John
"1st Baron Marshal of Hingham"
Marshal
aka Marshall
Born about [location unknown]
Ancestors 
Son of John Marshal
and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of
Aline (Rie) Marshal
— married
before 1201 [location unknown]
Descendants 
Died before
before about age 65
[location unknown]
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Biography
Birth and Parentage
John Marshal, first Baron Marshal of Hingham (ca. 1170–1235), was the illegitimate son of John Marshal[1][2][3][4], probably by Alice de Coleville.[1][3] His birth date is uncertain; the original Dictionary of National Biography postulates the possibility of it being in about 1170.[5]
John was brought up in his father's household[3] but inherited no lands from him.[2]
Life
In 1197 John Marshal was one of the knights sent by Richard I to help the Count of Flanders and Boulogne against the French, under the command of his uncle William Marshal.[2] In 1203, he served with King John in Normandy and held the Castle of Falaise[3]: he was rewarded with lands in Normandy and with English manors of the Comte d'Evreux.[2] In 1204 he served in Ireland, and he was made Marshal of Ireland on 12 November 1207.[2][3] He took part in King John's Irish expedition of 1210.[2][3]
From 1213 he supported King John in England.[2] In 1215 he was one of the Illustrious men, King John's counsellors when he agreed to the Magna Carta.[2][6][7] In September 1215 John Marshal was one of King John's ambassadors to the Pope.[3]
John Marshal was present when King John died in 1216[2][3], and attended Henry III's coronation on 26 October 1216.[2] When his uncle William Marshal was appointed regent of the young monarch, John was a member of William's Council.[2] From then on he was involved in royal service in England, Ireland or overseas.[2] In 1217 he was made keeper of Devizes Castle.[3] Later that year he fought in the Battle of Lincoln[2][3], and he took a leading role in the naval Battle of Sandwich.[3]
Various appointments followed, including:
- November 1217 to February 1221: Chief Justice of the Forests[3]
- 1217-1218: custodian of the Earldon of Devon and of the Isle of Wight[3]
- Justiciar in Ireland[3]
- 1230: Commissioner in an assize of arms for Norfolk and Suffolkan assize of arms for Norfolk and Suffolk[3]
- 1231: interim castellan of Pembrokeshire pending the succession of his cousin Richard Marshal[3]
Marriage and Children
Before 1201 he married Aline de Rie (born in about 1173), daughter of Hubert de Rye of Hingham and Hockering, Norfolk, and Margaret[1][4], daughter of William Fitz Roscelin.[1] When her father died in 1188, Aline was joint heiress with her sister Isabel; when Isabel died in 1163, Aline inherited the other half of her father's barony.[4]
John Marshal and Aline de Rie had two sons:
- John Marshal, who died without issue in 1242[2][4]
- William Marshal, who died in 1265[4][8]
Burke's Peerage ascribes them a daughter:
- Alice Marshal, wife of William de Carew[9]
Death
John died before 27 June 1235, when his son John did homage for his lands.[2] His widow died in 1266 or 1267.[2][4]
Research Notes
Parentage
The original Dictionary of National Biography suggests that John was probably the son of Anselm Marshal.[5] Subsequent research has established that he was the illegitimate son of Anselm's brother John Marshal by Alice de Coleville. See the sources given in the Birth and Parentage section above. The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography cites one of his charters to Walsingham Priory as evidence that John Marshal was his father.[3]
Previously shown Daughter Sibyl
WikiTree has previously shown Sibyl Marshal as a daughter of John and his wife Aline de Rie. No good source has been found for this, and if, as Douglas Richardson states[10], her father was said to be a John Marshal of Lenton, Nottinghamshire or Linton, Kent, that points to his being a different John Marshal.
Daughter Alice
27 December 1230 John Marshal has made fine with the king by 200 marks for having custody of the lands and heirs of Nicholas of Carew until the heirs come of age, with the marriage of the same heirs. Order to the sheriff of Berkshire that, having accepted security from John for the aforesaid 200 marks, he is to cause him to have full seisin of all lands formerly of Nicholas in his bailiwick with their appurtenances, of which he was seised on the day he died.[11]
24 Mar 1270/71 : A writ of certiorari after the death of Aline la Mareschale, enquired whether the deceased enfeoffed Alice de Carhou her daughter deceased of the manor of Aselakelby for life only or otherwise.[12]
- Aline Marshal. Writ of certiorari whether the said Aline enfeoffed Alice de Carrou her daughter, deceased, of the manor of Aselokby in Lincolnshire, for life only or otherwise. 24 March 55HIII. The said Aline enfeoffed Alice de Carrou of the manor of Aselokeby for life, and after her death it ought to revert to the heirs of the said Aline.[13]
Sources
- ↑ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Salt Lake City: the author, 2013, Vol. III, page 284
- ↑ 2.00 2.01 2.02 2.03 2.04 2.05 2.06 2.07 2.08 2.09 2.10 2.11 2.12 2.13 2.14 2.15 G E Cokayne. Complete Peerage, revised edition, Vol.VIII, St Catherine Press 1932, p. 525 footnote b
- ↑ 3.00 3.01 3.02 3.03 3.04 3.05 3.06 3.07 3.08 3.09 3.10 3.11 3.12 3.13 3.14 3.15 3.16 Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, entry for 'Marshal, Sir John (d. 1235)', front and online 2004, available online via some libraries
- ↑ 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.5 I P Sanders. English Baronies. A Study of their Origin and Descent 1086-1327, Clarendon Press, Oxford, 1960, pp. 53-54 main text and p. 53, footnote 8
- ↑ 5.0 5.1 Dictionary of National Biography, Smith, Elder and Co, 1885-1900, entry for 'Marshal, John (1170?-1235)', Wikisource
- ↑ Preface to the Magna Carta (The Magna Carta Project website)
- ↑ Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City: the author, 2011, p. 8. See also WikiTree's source page for ‘’Magna Carta Ancestry.’’
