John (Hay) Hay Fourth Lord Hay of Yester
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John (Hay) Hay Fourth Lord Hay of Yester (aft. 1510 - 1557)

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Husband of — married before 18 Oct 1533 [location unknown]
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Died before age 47 [location unknown]
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John (Hay) Hay Fourth Lord Hay of Yester was a member of Scottish Nobility.
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Preceded by
John Hay
4th Lord Hay of Yester
1513 - 1543
Succeeded by
William Hay

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Biography

John (Hay) Hay Fourth Lord Hay of Yester is a member of Clan Hay.
European Aristocracy
John Hay was a member of the aristocracy in Scotland.

John Hay was born the son and heir of John Hay, third Lord Hay of Yester, and his first wife, Elizabeth Douglas, daughter of George, Master of Angus, and sister to Archibald (Douglas), sixth Earl of Angus.[1] He was born c. 1510.

  • He was of age in 1533, likely just, when he had a charter under the Great Seal to John Hay, son and heir-apparent of John, Lord Hay of Yester, and to Margaret Livingston, his wife, of the lands of Lyne and Wester Hoprew, co. Peebles, following a resignation by his father, 18 October 1533.

In 1543 he succeeded to the title as Lord Hay of Yester.[2]

Either he or his father made jointly with the Bailies, Council, and community of Peebles a grant of a collegiate church in the parish church of St. Andrew, in Peebles, which was confirmed by Queen Mary 8 June 1543. He was witness to an instrument at Glasgow 5 April 1544. Lisle reports to Suffolk, 7 February 1543 that Lord Yester is of the Governor's party.

He was at the Battle of Ancrum Moor, 27 Feb 1545.[2]

He was present at the Council at Edinburgh relating to the disposal of the prisoners taken there, March 1545; was admitted a Privy Councillor before 25 June 1545; attended the Conventions at Stirling 26 June 1545, and at Edinburgh 18 March 1546, and sat in Parliament 30 July 1546.

He signed the treaty with France against England 26 June 1545.

On 10 Sep 1547, he was at the Battle of Pinkie Cleugh where he was captured. Lord Hay of Yester, Sheriff of Peebles, sister's son to Douglas, is mentioned as being a prisoner at Berwick 20 October 1547, and 16 November following Lord Grey of Wilton writes to the Protector Somerset that "Sir George Douglas desires his kinsman, Lord Hay of Yester", be "losened" home on sureties. Somerset, however, directed that he was to be sent to the keeping of Sir Roger Lascelles in Yorkshire, and Grey of Wilton reported that he should "immediately be sent", 17 January 1548.

His house of Yester was captured the Friday before 27 February 1548, and put in charge of Sir George Douglas with 100 horse, and was held by Captain Bagshot 15 March that year. It was apparently recaptured, as Lord Grey reports, 28 April 1548, the "House of Yester kept by Spaniards, which I have not seen, but mean to before I depart", and, 21 May, it was ordered "to be razed if not soon fortified".[2]

On the conclusion of the Peace with England, April 1560, he returned to Scotland, and was a party to the Band in favour of the Duke of Chatelherault on the latter's resigning the Regency, signed 12 April 1554.

He was Warden of the Middle Marches before 1554.

He is generally said to have died in 1557, but this is a mistake. He was elected Provost of Peebles, and presided at the Council meeting 30 September 1555, and died shortly afterwards, and certainly before 30 January 1556, when he is referred to as "umquhile Johne, Lord Hay of Yester".[2]

Family

  • He married, probably shortly before 18 October 1533, Margaret Livingston, daughter of William (Livingston), fourth Lord Livingston of Callander, who survived him, and was living 11 February 1567. They had children:
  • William Hay. Likely born c. 1535, he will succeed.
  • male, unknown, Hay. He was living 28 March 1573, when, as brother of Lord Hay of Yester, he is mentioned as a possible hostage.
  • Thomas Hay, provided to the ministry of the Cross Kirk of Peebles 30 October 1566; this he resigned in favour of his nephew, afterwards the seventh Lord, 15 January 1584, and he died before 11 June 1584.
  • Margaret Hay, married, contract 11 February 1567, to Sir Robert Lauder of Poppill. She survived him, and died before 20 February 1584, when her testament was confirmed at Edinburgh. Douglas confuses her with Margaret, daughter of the fifth Lord, who married the seventh Lord Borthwick.
  • Christian Hay, married to Henry Lauder.

He also had a daughter, mother's name unknown, Elisabeth Hay, legitimated under the Great Seal 18 August 1558.

Research Notes

Sources

  1. Paul, James Balfour. The Scots Peerage : founded on Wood's ed. of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that kingdom, Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1911, Vol. VIII, Archive.org, p. 435
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 Paul, James Balfour. The Scots Peerage : founded on Wood's ed. of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland; containing an historical and genealogical account of the nobility of that kingdom, Edinburgh: David Douglas, 1911, Vol. VIII, Archive.org, p. 436

See also:

  • Genealogy of the Hayes of Tweeddale condensed from the book of that title by Father Richard Augustus Hay, Prior of St. Pieremont, Edinburgh, 1835.




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Hay-968 and Hay of Yester-4 are not ready to be merged because: In trying to find if there were anymore duplicates, I found Hay-17 that had no other connections, and no action since being downloaded in 2010 and thought it could be used by merging these 2 profiles into it.
posted by John Atkinson
Hay-968 and Hay of Yester-5 are not ready to be merged because: I have set them as a match, however although the dates are the same. in terms of family relationships they are really father and son, and perhaps should be treated that way. Hay of Yester-5 the husband of Elizabeth Douglas and brother of William of Nether Menzion and Monktoun is really John Hay, 3rd Lord Hay of Yester.
posted by John Atkinson
Hay-968 and Hay of Yester-4 appear to represent the same person because: These seem to be the same person
posted by Debra (Downs) Allison
Hay-968 and Hay of Yester-5 appear to represent the same person because: These appear to be the same person; mother needs to be resolved.
posted by Debra (Downs) Allison

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