Frederick Gump (abt. 1740 - 1841)

Gump-155 and Gump-24 appear to represent the same person because: Despite birth dates that do not match, these are clearly the same person. While the child, Barbara, may be one of Frederick's children, there is no proof of his wife's LNAB. See the sources on Gump-24. Please merge and detach the undocumented wife from the profile.

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http://boards.ancestry.com/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=3632&p=localities.northam.usa.states.pennsylvania.counties.greene Frederick Gump (1733-1841) Change to Thread View 1 of 2 Frederick Gump (1733-1841) JimHoy46 (View posts) Posted: 3 Mar 2000 12:00PM GMT Classification: Obituary Edited: 10 Jan 2007 3:06PM GMT Surnames: Gump, Wright, Hamilton, Keller, Poffenbarger, Kenaga For THE WESTERN CITIZEN, Urbana, Ohio Tuesday, 16 Nov 1841 "When those who have won for themselves a name, and who through a lifetime have enjoyed all that flattery can bestow, whether well or ill deserved; depart life, they are always sure to have some ready pen to extol their virtues, or bring to notice their shining qualities, whilst those who have lived in the humbler spheres of life; however much they may have contributed to the age in which they have lived, are too often neglected, and go down to the grave forgotten and unremembered. How often do we see praise and panegyric bestowed upon one whose life has been spent in the lap of luxury and ease, whilst the poor grey headed veteran, who has spent the prime of his days in camps, and exerted all the energies of his soul in the service of his country, departs life with no one left to do him reverence because he died poor. These reflections passed through the mind of the author, whilst standing upon the margin of the grave of Mr. FREDERICK GUMP, an old Revolutionary soldier, who died in this town on the 9th instant, in the one hundred and seventh year of his age. What a volume of incidents must connect themselves with the life of such an extraordinary man; for more than one whole century has he mixed with the scenes of this world, and in his day and generation has been an actor in the great political dramas which have resulted in the erection of new Empires. In his day the old world has undergone almost a complete revolution, and the new one has established several new and independent Republics. He has lived to see a few dependent colonies comprising a population of rising two millions declare themselves free and independent States, and sustain themselves against the gigantic power of old England through a seven years' War, and finally erect themselves into a free and independent Republic, which now comprises a population of nearly twenty millions, rivaling in Military prowess and Commercial enterprise, the most populous and powerful nations on the globe. Within the era of his life, what changes and mutations have taken place, besides the rise and fall of Empires which have succeeded each other. Within the period of his life, a Napoleon Bonaparte has sprung up into life, and like the dazzling meteor has shone with the resplendent brightness of the sun, and like his prototype has gone out forever, and darkness has closed over the scenes of his glory. Of the early life of Frederick Gump the writer is not very well informed, only that at a very early age he emigrated from Germany, in company with his father who died on his passage, leaving young Gump, unprotected and friendless, having lost his mother previously. Then on arriving in this country he was sold to pay his passage, and remained the greater part of the time for which he was sold with his new master, and then on some misunderstanding between them, he left his service and bound himself to a weaver, with whom he learned the trade. The deceased has been married twice, and had been the father of 18 children, 14 of whom are still living, and of his grandchildren and great-children, they were like the seed of the patriarch of old, "like the sand upon the sea shore." Pennsylvania appears to have been the first adopted home of Mr. Gump; and soon after the breaking out of the Revolution he enlisted himself in the dragoon service of the Pennsylvania line, and served in that capacity during the greater part of the War, and thereby, in after life, became the pensioner upon the bounty of his adopted state, and also of the General Government. The post of danger was the post of the deceased. Where the battle raged the hottest there was Frederick Gump, mounted upon his mettlesome charger, dealing havoc and death upon the enemies of his adopted country. Although small in stature he had a lion heart and an eagle eye, and often whilst the writer of this was in conversation with him, as he listened to the tales of the thrilling scenes through which he has passed; and whilst the deceased was "fighting his battles over", the martial spirit would rekindle in the bosom of the old soldier, and his eyes brighten up at the recollections of other days. Sometime during the early settlement of Kentucky, Mr. Gump emigrated to that new State, and remained there till or about the year 1807, when he came to Ohio, and has remained here ever since, with the exception of a few years which he spent in his beloved Pennsylvania, where the early associations of his life were formed. The writer of this obituary became acquainted with the deceased in this neighborhood in the year 1811, at which time, though he had lived more than his three score years and ten, he possessed all the activity and sprightliness of the noon of manhood, and during the late war (War of 1812) though so far advanced in life, he was engaged in the dangerous service of wagoning supplies for the Northwestern army, at points where younger men would hesitate to expose themselves. But such was the indomitable spirit which animated the breast of the old soldier, that wherever his country called, there he was to be found. And that spirit which animated him through two wars, appears to have taken deep hold upon the man and became even the ruling passion in death, as evidence of which, the deceased short time previous to his death, expressed to the writer a wish to be honored at his decease with a military funeral, which requisition it is unnecessary to say was promptly complied with, and the ceremonies suitably conducted by the Urbana Greys, commanded by Captain Wright, and accompanied by General Hamilton, Major Keller, Captain Poffenbarger and Captain Kenaga in full uniform as pall bearers. There has another trait in the character of the deceased, which marked the peculiarity of the man and of the soldier, and which was, that no matter how high the individual stood in his own estimation, or in the estimation of the community, if in the opinion of the old gentleman his conduct did not comport with his pretensions, he would be sure to tell him so to his face. And if at any time he received from an individual what he conceived an indignity, the offense would have to be recalled, or the offender would very likely feel the physical rebuke of the old soldier, or in other words, he would not tamely brook an insult from any quarter, high or low. Such are some of the incidents, and traits of character in the life of Frederick Gump, who now sleeps with his fathers. Peace to his ashes. signed A Citizen Urbana, November 15, 1841 Note: Frederick Gump is likely the ancestor of all Greene County Gumps.

Billie

Hi Bill, do you have sources for this Frederick Gump? My ancestor Gump-24 is a rejected match. There are many sources such as Find A Grave, that list a birth date of 1733, but I have found his Revolutionary War Pension record where he reports his birth year as 1740. See his biography at Gump-24. He had at least two wives and all his children to my knowledge were born in Chester County Pennsylvania. His second wife was Mary, who he married in Chester County in 1777. He did not leave Chester County for Greene County PA until after the war. I am trying to make sense of the dates and locations since I have never been able to determine Mary Gump's surname. Maybe there is another Frederick Gump and I am confused, but I have never found another Frederick in this time frame.

Gump-257 and Gump-24 appear to represent the same person because: Duplicates despite the different birthdates. Death date and location are the same. See my comment Gump-257 and the biography and notes for Gump-24.

I have removed Frederick Gump-257 from the parents Johann Georg Gump and Rosina Macken. Please see his own report that his mother died at sea and his father died two weeks after arriving in Philadelphia. Frederick was born, by his own report, "sometime in 1740." This information is in his application for Revolutionary War Pension. At that time he resided in Green County, PA. He transferred his pension to Champaign County OH in 1833.

https://www.fold3.com/image/22109801. See [Gump-24] Frederick is my 6th great grandfather. I will initiate a merge of these two Fredericks. Note also that the birthdate on Find a Grave is incorrect. I, too, used the 1733 DOB until I found his self reported birth date in his pension file. I suspect whoever carved the gravestone interpreted 101 as 107, thus the birth date extrapolated to 1733. I accept Frederick's verbal report.