- ↑ G E Cokayne, Complete Peerage, Vol. VIII, p. 527
- ↑ ThePeerage.com
- ↑ Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 497, SAY 2, Google Books
- ↑ Henry III Fine Rolls Project, 15 HENRY III (28 October 1230–27 October 1231)No 77 27 Dec
- ↑ Buist-Taylor-Keatch-Kendall family history website Alice Marshal
- ↑ Calendar of inquisitions post mortem and other analogous documents preserved in the Public Record Office by Great Britain. Public Record Office; Kirby, J. L. (John Lavan); White, Andrew Dickson, 1832-1918. fmo Publication date 1904 Page 245
- Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Salt Lake City: the author, 2013, Vol. III, page 284. See also WikiTree's source page for ‘’Royal Ancestry’’.
- Dictionary of National Biography, Smith, Elder and Co, 1885-1900, entry for 'Marshal, John (1170?-1235)', Wikisource
- Cokayne, G E. Complete Peerage, revised edition, Vol.VIII, St Catherine Press 1932, p. 525
- Histoire de Guillaume le Marechal, ll. 337–8 and 4037–8
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[LOTN] 11 November 1203 – Grant to John Marshal, nephew of William I Marshal, earl of Pembroke, of the manors of Cantley and Caistor-on-Sea, late of Hugh de Gournay, traitor; and all the land of Hugh de Agee in Norfolk, to hold of him and his heirs of us and our heirs by the service of one fee.
[BOF, page 15] 1204-1212. Hertford - Johannes Marescallus tenet iij. carucatas terre in Barewurthe per servicium j. militis.
[LOTN] 19 May 1216 – Order to John Marshall, sheriff of Somerset and Dorset, to deliver to William Brewer all of the land late of Ralph de Secqueville in your bailiwick, which we previously granted to him.
[LOTN] 12 September 1216 – Order to the sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk to deliver, without delay, to John Marshal full seisin of the lands late of Hugh de Gournay in Norfolk and Suffolk, according to the royal charter that the king made John. The king wishes that John hold these lands until peace be restored between the king and his barons, when the question will be decided by judgement of the royal court.
[CFR HIII] 14 May 1226 Westminster. To the sheriff of Northamptonshire. The king has given respite to John Marshal from rendering his account at the Exchequer for the demands he makes from him by summons of the Exchequer, until 15 days from St. John the Baptist in the tenth year. Order to cause his livestock taken for this reason to be delivered to him in the meantime. It is written in the same manner to the sheriff of Northamptonshire.
[CFR HIII] 18 July. Croxton. Concerning land to be taken into the king’s hand. Order to the sheriff of Hertfordshire to take into the king’s hand all the land that John Marshal held by bail of the king in Little Berkhamsted, and to cause the corn and hay of the same land to be collected and kept safely to the king’s use, with the aforesaid land, until the king orders otherwise, saving to John his own oxen and his other chattels that he has in the aforesaid land.
[CFR HIII] 8 November 1229 Westminster. For John Marshal, concerning a debt he owes the king. The king, for his good and faithful service, has pardoned John Marshal 200 marks, two palfreys and two tuns of wine of the £764 19s. 6d., two palfreys and two tuns of wine that he owed him, and has granted him that he may render 50 marks per annum of the rest of the aforesaid debt, until he will pay that debt in full. Order to the barons of the Exchequer to cause this to be done and enrolled thus.
[CFR HIII] 2 April 1230 Lambeth. The king has granted to John Marshal that the £100 he owes to Hamo of Hereford, Jew , by his charter, the £160 he owes to Mosse, son of Isaac the Jew, by his charter, the £73 and one mark he owes to Josceus Priest, the £32 10s. he owes to Aaron Blund, by his charter, and the £24 7s. he owes to Benedict Crispin, by his charter, are to be allowed to Hamo, Mosse, Joceus, Aaron and Benedict in the debt they owe the king, so that John is to render £100 of the aforesaid debt to the king at the Exchequer at three terms, until the aforesaid debt is paid. Order to the barons of the Exchequer to cause the aforesaid debt to be allowed to the same Jews, to cause John to have the aforesaid terms, and to cause this to be enrolled thus.
