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Lydia (Humphrey) Ellis (1659 - 1742)

Lydia Ellis formerly Humphrey
Born in Parish of Llangelynin, Merionethshire, Walesmap
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Wife of — married 19 Aug 1685 in Haverford, Montgomery Co., Pennmap
Descendants descendants
Died at age 83 in Easttown Twp., Chester, Pennsylvaniamap
Profile last modified | Created 24 Jan 2015
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Biography

A true account of the births of the children of Samuel Humphrey of the Parish of Llangelynin in the County of Merioneth is as followeth

The first childs name is Lydia she was born the 28th day of ye ist mo. 1659.

Marriage

Written as 19th day of the Sixth month (almost certainly August - the year started in March at this time), 1685 at the house of William HOWELL in Haverford. (1)

Will

Lydia Ellis of Easttown. Widow. Being aged. November 25, 1742. December 29, 1742. B. 123. To daughter Rebecca wife of Richard George of Radnor all household goods, her daughter Lydia George being mentioned. To grandson Ellis son of said Rebecca £6 at 21 and 40 shillings each to her other sons when 21. To children of daughter Bridget wife of John David of Radnor 30 shillings each when 21. To the children of daughter Elizabeth Price deceased 10 shillings to sons and 20 shillings to daughters. To children of son Joseph 10 shillings each. To children of son Benjamin 10 shillings each. Mentions son Evan Ellis and his daughter. To nurse Susanna Skelton 2 ewes. Executor: son Benjamin Ellis. Witnesses: Susanna Skelton, Thos. Thomas, Mirick Davis.

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Research Notes

In interpreting dates in what follows, one should remember that the year started in March at this time, with March being called first month, and so on.

A true account of the births of the children of Samuel Humphrey of the Parish of Llangelynin in the County of Merioneth is as followeth

The first childs name is Lydia she was born the 28th day of ye ist mo. 1659.

The 2nd childs name is Daniel he was born the [blank] of ye 6th mo. 1660.

Two twins whose names were Benja & Joseph they were born the [blank] day of ye 5th mo. 1662.

The 5th childs name is Rebecca she was born the 7th day of 2nd mo. 1664.

The si.xth childs name is Ann she was born — day of 3d mo. 1666.

The 7th childs name is Gobeithia she was born the 7th day of ye 7th mo. 1668.

Samuel Humphrey afforsaid & Elizabeth Reese were married before two Justices of peace named Morris Wynn & Robert Owen of Dolessery on ye 20th day of april 1658.

The foresd Saml. Humphrey parted this life the 17th day of the 9th Mo. and was buried ye 19th day of ye same att Bryn-tallwyn 1677, aged -I years and 9 months.


Sources

(1) Ancestry.com. Clovercroft chronicles, 1314-1893 [database on-line]. Provo, UT: Ancestry.com Operations Inc, 2005.

Original data: Haines, Mary Rhodes.. Clovercroft chronicles, 1314-1893. Philadelphia: J.B. Lippincott, 1893?. (Chapter III, page 41,42 and 43)

Acknowledgements

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Magna Carta Project

Lydia (Humphrey) Ellis is NOT listed in Magna Carta Ancestry as a Gateway Ancestor (vol. I, pages xxiii-xxix), however most of her siblings are listed and Lydia married in America in 1685. The Humphrey Gateways are in a Richardson-documented trail to Magna Carta Surety Baron Saher de Quincy (vol. III, pages 279-281 OWEN) that has not yet been developed on WikiTree. The profiles in these trails are set out in the Magna Carta Trails section of Benjamin Humphrey's profile.
  • Needs Development: This profile was just added as a Gateway Ancestor and needs development against the project's checklist to bring it up to current project standards. Thiessen-117 15:39, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
See Base Camp for more information about identified Magna Carta trails and their status. See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as a "badged trail".




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Dear Project Team, is their doubt that Lydia is the biological daughter of Samuel Humphrey and Elizabeth Rees? Can those two buttons on Lydia's profile for her parents be checked? The first parish records available online so far from Llangelynnin are 1754.

The profile gives Lydia's birthday 28 Mar 1659. The research notes provide birthdate 28 January 1659. Both dates are apparently based on the Chronicles-sourced marriage date of Lydia's parents and next child Daniel after Lydia. But Lydia's birthdates should be consistent.

The Clovercroft Chronicles (page 41) gives marriage details for Ellis Ellis and Lydia, "He [Ellis] married Lydia Humphrey, eldest child of Samuel and Elizabeth Humphrey, the 19th day of the Sixth month, 1685, at the house of William Howell, in Haverford." So, June 19, 1685 rather than August in the profile. The text in the bio gives June 19, 1685.

The Cloverdale Chronicles may be conveniently sourced at https://archive.org/details/clovercroftchron00hain/page/40/mode/2up

Thank you all for working in Wikitree!

posted by Clare Bromley III
Thanks Clare. This profile is on the long list of profiles needing attention from the Magna Carta Project, and is not on our immediate agenda. So facts have not been checked by the Project. I am afraid I cannot say when the Project will turn to the profile. If anyone wants to improve the profile in the meantime, or add to research notes, noting differences between secondary or other sources, please do. Or if the Penn Project, who are co-managers, wish to do some research, great!
posted by Michael Cayley
edited by Michael Cayley
I don't have the time to do anything with this profile either, but because this is before England and her colonies adopted the Gregorian Calendar in 1752, the year would have still started in March, and the 'first month' could have been March, not January, and the sixth month, August not June. Sometimes only looking at the original records can determine which month and year is meant.

There is a good explanation of this and the problems it can cause in this Guide from the Connecticut State Library https://libguides.ctstatelibrary.org/hg/colonialresearch/calendar

posted by John Atkinson
Thanks, John. I should have thought of that - I am only too familiar with this dating issue - and the frequency with which dates like 1st month are misinterpreted in books and on the web - from what I do for the Quakers Project.

6th month, if that is what is in the marriage record, will almost certainly be August not June. I have added slightly to the bio.

posted by Michael Cayley
edited by Michael Cayley
Hi Joanne! Fancy meeting you here :D

SJ added the project box for the Penn Project in June, which is causing a database error since the project is not also a manager. I'll add the project rather than remove the project box, but that's an option (WikiTree guidelines say that if a project box is displayed, then the corresponding project needs to be a manager of the profile). Either way, you most certainly can stay as a profile manager.

Cheers, Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Is there a URL link to this source?
posted by SJ Baty
I am not sure. This was added to my tree by Kyndahl Johnson. I have no records for Lydia. The information I post, I make sure I have records for but cannot vouch for anything someone else posts. It was a FamilyTree_2015-01-17.ged file.
It looks like that between the comments and related profiles that there were enough sources, just needed to be annotated.
posted by SJ Baty
In my sister-in-law's tree, I have:

LYDIA HUMPHREY

1659–1742

Birth 1659 • Merionethshire, Wales

Death 1742

posted by Jimmy M. Sisson

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