(KG)] in brackets and parens, even though not in Wikipedia. It's a natural flow to search the page for unfamiliar terms, and it's fairly standard to give the abbreviation at first occurrence for easier scanning (with or without a text search). Thanks!

posted by Philip Reed
edited by Philip Reed
Because of relationship uncertainties affecting part of the Magna Carta trials in which John appears, I am removing the Magna Carta Project as manager, along with associated Project information.
posted by Michael Cayley
edited by Michael Cayley
Thank- you! This line needed to be worked on. Some years ago, I tried to merge and clean it up but there was a lot of stuff on some of the family profiles that I did not remove and just tried to format to revisit later. Don't be afraid to delete my old edits in this line. I never finished up ...
posted by [Living Ogle]
The Magna Carta Project identified this profile in a trail between Gateway Ancestor Richard More and one or more Magna Carta surety barons. If there are no objections, I will be adding the project as co-manager of this profile. This profile (and trail) still need to be verified against Richardson's works and then developed against the project's checklist. Thanks!
posted by Traci Thiessen
edited by Traci Thiessen
Dudley-1584 and Sutton-26 appear to represent the same person because: Sutton is LNAB, he was aka John Dudley (Baron Dudley)
posted by Traci Thiessen
Warnings in WikiTree: 864 Almost empty <ref/> tags
posted by Billy Huff
John Sutton is an ancestor of George Washington. Can that be mentioned somewhere on this profile? Thanks.
posted by Zachary Jon Smith
clean up needed

three biography sections should be consolidated to one. also links should probably be in the sources section.

posted by Ray Nichols DD
You have spouse unknown for Katherine Sutton, but I think she married Lionel Louthe of Sawtry Beaumes, Huntingdonshire.
posted by Jean Evans
How do you find out which project they're in and how do you request to join it ?
posted by Robert Patterson

Rejected matches › John Dudley (1515-1551)

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