Rodney Nicholas
Honor Code SignatorySigned 28 Sep 2020 | 431 contributions | 24 thank-yous | 100 connections
I am on 23andMe.com and my primary Gedmatch Kit is CD4872110.
My father is not here or in my Ancestry tree because my brother is writing a book about our Pop’s Peeps. Want to know more about my brother's book? Holler at me and I'll tell you.
On my mother’s side of the family, I'm a Black descendant of the White slave owning VA Andrews, VA Cherry, VA Godsey/Godfrey, VA Henderson, VA Lacy, VA Outlaw and VA Washington families as well as the affiliated families who married into my direct ancestral families. Many, if not all of my Black Cousins are also descendants/related to these families.
Apparently, many White slave owning men not only had children with their White wives, but they also had children with their Black female slaves. The proof of that are the DNA Matches between Blacks and Whites who have submitted their DNA to ancestry websites. How do you think they became Cousins?
I'd also like to offer a CAVEAT about DNA. If you and another Cousin have successfully documented that both of you are descendants of the same common ancestor, and both of you have taken DNA tests, but neither of you share DNA, that does not necessarily mean that one of you is "perpetrating a fraud" (that person is not an actual descendant of your family line).
Consider this. You do not share DNA because your common ancestor passed down different segments of the same chromosome to the both of you (you got the "tip" of the #2 chromosome while your Cousin got the middle of that same #2 chromosome), or your common ancestor passed down different chromosomes to the both of you (you got the #5 chromosome and your Cousin got the #18 chromosome).
To the DNA testing companies, you two appear to be unrelated because you do not share DNA. But you know you are related because both of you have successfully traced your lineage back to the same ancestor.
I hope this helps quell some of the disputes actual relatives have because they don't appear to share DNA, but their trees say they are Cousins.
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You may already be aware of this, but upon reading your bio here, I was reminded of another thing to consider regarding DNA. The further back in time to the Most Recent Common Ancestor (MRCA) between ourselves and our cousins, is that an autosomal test only reaches back just so far. Probably no more than 8 generations. A Y-DNA test (for males) goes back thousands of years. And an Mt-DNA test would trace your mothers, mother's, mother's, mother, back thousands of years. Autosomal tests the DNA we inherit from both sides, but each generation, DNA is lost.
Welcome to Wikitree! Maybe we will discover that we are cousins. Actually, I believe we all are if we go back far enough.
Jan
edited by J. (Pearson) Salsbery
DNA is lost in each generation as we do not inherit our parent's entire DNA, but only a randomized 50% from each parent. Because the number of our ancestors doubles each generation, we have ancestors who are in our paper tree, but from whom we don't inherit any DNA at all.
I also learned that just because multiples of my cousin matches claim to descend from the same ancestors, that isn't always proof of anything. Often they are just copying incorrect family trees from other people and from each other. I haven't yet figured out a solution, other than proving the assumptions with a paper trail.
Jan
Guilty As Charged... At least when I first started doing this research! But I "matured" over time.
My White DNA Matches and I descended from the "nobility" of Western Europe. Some of these ancestors were granted land by the King of England and/or they were wealthy, prominent, powerful, connected men in countries like England, France, Ireland and Scotland. Some were persecuted for their religious beliefs, but they were wealthy enough to flee Europe. They came to the new world and acquired hundreds, even thousands of acres of land. Consequently, some, if not most of these families are well documented in books and in publications like Historic Southern Families. For example, generations of my Outlaw family are well documented in Historical Southern Families, Vol XVI, Outlaw Family of Virginia.
So, for the White men who "colonized" America and had children by their White wives and by their Black female slaves, their "paper trail" is found in books, journals and research papers produced by universities, heritage societies and the like.
https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/636789/clean-up-of-susannah-of-the-pamunkey-tribe
https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/631226/weroance-totopotomoi-tottopottomoy-powhatan-formerly-pamunkey
https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/644260/continued-cleanup-of-totopotamoi-profile
RE: The Powhatans, I had found this Find A Grave memorial for Susannah Swann (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/42781853/susannah-swann) when I first traced my ancestry from my 3rd Great Grandmother Phoebe Overton to the Carrs to the Cornelius Dabney's marriage to Susannah. I was not sure why Susannah's last name was Swann, when the Find A Grave memorial has her parents as Toby West and Cockacoeske.
Based on the articles you've referenced, it looks like that Find A Grave memorial also has incorrect information about Susannah and Cockacoeske.
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