Françoise Godé
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Françoise Godé (1626 - 1715)

Françoise "la bonne femme Desrochers" Godé aka Godet, Gaudet, Desroches
Born in Igé, Perche, Francemap
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Wife of — married 18 Nov 1647 in Montréal, Canada, Nouvelle-Francemap
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Died at age 88 in Pointe-aux-Trembles de Montréal, Canada, Nouvelle-Francemap
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Françoise Godé lived in Canada, New France, now Québec, Canada.
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Françoise Godé migrated from France to New France.
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Françoise Godé a vécu
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Françoise GODÉ dite la bonne femme Desroches [Carpin #77][1][2]

The second or third child of Nicolas Godé and Françoise Gadois,[3] Françoise Godé was born and baptized in France on August 30, 1626 at Igé's Saint-Martin parish located in France's Séez diocese and ancient Perche province.[4][5][6][7][8][9][10][11][12] According to PREFEN, her sister Mathurine was born about fourteen years (?) later.

In 1641, she emigrated to New France with her parents and with three siblings (François, Nicolas and Mathurine).[7][13][14][15] The children were the first to make the voyage to settle at Fort Ville-Marie.[16][17][18] Having wintered at Québec, the Godé family travelled together with Paul de Chomedey, Sieur de Maisonneuve for the 1642 founding of the settlement of Ville-Marie and the Godé family became the first family with teenagers to take residence there.[19] The Godé family joined the family of Françoise Godé's uncle and aunt, Pierre Gadois and Louise Mauger, and their children, Roberte Gadois and Pierre Gadois. who had emigrated to New France in 1636, establishing themselves more definitively at Montréal in 1648.[7]

At the age of about 14, Françoise married the Bourguignon Jean Desroches, born about 1618, a native of Lucy-le-Bois located in Autun diocese, on November 18, 1647 at Montréal's Notre-Dame church.[20][7] [21][22] This was the first recorded wedding celebrated in Ville-Marie.[23]

Françoise was buried on March 9, 1715, at age 82, in Saint-Enfant-Jésus de la Pointe-aux-Trembles parish, being given (evidently in error) the approximate age of 100 on the funeral record.[4][7][24][25]

Françoise had 163 descendants in 1729..[10]

Recensements / Censuses

Familles de / families of - Françoise Godé
Énumérations pour / enumerations for - Montréal
Années de Recencements / Census Years - 1666, 1667, 1681
1666 - Jean Desroches, 45, habitant ; Françoise Gaudé, 30, sa femme ; Jean, 16 ; Nicolas, 13 ; Paul, 12; Francoise, 8 ; Jacques, 6 ; Jean, 2 ; Barthélemy Lemaistre, 30, boulanger, domestique engagé.[26]
1667 - Jean Desroches, 42 ; Françoise Godé, sa femme, 30 ; Jean, 17 ; Nicolas, 15 ; Paul, 13 ; Francoise, 9 ; Jacques, 7 ; Jean, 4 ; Marguerite, 1 ; Jean Tennes, domestique, 45 ; 6 bestiaux, 30 arpents en valeur.[26]
1681 - Françoise Godé (Gadois, veuve de Nicolas Godé) 95 ; Jean DesRocher 66 ; Françoise Godé 50 ; enfants : Nicolas 28, Paul 24, Jean et Marguerite (Jumeaux) 16, Jeanne 13, Agathe 12, Pierre 9, Etienne 3 ; 2 fusils ; 11 ; 25 arpents en valeur. [27]

Translations:
En valeur : under cultivation; Habitant: inhabitant; Veuve: widow; Boulanger: baker; Enfants: children; Bêtes à cornes: horned livestock; Bestiaux: livestock; Femme: Wife; Jumeaux: twins; Fusil: gun; Domestique: servant; 1 arpent = 0.846 acres; Domestique engagé: contracted servant

Enfants / Children

Avec / with Jean Desroches:[28][29][30][31]

