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John Henry Mann Sr (1784 - 1864)

John Henry Mann Sr
Born in Charlotte, Virginia, United Statesmap
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Husband of — married 1811 [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died at age 80 in Coosa, Alabama, United Statesmap
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Biography

John H Mann was born about 1784, probably in Charlotte County, VA, which is where his father grew up (originally Lunenburg County before Charlotte County was formed in 1764) and where his grandfather Francis Mann, Jr lived the last 2 decades of his life. He was the son of Millington Mann and Elizabeth Unknown. John moved with his parents and at least one younger brother (Joel A Mann) from southern Virginia to Edgefield, SC (near Augusta, GA) when he was approximately 5 years old.

After getting married, John H Mann moved to Putnam County, GA as of the 1820 census. Prior to that, he had bought land from 1812 to 1818 in nearby Greene County. The January 1818 deed for his purchase of 200 acres in Greene County stated that John Mann was a resident of Greene County when he bought this land.

Between approximately 1814-1819, Greene County was the residence of his mother, stepfather Charles Dougherty, and at least 3 brothers - David, Jesse, and William). David and Jesse met their wives in Greene County, and married them in January 1818. John's half-sister Mary Ann Dougherty also married her husband Andrew Oliver in Greene County, in 1819. Prior to the 1820 census, John's mother, stepfather, and some of the family moved roughly 50 miles north to Jackson County, GA, while John moved to Putnam County (near Greene).

After living in Putnam County for a number of years, John and Rhoda moved west to Troup County, GA, and then to Alabama. John H Mann bought land from BM Ellis and his wife Diannah Ellis in September, 1852 in Coosa County. He passed away about 1864 in Coosa County, Alabama. His youngest known brother, Henry Mann (whose wife was Isabella Drusilla Barker), had also left west central Georgia for Coosa County, Alabama about a decade before John H Mann moved there.

This brother Henry Mann was in Coosa County by the mid-1840s at the latest. John H. Mann's daughter Lucinda was married to Eldridge Barker, the younger brother of her uncle Henry Mann's wife Drusilla. Late in life, Eldridge Barker became Sheriff of Elmore County, where many descendants of both John H and Henry Mann lived for many decades thereafter.

Note: The father of John H Mann, Millington Mann, had a brother named Turner Mann, who moved to Georgia a few years after Millington moved to Edgefield, SC. They lived within 25 miles of each other, as Augusta is on the GA/SC border. Just as with Millington, Turner Mann named his eldest son John H Mann, whose grave marker states that he also was born in Charlotte County, VA, 3 years after this John H Mann, in 1787. This could also explain why John H Mann gave his son Joel the middle name "Turner". It is believed that Millington's brother Turner Mann (b. 1754 VA) was named for his grandmother Elizabeth Turner's family name.

While descendants believe that John H Mann married his wife Rhoda Ellis around 1811 in Putnam County, GA, it is also possible that they married in nearby Greene County, where John's mother and stepfather settled between 1811 and 1815. But, it is also possible that they married in SC (IF Rhoda Ellis was in SC at some point in time) and then moved to GA shortly thereafter. The state of SC did not require county marriage licenses until many decades after this period of time, so most SC marriages lack official records. Their marriage has not been found thus far in any Georgia records, as of Jan 2023.

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Sources

  1. Unsourced family tree handed down to Kittie (Mann) Aldakkour.
  • 1812 Greene County, GA; John H Mann purchased land in Greene County. This is the first known document verifying this Mann family in Georgia, after leaving Edgefield, SC. But, since the 1810 census does not exist, it is possible that John H Mann moved to Georgia earlier. Greene is near Putnam County, where John Mann moved to prior to the 1820 census.
  • 1814 Greene County, GA: estate sale for Reuben Adams, lists John Mann as a buyer, Jesse Mann as buyer of several items. Also lists associated names Ellis, White, and Houghton among the buyers. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9QW-WWZF?view=fullText&keywords=Man&groupId=TH-1942-30785-11823-30
  • 1820 Putnam County, GA.
  • 1830 Putnam GA Census -

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9YBS-992Y?i=2&cc=1803958&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AXHGG-S4J

  • 1850 Troup GA
  • 1852 Coosa, AL; September, BM Ellis and wife Diannah sold land in Coosa to John H Mann; Coosa County, AL Deeds 1850-1853.
  • 1860 Coosa, AL
  • May 2 1864 Coosa, AL Probate Records




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