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Joan (Munchensy) de Valence (abt. 1232 - abt. 1307)

Joan "Countess of Pembroke" de Valence formerly Munchensy aka de Munchensy
Born about in Englandmap [uncertain]
Ancestors ancestors
Sister of , [half] and [half]
Wife of — married before 13 Aug 1247 [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died about at about age 75 in Englandmap
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Biography

Joan (Munchensy) de Valence, 'Countess of Pembroke'

Joan was a daughter of Warin Munchensy and Joan Marshal.[1][2][3][4][5][6]

Her year of birth is unknown and is estimated as c 1232. Her mother had died by 1234.[2] Her place of birth is also unknown, somewhere in England is most likely.

Marriage and Children

Joan married before 13 Aug 1247, William de Valence.[1][3][4][5][7]

13 Aug 1247: "William de Valence the king’s brother and Joan his wife to have seisin of the lands which belonged to John de Muntchesny of the inheritance of Walter Marshall late Earl of Pembroke, and which after John’s death ought to descend to Joan as his sister and heir".[5][8]

Children:[3]

  • John de Valence (died January 1276/1277)[1]
  • William de Valence (Lord of Montignac and Bellac; died 1282)[1]
  • Aymer de Valence (born c 1270)[1][4]
  • Yves de Valence (died young)
  • Margaret de Valence (died young)
  • Ann or Agnes de Valence (married first Maurice FitzGerald, second Hugh de Baliol and third Jean de Avesnes)
  • Isabel de Valence (married John de Hastings)
  • Joan de Valence (married John Comyn)
  • Elizabeth de Valence (probably died young)

Her husband died in 1296.[1][3]

Lands

She eventually inherited one tenth of the Barony of Long Crendon from her mother's father, William Marshall, who had held half of it before it was divided between five daughters.[9]

Manor of Kemsing, Kent:[10] Writ of partition and livery of seisin of the lands which Eleanor, widow of William Marshal, held in dower.

Winfarthing, Norfolk:[11] William de Valence Earl of Pembrook died seized, in right of Joan his wife.

Death, Burial and Inquisition Post Mortem, 1307

She died shortly before 20 Sep 1307.[1][3] Her place of death is unknown, but Goodrich Castle, Herefordshire, is a possible location.

She was said to have been buried in remote parts 'at Gloucester'.[12] It has been postulated that she was buried at Flaxley Abbey in the Forest of Dean, Gloucestershire.[6]

Inquisition Post Mortem of Joan de Valencia, Countess of Pembroke, following a Writ of 20 Sep, 1 Edward II [1307].[13]

She held various lands including Godrich Castle, the Castle and Town of Pembroke, the manor of Sutton Valence (Kent), manor of Inteberg (Worcestershire), manor of Shrivenham (Berkshire) and the Castle and Town of Wexford, Ireland.

"Aymer (Adomarus, Adamarus, Almaricus) her son, aged 36 and more, is her next heir."

Research Notes

22 June, 3 Edward I [1275]: Eleanor countess of Leicester late the wife of William Marescal, earl of Pembroke. Writ of partition and livery of seisin of the lands which the said Eleanor held in dower of the inheritance of the said William.[10]

"Roger le Bygot, earl of Norfolk and marshal of England, one of the heirs of Walter le Marescal brother and heir of the said William"
"Roger de Mortuo Mari and Maud his wife, Eudo la Zuche and Milicent (Milisanta) his wife, John de Hastingges and Humphrey de Boun, heirs of Eva de Breuhus, a sister and heir of the said Walter"
"Agnes de Vescy, Emery de Rupe Cauardi and Maud his wife, William de Mohun, John de Mohun, Agatha de Mortuo Mari, and John de Boun, heirs of Sibyl de Ferrariis another sister and heir of the said Walter"
"William de Valencia and Joan his wife, an heir of the said Walter"

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 The Complete Peerage. Vol. X, 1945, pp 377-382 Pembroke Family Search.
  2. 2.0 2.1 The Complete Peerage. Vol. IX, 1936, pp 421-422 Munchensy Family Search.
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 The House of Valence. Archaeologia Cambrensis. Third Series, No. XXIV., 1860, pp 253-272 (see p 256, pp 269-271) Link.
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 Landon, L. The Sheriffs of Norfolk c. 1040-1163. Norfolk Archaeology, Vol. 23 (2), 1927, pp. 147-165 Link.
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 Munchensy. Medieval Lands FMG.
  6. 6.0 6.1 Mitchell, L E. Joan De Valence: The Life And Influence of a Thirteenth-century Noblewoman. 2016. The New Middles Ages, Palgrave Macmillan Link.
  7. Dugdale, W. Monasticon Anglicanum. Vol V, 1846, p 271 Internet Archive.
  8. Calendar of Documents Ireland. 1171-1251. No. 2900, p. 433 Internet Archive.
  9. Sanders, English Baronies, p. 63.
  10. 10.0 10.1 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Edward I, File 10', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 2, Edward I, ed. J E E S Sharp (London, 1906), pp. 80-91. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol2/pp80-91 [accessed 5 February 2024]. No. 138
  11. Francis Blomefield, 'Hundred of Diss: Winfarthing', in An Essay Towards A Topographical History of the County of Norfolk: Volume 1 (London, 1805), pp. 181-190. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/topographical-hist-norfolk/vol1/pp181-190 [accessed 5 February 2024].
  12. Richardson, D. C.P. Addition: Burial place of Joan de Munchensy, Countess of Pembroke. 24 July 2013. Soc. Gen. Medieval SGM. [Cited: Goodman, A W. Registrum Henrici Woodlock, Diocesis Wintoniensis A.D. 1305-1316 (Canterbury & York Soc. 44) (1941): pp 708-709].
  13. J E E S Sharp and A E Stamp, 'Inquisitions Post Mortem, Edward II, File 4', in Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 5, Edward II (London, 1908), pp. 21-28. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/inquis-post-mortem/vol5/pp21-28 [accessed 5 February 2024]. No. 56 Inquisition Post Mortem of Joan de Valencia, Countess of Pembroke.

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