  1. Anonyme, b 11th & lay bapt. 12 Jan 1649; buried 12 Jan 1649 Montréal (ND) @ 1 day
  2. +Jean b & bapt 11 Dec 1649 Montréal (ND); married 14 April 1687 in Pointe-aux-Trembles de Montréal with Marie Beauchamp
  3. +Nicolas, b & bapt. 7 Oct 1652 Montréal (ND); married 21 April 1687 Pointe-aux-Trembles de Montréal with Anne Archambault; remarried on 22 Nov 1688 Pointe-aux-Trembles de Montréal with Jeanne Perthuis
  4. +Paul, b 31 Dec 1654 bapt. 1 Jan 1655 Montréal (ND); married 22 Nov 1683 Montréal (ND) with Suzanne Leduc
  5. Françoise, bapt. 24 Nov 1657 Montréal (ND); buried 10 Nov 1672 Montréal (ND)
  6. Jacques, bapt 31 Mar 1660 Montréal (ND); died 25 Nov 1680 buried 26th Pointe-aux-Trembles de Montréal
  7. Suzanne, bapt. 5 Oct 1662; buried 6 Oct 1662 Montréal (ND) @ 15 days
  8. +Jean, bapt 11 Oct 1663 Montréal (ND); married 15 Jul 1686 Boucherville with Anne Picard
  9. +Marguerite, bapt. 30 Apr 1666 Montréal (ND); married 22 Nov 1683 Montréal (ND) with Jean Leduc
  10. +Jeanne, bapt. 4 Nov 1668 Montréal (ND); married 27 Nov 1690 Pointe-aux-Trembles de Montréal with Séraphin Lauzon
  11. +Agathe, bapt. 16 Jan 1671 Montréal (ND); married 3 Sept 1691 Montréal (ND) with Charles Leduc
  12. +Pierre, bapt. 15 May 1673 Montréal (ND); married 24 Nov 1698 Pointe-aux-Trembles de Montréal with Marie Baudry
  13. Étienne, born 15 Aug 1678 bapt. 16th Pointe-aux-Trembles de Montréal; buried 4 Feb 1683 Pointe-aux-Trembles de Montréal @ 5 years

À noter que 3 de leurs enfants épouseront des enfants de Jean Leduc et Marie Soulinier // It is notable the 3 of their children will marry children of Jean Leduc and Marie Soulinier.