[CFR HIII] 27 December 1230 John Marshal has made fine with the king by 200 marks for having custody of the lands and heirs of Nicholas of Carew until the heirs come of age, with the marriage of the same heirs. Order to the sheriff of Berkshire that, having accepted security from John for the aforesaid 200 marks, he is to cause him to have full seisin of all lands formerly of Nicholas in his bailiwick with their appurtenances, of which he was seised on the day he died.
[CFR HIII] May 1231. Gloucester. John Marshal has shown to the king that, by reason of the death of W. Marshal, earl of Pembroke, the sheriff of Northamptonshire took into the king’s hand John’s land in Norton, formerly of the same Earl Marshal, which the earl gave to John long before his death by his charter. Order to the same sheriff to cause John to have full seisin of the aforesaid land of Norton without delay. If he has taken anything, he is to cause it to be rendered to him without delay. For John Marshal. It is written in the same manner to the sheriff of Norfolk for the same John, concerning land in Foulsham.
[CFR HIII] 2 August 1231 Painscastle. Order to the sheriff of Norfolk to place in respite the demand he makes by summons of the Exchequer from John Marshal, who is in the king’s service in the parts of Wales, until Michaelmas in the fifteenth year. It is written in the same manner to the sheriffs of Northamptonshire and Berkshire .
[CFR HIII] 28 September 1231. Hereford. Order to the barons of the Exchequer to place in respite, until one month from Easter in the sixteenth year, the account of the executors of the testament of W. Marshal junior, formerly earl of Pembroke, for the debts that the earl owed the king, one of whose executors is John Marshal, who has set out towards the parts of Ireland to receive the dower of the countess of Pembroke there by the king’s order and to do other things for the king.
[CFR HIII] 5 June 1232 Tewkesbury. For John Marshal. The king has given respite to John Marshal, who is in the parts of Ireland by his order, from the debts for which he ought to answer at the Exchequer, until the octaves of Michaelmas in the sixteenth year. Order to the barons of the Exchequer to cause John to have that respite.
[CFR HIII] 12 October 1232 Wallingford. For John Marshal. Order to the barons of the Exchequer that if John Marshal renders £40 at this Exchequer of Michaelmas of the debt he owes the king, they are to permit him to have respite from the remainder of the aforesaid debt until the octaves of Hilary in the seventeenth year.
[CFR HIII] 30 May 1233 Worcester. For John Marshal. The king has granted to John Marshal that, of the debts he owes him, of which he ought to have rendered 60 marks per annum to the king by his grant, he may henceforth render 50 marks each year until the aforesaid debts will have been paid to the king. Order to the barons of the Exchequer to cause this to be done and enrolled thus.
[CFR HIII] 3 November 1234 Woodstock. For John Marshal. To the barons of the Exchequer. Order to place in respite the demand that they make from the king’s beloved and faithful John Marshal for all debts that are exacted from him by summons of the Exchequer until the king’s first coming into London, namely until Martinmas in the nineteenth year. They are to give command to the sheriffs by whom they caused the said debts to be summoned to permit him to have peace until that term. In the meantime, they are to certify themselves of the same debts, so that upon the king’s aforesaid coming they know how to certify the king distinctly of both the particulars and the sum of the aforesaid debts.
[CFR HIII] 20 November 1234 Westminster. To the barons of the Exchequer. The king has pardoned to his beloved and faithful John Marshal the £100 which they exact from him by summons of the Exchequer for a fine that he made with him for having custody of the land and heirs of Nicholas of Carew , with the marriage of the heirs, which custody the king afterwards caused to be rendered to his beloved and faithful Bertram de Criel , to whom he had previously granted it by the fine that he made with him. Order to cause John to be quit from the aforesaid £100.
[CFR HIII] 3 November 1234 Woodstock. For John Marshal. To the barons of the Exchequer. Order to place in respite the demand that they make from the king’s beloved and faithful John Marshal for all debts that are exacted from him by summons of the Exchequer until the king’s first coming into London, namely until Martinmas in the nineteenth year. They are to give command to the sheriffs by whom they caused the said debts to be summoned to permit him to have peace until that term. In the meantime, they are to certify themselves of the same debts, so that upon the king’s aforesaid coming they know how to certify the king distinctly of both the particulars and the sum of the aforesaid debts.
Subject to that, I have now finished the main work I intend at present on this profile. If anyone spots any typos etc, please correct them. Thank you.
Also, is there any evidence to confirm the parentage of the two daughters Sibyl and Alice ?
See also Marshal-214, where it also states that Marshal-33 is illegitimate, and his mother is only known as Alice