John Perrot
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John Perrot (abt. 1610 - 1665)

John Perrot
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Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
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Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Died at about age 55 in Jamaicamap
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Quaker John Perrot of Waterford
John Perrot (c1620-1665) was an early Quaker schismatic who set out to convert the Pope in 1658. He had a wife and children in Waterford but was later claimed by relatives to be a blacksmith born in Sedbergh.[1]

He came to England after surviving three years imprisonment in Rome.
After a short period of preaching and a famous dispute with George Fox about wearing hats at prayer, he moved to Barbados in 1662 and later visited the Quakers of Virginia and Maryland [2]. His wife Elizabeth and two children joined him shortly before his death in Jamaica in 1665.

John's problematic orgins and amazing exploits were explored, albeit with somewhat questionable dramatic license, in an Irish TV programme broadcast in 2006. [3]

The origins of John Perrot are unknown and the claim that he has a family connection to Sir John Perrot is unlikely according to his principal biographer.[2] He first appears in Waterford in Ireland in 1655 when he turned from being a Baptist to becoming a Quaker after a convincement by Edward Burrough. His wife and children were still living in Waterford in 1659. [4]

In 1656 he found himself in prison in Limerick, Kilkenny and Dublin before moving on to England where he signed a petition dated December 25 pleading for the mitigation of the sentence on fellow Quaker, James Nayler. The following year he set out with the backing of the Quaker movement on a mission to convert the Sultan of the Ottoman Empire and the Pope. His companions were Beatrice Beckley, Mary Prince, Mary Fisher, John Luffe, and John Buckley. Separating from their companions John and John Luffe eventually became prisoners of the Inquisition. John Luffe died towards the end of 1658 and John himself was not released until mid 1661.

Returning to England John, who had spent years in solitary confinement, found his views at odds with the Quaker establishment. The matter in dispute was men's hats! Men were required to remove their hats in church, but John argued that since women were required to cover their heads men should too otherwise it underlined the inequality of men and women. The establishment found his views to lack humility. John was thenceforward regarded as a schismatic.[5]

He was imprisoned in the summer of 1662 for attending a Quaker meeting in London and was only released on the understanding that he would exile himself to Barbados. In 1664 the Governor, Thomas Modyford, appointed him a captain and John took to wearing gaudy clothing and carrying a sword and associated with Richard Rich, another Quaker separatist.

He died in Jamaica (not Barbados as stated in error by the ODNB [6]) sometime in the 7 days between the drawing up of his will on 30 August 1665 and it being proved on the 7 August of the same year. In a letter dated February 1665 just before his death he reported he was joined there from England by his wife Elizabeth 'beloved EP' and his minor children 'Blessing and Thank(ful)' [2]

Research Notes

This profile had been protected (PPP) to preserve Perrott over Parrott in a proposed merge. That merge was completed, so PPP was removed. The PPP notice had also noted that "it is unknown if this John has correct dates and/or is attached to the correct parents. ~ Noland-165 16:28, 12 November 2018 (UTC)"

Restored DOB estimate to 1573 which was in the original Gedcom. Such a date seems a bit early as it would make him 80 years old when he began his ministry and nearly 90 when he was awarded a captaincy in 1664. A birth date of around 1610 is more inline with the story in the biography.

This profile has been protected (PPP) to prevent it from being re-attached to incorrect parents. Should new research uncover John Perrot's real parents, they could be added after proper discussion of the evidence. Rassinot-1 14:33, 14 February 2019 (UTC)

Sources

  1. Spriggs MSS 1/18 (Friends Library) 1868 record.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 "John Perrot :Early Quaker Schismatic" by K.L. Carroll Journal of the Friends' Historical Society supplement to vol 33 (1971) 126 pages (https://journals.sas.ac.uk/FHSS/issue/view/555/54 : accessed 24 April 2022)
  3. John Perrot Quaker
  4. Oxford Dictionary of National Biography: Perrot, John (d. 1665)
  5. Oxford Dictionary of National Biography: Perrot, John (d. 1665)
  6. "Oxford Dictionary of National Biography: Perrot, John (d. 1665)


See also

  • Netherlands, GenealogieOnline Trees Index, 1000-2015 Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.
  • Ancestry Family Tree https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/tree/42463438/family
  • Biography & Genealogy Master Index (BGMI) Ancestry.com - original data: Gale Research Company. Biography and Genealogy Master Index. Detroit, MI, USA: Gale Research Company, 2008.




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Perrat-4 and Perrot-199 do not represent the same person because: not enough info on perrat profile yet, also perrat was presumably born in 1690, perrot in 1620, naming of child is disimilar in essence "blessing" versus a christian boring name. similarity in wives first names is not enough to merge away. More research, sources and so forth required.
posted by Tanya Lowry
The comments below were moved from my own profile to this one because they relate to this individual.

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On 15 Feb 2019 at 06:41 GMT C. Mackinnon wrote:

Hi. Glad John Perrot has some proper children now. Profile looks good.

On 14 Feb 2019 at 14:35 GMT Isabelle Rassinot wrote:

John Perrot is now project-protected to prevent random addition of parents. Since it is project managed now, it needed the Quakers project box, so I added that.

On 13 Feb 2019 at 09:51 GMT C. Mackinnon wrote: Merge done for Quaker, John Perrot.

On 11 Feb 2019 at 15:35 GMT C. Mackinnon wrote:

Hi there. I've been looking at the merge for the Quaker John Perrot for some time now. Always avoided doing it as there is a lot of work on both and some needs to be sacrificed. Shall I just do it, or would you like to? If I do it you could look it over and change whatever you felt needed changing.

posted by Anne Rees
Hi profile managers,

It has been suggested to project-protect this profile in order to prevent incorrect parents from being attached again. To achieve this a project must be added as co-manager of the profile. I believe there is more than one project that could work, one is the Quakers project which I am suggesting here.

To add the Quakers project as co-manager see the instructions here.

Thanks for considering it.

Perrott-112 and Perrot-199 appear to represent the same person because: Perrott-112 was an amalgam of two people. They have been separated now so that this is the Quaker. Please merge. DOB on Perrott-112 is clearly all wrong. The son, Richard, is almost certainly from another family. Should he be detached?
posted by C. Mackinnon
If the birth and death locations are of no value, then why are they listed in sources? It is noted that the locations of Waterford and Jamaica are not completed, but once again, why include them in any place other than Research Notes? Thanks.
posted by Porter Fann
Perrott-112 and Perrot-199 do not represent the same person because: Dictionary of National Biography for Perrot-199 says he may be an illegitimate descendant of Sir John Perrot b 1528. I don't have access to the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography article for Sir John (b 1528) that is referenced as stating an illegitimate son John was born to Sir John about 1565, but an earlier article - https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Perrot,_John_(1527%3F-1592)_(DNB00) - does not mention him. Looking at dates, it seems unlikely that John Perrot-199 is son of Perrot-4 and, therefore, would not be a duplicate of Perrott-112.
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Parrott-1232 and Perrott-112 appear to represent the same person because: from available information, Perrott is the preferred spelling, although it is not clear if Perrott-112 is attached to the correct parents (or if either of these profiles' dates are correct... they do, however, have pretty much the same dates and apparently mostly from Ancestry).
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Perrott-112 and Perrot-199 appear to represent the same person because: Duplicate
posted by Anne Rees
The accessible sources quoted here do not support the information given. If the John Perrot in the ODNB entry (b.1565) is indeed the subject of this profile he would have been aged 106 when he expired.
posted by Anne Rees

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