Sources

  1. ↑ Carpin 1999, Annexe D, p. 573
  2. ↑ Numéroté #77 dans la liste de Carpin et dans la liste qu'on peut voir à la page Percheron Immigration Category, quoique toutefois Carpin assigne Nicolas & François pour #77 & #78.
  3. ↑ The first-name convention at baptisms in 17th century in Perche and Nouvelle France was usually for girls to adopt the godmother's first name and for boys to adopt the godfather's first name.
  4. ↑ 4.0 4.1 Fichier Origine 241819 Françoise Godé 2015 Fédération québécoise des sociétés de généalogie//Québec Federation of Genealogical Societies
  5. ↑ Fichier Origine 241819, Acte de baptême, 30 août 1626
  6. ↑ Archives départementales de l'Orne, Igé, E dépôt 492/6 Baptêmes 1626-8 mars 1635, 23 mars 1636-25 janv. 1668, pg 4/160 (en bas à droite / bottom right)
  7. ↑ 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 [www.unicaen.fr/mrsh/prefen/fichePion.php?id=21724&theme=origine PREFEN Fiche 21724, Origines] Note: Prefen is no longer accessible online
  8. ↑ PRDH: Research Programme in Historical Demography (membership): Individu: 22894 Françoise Godé : n/b ~1633
  9. ↑ perche-quebec.com: baptisée le 30 août 1626
  10. ↑ 10.0 10.1 La Mémoire du Québec, Françoise Godé n/b 1633, d 1715
  11. ↑ Tanguay, vol. 1, p. 273: b 1635
  12. ↑ Carpin 1999, p. 573 n/b 1636
  13. ↑ Carpin 1999, Annexe D, p. 573: Selon Carpin, l'année du départ est assurée.
  14. ↑ Lesperance 2002 citing Jetté 1983, p. 508: "GODE, Nicolas (Master carpenter) with wife Francoise GADOIS & children Francois, Nicolas, Francoise & Mathurin departed Igé 1641-2."
  15. ↑ www.migrations.fr, Les Filles à marier: « Françoise Godé est arrivée avec ses parents et ses 3 frères et soeurs, François, Nicolas et Mathurine. Ils sont arrivés en 1642 avec Jeanne Mance et Maisonneuve. Ils font partie des fondateurs de Montréal. »
  16. ↑ According to L'Odyssée d'une société historique Morin, Victor (1943), Les Cahiers des Dix. vol. 8, Société des Dix (via Érudit) p. 41 in relation to the list of pioneers on the North face shown on the Obelisk in old Montréal's Place d'Youville commemorating the 1642 founding of Montreal, on which plaque the name of François is not listed: « Dans la nomenclature des Colons de Montréal, dressée par l'archiviste E.-Z. Massicotte avec le concours de J.C.O. Bertrand et O.-M. Lapalice et publiée dans les procès-verbaux et compte-rendus de la Société Royale du Canada en 1913, on trouve en plus le nom de François Godé, un autre fils de Nicolas, qui épousa Françoise Bugon en 1649. Il semble impossible de reconstituer aujourdhui la liste des 53 colons, hommes, femmes et enfants, qui furent les fondateurs de Montréal. »
  17. ↑ Carpin 1999, p. 573
  18. ↑ Wikipedia.org: Fort Ville-Marie
  19. ↑ Wikipedia: The Pioneers Monument Obelisk A Plaque on the monument lists the Godé parents and three of the four children living with them.
  20. ↑ PRDH: Research Programme in Historical Demography (free): Pionnier: 22893 Jean Desroches
  21. ↑ IGD, Institut Généalogique Drouin, Actes BMS, Mariage, Acte 47183
  22. ↑ www.migrations.fr, Les Filles à marier: « 10 avril 1655 : Reconnaissance de Jean Desroches de la somme de cinq cens livres au profit de Françoise Godé, sa femme. I:31, Notaire: Jean de Saint-Père »
  23. ↑ marguerite-bourgeoys.com, Tell me the story . . . of Ville Marie: "This was the first wedding celebrated in Ville-Marie."
  24. ↑ IGD, Généalogie Québec, Actes BMS, Sépulture / Funeral, Acte 12024
  25. ↑ www.migrations.fr, Les Filles à marier: « 24 avril, 1706 Testament de Françoise Godé, veuve de Jean Desroches. VI:169, Notaire: Antoine Adhémar
  26. ↑ 26.0 26.1 Wikisource: Recensements 1666-1667 Censuses selon Benjamin Sulte Histoire des Canadiens-français, Tome 4, chap. 4
  27. ↑ Wikisource Recensement 1681 Census selon Benjamin Sulte Histoire des Canadiens-français, Tome 5, chap. 4
  28. ↑ PRDH: Research Programme in Historical Demography (membership): famille: 551
  29. ↑ www.migrations.fr, Les Filles à marier
  30. ↑ Dictionnaire généalogique des familles du Québec des origines à 1730, René Jetté, avec la collaboration du PRDH, 1983, Presses de l'Université de Montréal, pg 347 (Desroches) (membership IGD)
  31. ↑ Quebec, Vital and Church Records (Drouin Collection), 1621-1997 - Drouin IGD




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Françoise Godé: Burial
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Françoise Godé: Baptism record (crossed out!)
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Klock-93 Jay Klock
This being a 1600's record and a Protected Project, could someone give this record a little attention?

In working with the Data Doctor team, there seems to be multiple errors on this record including:

Error 872: Named Inline citation error:
<ref name="genque-[http://genealogiequebec.info/testphp/info.php?no=30208 Généalogie Québec 30208"> = 99 characters.*
Recommend replacing with <ref name="genque"> and <ref name="genque" /> to repeat the reference.
Missing heading: Recommended changing Notes heading (empty) into the sources heading (this heading is missing)
There are assorted link errors also; however, they may work within the country of origin, they have updated to the https (secure format), the site reference may have changed the link, or the site no longer exists.

- Fun fact: If you didn't know, at the top right side of this record you will see the recordID for WikiTree. Hover your cursor or mouse over the ID and the menu drops down. Pick the last item on the list: Suggestions. A report opens showing you the errors and suggestions for updating this record and the family records around this person. Delete this comment after completing maintenance on this record.

