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Pierre Langlois (abt. 1720)

Pierre Langlois
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Biography

Pierre Langlois is best known for being the father of Louis Langlois born in Trois-Rivières on June 5, 1642 the baptism record of which states that Pierre Langlois is the husband of an Indian woman named Madeleine Sauvagesse Algonquin.

Ethnicity and lineage issue

Mrs. Dominique Ritchot reputes a myth that is widely circulating on the Net in the following paraphrased terms:[1]

  • This myth is propagated through self-proclaimed « Native genealogical experts », who claim that Francoise Garnier / Grenier, wife of Noel Langlois, is of Aboriginal origin.
  • This myth is based on a number of documents by Luc Lacroix et al. including especially the undated one-page letter-format document entitled « Documentation Proving Aboriginal Ancestry for the Family of Noel Langlois », that in no way gives a single credible proof of Native ancestry this New France pioneer woman, who is the foremothers of a majority of French-canadians.
  • Lacroix et al. argue that because no parents or place of birth is stated in her marriage record, this raises doubts about her ethnicity.
  • The material related to the concessions to Jean Langlois in 1733, 1745, 1758 and 1764 and the baptism of Louis Langlois in June 5, 1742[2] suggest that the baptized child, Louis Langlois was Algonquin and that Jean Langlois, if aboriginal, was likely Huron.

Mrs. Ritchot points out that no genealogical link has been proven between those two individuals and Françoise Garnier/Grenier and the documentary evidence strongly indicates that there are no links between them.[1]

Mrs. Ritchot further points out that Lacroix et al. suggest this Madeleine Sauvagesse Algonguin could be Madeleine Godbout, wife of Pierre Langlois, son of Louis Langlois and Claire-Francoise Belanger and grandson of Noel Langlois and Francoise Garnier. Problem : no family relations is stated to the above mentioned in the baptism record. Nothing is known about Pierre Langlois, except he had two other children with a Native woman named Michelle Chapona : Joseph born c. 1748, buried March 13, 1755 in Pointe-du-Lac and another Joseph, baptized June 1, 1755 in Pointe-du-Lac.[1]

One of the conclusions included in the decision rendered by the Honourable James B. Chadwick, Q.C. states that:[3]

  • "No convincing evidence has been presented that shows that Françoise Garnier/Grenier was aboriginal or Algonquin.
  • "The parents and origins of Françoise Garnier/Grenier are not known and all material related to her possible origins is speculative.
  • "While it is possible that she was aboriginal, nothing indicates she was Algonquin.
  • "The material related to the concessions to Jean Langlois in 1733, 1745, 1758 and 1764 and the baptism of Louis Langlois in 1742 suggest that the baptized child,
  • "Louis Langlois was Algonquin and that Jean Langlois, if aboriginal, was likely Huron.
  • "No genealogical link has been proven between those two individuals and Françoise Garnier/Grenier and the documentary evidence strongly indicates that there are no links between them."

Bibliographie / Bibliography

Légende / Legend
- Nos Origines - Site web, Généalogie du Québec et française d'Amérique
- PRDH - Programme de recherche en démographie historique, Université de Montréal
Bibliographie / Bibliography
- Bérubé, Robert; Bloque-Blog (August 5, 2017). Françoise Garnier: Européenne. / Françoise Garnier: European: Françoise et Noël n’ont jamais vécu sur les territoires algonquins!
- Chadwick, Q.C., the Honourable James B. (Decision, Ottawa, May 12, 2013). Dismissal of Application to Add Françoise Grenier as an Algonquin Ancestor
- Goudreault, Serge (printemps 2007) "Algonquins de Trois-Rivières : L'oral au secours de l'écrit 1600-2005", Mémoires de la Société généalogique Canadienne-française, vol. 58, no. 1, cahier 251, pp. 81-87.
- Langlois, Michel (novembre 2007). Les Langlois et leur prétendue origine amérindienne, Il est temps de remettre les pendules à l’heure!, Le Langlois. Association "Les Langlois d'Amérique"
- La Nation Autochtone du Québec - ouvrage Algonquins de Trois-Rivières : précautions !
- newfrancemetis.blogspot.ca. Métis discussions - Who is Francoise Grenier (Garnier)?
- oocities.org. "A Founding Mother of New France Francoise Garnier (1610-1665)"
- Ritchot, Dominique (10 novembre 2014). The myth of Francoise Garnier's alledged {sic} Native origins.
- Tanguay, Cyprien (1871-1890), Dictionnaire généalogique des familles canadiennes, 7 volumes. Vol. V, p. 143
- WikiTree G2G forum. Is origin of Françoise Grenier, married to Noël Langlois in 1634, aboriginal or French-born?

Notes

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 Ritchot 2014
  2. Tanguay 1871-1890, vol. V, p. 143
  3. Chadwick 2013, p.10




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I stand corrected.
posted by [Living Lambert]
I am sorry but I do not follow; what do you mean by "Which is the way this profile's children are connected!!" Louis is connected to Pierre only and the two Joseph to both Pierre & Michelle as confirmed in the records. Even Mrs. Ritchot agrees on that.
posted by [Living Calonnec]
Mme Dominique Ritchot says:

". . . the 1742 Trois-Rivieres baptism record (PRDH file no. 180711) only states that Louis, the son of Pierre Langlais and Madeleine… an Algonquin woman, was baptised. This Pierre Langlais had two other children with Michelle Chapona, an Algonquin woman. No mention of any family link between Pierre Langlais and Noel Langlois or Jean Langlais « sauvage huron »."

Which is the way this profile's children are connected!!

However Madeleine Algonquin is not shown as being also married to Pierre Langlois.

posted by [Living Lambert]

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