  • Note about this 872 citation error, adjusted length - Advance Reference tags should be no longer than 80 chars total length. (66 chars between quotes)). Actually, I find abbreviations easier to repeat within a record like: BIR, MARR, MARR1, MARR2, DEA, SSDI, FG, etc.
posted by Jay Klock
edited by Jay Klock
Liard-1 Danielle Liard
thanks Jay, another one that needs some major work, the citation you name isn't even among the reliable sources for this era. will fix her up.
posted by Danielle Liard
Liard-1 Danielle Liard
indeed, she arrived with her parents in 1642, the family are among the founders of Montréal. Am going to switch her over to Québécois project, she is not a FàM in fact.
posted by Danielle Liard
Peter Geary
From the project page:

Peter J. Gagné's Filles à marier criteria includes - Not accompanied by both parents

Françoise "emigrated to New France with her parents and the rest of the family" would seem to disqualify her as a Filles à marier.

posted by Peter Geary
[Living Lambert]
The plot thickens for what are the chances of both Françoise Godé and her mother François Gadois dying at 100 years of age. Françoise Gadois appears to have really died at 100 years of age. I would say that there is something definitely fishy (in genealogical terms) about Françoise Godé also dying at 100 years of age. That is to say, it appears more plausible that Françoise Godé was born between about 1626 and 1633 and died on March 9, 1715, which is short of 100 years by at least about 10 years.
posted by [Living Lambert]
[Living Lambert]
The Fichier Origine's stellar reputation absolutely rules out any possibility of doctoring and favors FO being given the benefit of the doubt. Doctoring no, error maybe. The marriage record reads '. . . parrochia Igé prope Bellezimam . . .', where 'prope' means 'close' and 'Bellezimam' is then and now Bellême. All to say that POB is definitely Igé, which likely rules out both Bellême and Saint-Martin-du-Vieux-Bellême.

Somehow, Fichier Origine obtained a copy of baptism record which is not crossed out. And I am going to try to find out how Fichier Origine obtained the copy and why two copies of same baptism record are now crossed out.

posted by [Living Lambert]
Givogue-4 Denis Givogue
The two copies of Françoise Godé birth/baptism are exactly the same except the one from Ficher Origine has been doctored; low resolution and a date added on the top left, to remove the original document from the Archive of Orme and Ficher Origine would be acceptable to me. Originally when I did the research for Françoise Godé, the marriage contract was written in Latin and the place of her origin was Igé parish of (in Latin) Bellezimam which is today Saint-Martin-du-Vieux-Bellême, Orne, France. Since her DOD is 1715 at the age of 100 or so, in researching for this approximate date, I came a crossed Oct.2, 1619 that would be more appropriate DOB. . Image 79 http://archives.orne.fr/consultez/consultez2.html, Document 3NUMECRP426/EDPT89_23 BMS 1599-mars 1631, BMS 28...(1599-1681) but the spelling is not exactly the same as her DOM and don’t forget Françoise could not read or write, more research is needed with this individual.
posted by Denis Givogue
[Living Lambert]
Refer to the two different baptism record image uploads.

All,

Pardon me, Denis. I will Not after all be deleting the baptism record image uploaded by Denis Givogue, which is actually the same as Fichier Origine 241819 baptism record except former is crossed out whereas latter is not. In both cases, I can clearly discern baptism record in such terms as 'fille de Nicolas Godé'. In fact the former baptism record can be found in two locations in the Orne archive microfilm, both of which are crossed out.

The question is: Why is one record crossed out, the other not crossed out?

This is an excellent reason for Fichier Origine.

posted by [Living Lambert]
Blanchard-1459 George Blanchard
History tells us brother François was the firstborn and Françoise the third child. It is peculiar to me that Françoise's profile date of birth is now saying she was born in 1615, making her 6 years older than brother François. A birth date of 1633, the date previously given on her profile, would be in accordance with other historical aspects of this girls life, in particular, her age at arrival at Fort Ville-Marie and age at marriage.

Is this Françoise Godé the child of Nicolas Godé and Françoise Gadois, or not? Or have past historians made serious errors? Or have I erred?

posted by George Blanchard
Blanchard-1459 George Blanchard
Godé-31 and Godé-11 appear to represent the same person because: Same person!
posted by George Blanchard
Givogue-4 Denis Givogue
Godin-99 and Gode-5 appear to represent the same person because: same person
posted by Denis Givogue

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