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Edmund Frost (abt. 1609 - 1672)

Edmund Frost
Born about in Englandmap [uncertain]
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 16 Apr 1634 (to about 1650) in Earls Colne, Essex, Englandmap
Husband of — married before 5 Dec 1665 (to 12 Jul 1672) in Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusettsmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 63 in Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts Bay Colonymap
Profile last modified | Created 27 Mar 2011
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The Puritan Great Migration.
Edmund Frost migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See The Great Migration (Series 2), by R. C. Anderson, vol. 2, p. 593)
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Biography

His birth and parentage, are unknown or unproven. Please do not attach parents or edit his birth data without prior discussion in profile comments or on G2G.

Parish registers for Earls Colne begin in 1558 and no baptism was recorded there for Edmund Frost (or similar). Marriages often occurred in the parish where the bride resided (rather than the groom).

Edmund Frost was born, almost surely England, about 1609 (age at marriage).[1] He died 12 July 1672 in Cambridge, Middlesex, Massachusetts.[2][3]

Edmund married (1) in Earls Colne, Essex, England, 16 April 1634, Thomasine Clench.[4][5] She was born, surely England, about 1613 (age at married), presumed the child "Tomazin" baptized at St. Peter, Colchester, Essex, England, 1 August 1613, daughter of "John Clinche."[6] Her father is presumed one and the same John Clench whose wife was Mary Marshall. Thomasine's birth and parentage have been the subject of recent literature, see Research Notes.. Thomasine died before 15 December 1665 (husband married again).

Edmund married (2), by 15 December 1665, Reanna[7] (______) (James) (Andrews) Daniel, the widow of Edmund James, William Andrews and Robert Daniel.[8][9] She died by 3 January 1675 when inventory of the estate of "Mrs. Reana Frost deceased" was taken.[10]

Immigration

Robert Charles Anderson, et al. placed his immigration at 1635 to Cambridge, Massachusetts Bay Colony, from Earls Colone, Essex (he married there, 1634).[11] He may have come over with Thomas Shepard, who first attempted a crossing in the Great Hope, which floundered off Yarmouth [England]; then completing the passage on the Defence 10 Aug 1635 landing at Boston 2 October. The author accounts for the lack of his being listed among the passengers by claiming Edmund and his family travelled under an assumed name.[12]

At New England

He resided Cambridge, Massachusetts Bay Colony by 1635.[13]

  • Made a freeman in Cambridge 3 Mar 1636.
  • One of the original members of the First Congregational Church of Cambridge and was installed as Elder 11 February 1636.
  • He was a deacon.

Edmund's original lands were on the West side of Dunster St. between Harvard Square and Mt. Auburn St.[14] He sold them and bought a house on the west side of Garden St, which he sold in 1646.

He was admitted freeman on March 3, 1636 and the same year became one of the original members and ruling elders of the First Congregational Church of Cambridge.[15]

He became on of the first members of the governing body of Harvard, which was established in 1636.[citation needed] In his diary, Col. William Goffe spoke of visiting Edmund and described him as a saint in his poor cottage.[16]

Will

His will was signed with his written signature and named his children, all but the first born in Cambridge. To his wife Reana, he left the use of his land and 20 shillings a year during her lifetime, to be paid in corn or cattle by sons Ephraim and Thomas; also 20 shillings a year to be paid by son John. There were other cash bequests and the dwelling was left to Ephraim and Thomas.

Will dated 16 Apr 1672, codicil 17 April; proved 1 Oct 1672.

  • to my dear wife Reane
  • to my son John
  • my sons Samuell and Joseph
  • my son James
  • Ephraim and Thomas
  • my two daughters [one Mary, one Sarah]
  • [dau] Sarah [unmarried]
  • to Jacob French

Family

Edmund Frost and wife Thomasine Clench were the parents of nine children,[17][18]

  1. John Frost, born about 1635; married in Cambridge, 26 June 1666, Rebecca Andrews
  2. Thomas Frost, born Cambridge, March 1637, died soon.
  3. Samuel Frost, born Cambridge __ Feb 1638; married Cambridge 12 October 1663, Mary Cole
  4. Joseph Frost, born Cambridge, 13 January 1639; married Charlestown 22 May 1666, Hannah Miller, daughter of Rev. John Miller
  5. James Frost, born Cambridge, 9 April 1643; married (1), Billerica, 7 December 1664, Rebecca Hamlet, daughter of Wm Hamlet; married (2) Billerica 22 January 1666/7, Elizabeth Foster
  6. Mary Frost, born Cambridge 24 July 1645; married by the time of her father's will 1672; no further record.
  7. Ephraim Frost, born about 1651; married by 1678, Hepzibah _____.
  8. Sarah Frost, born Cambridge 1653 (mother's name given incorrectly as Mary); unmarried in 1672; no further record.
  9. Thomas Frost, born about 1655; married (1) Sudbury November 1678, Mary (Gibbs) Goodridge, daughter of Mathew Gibbs, widow of John Goodridge; married (2) Sudbury 9 July 1691, Hannah Johnson.

Research Notes

Disputed birth and parentage. Previous merging of duplicates resulted in the following parents being attached: Edward de Frost and Sarah Winthrop. There is no source for such a claim. (Have one? Please discuss it in comment.)

A 1906 Frost genealogy claims, without any discussion of evidence, that Edmund was the son of John Frost of Ipswich, Suffolk, England.[19]

That he was born on a specific date and place of specific parents is from the 1909 genealogy, which states about Edmund:

"That he was the son of John Frost of Hartest is extremely probable for the following reasons: The records at Hartest show that John Frost of that place had sons Edmund and John. There is no record of John Frost of Bury St. Edmunds having a son Edmund. John Frost of Langham and Bardwell had no son Edmund, but he did have a grandson by that name. So the sound conclusion appears to be that Edmund Frost of Cambridge (Mass.) was the son of John Frost of Hartest and possibly the brother of John Frost, who graduated from St. John's College, Cambridge, in 1635."[20]

100 years later, Charles Robert Anderson, in his Great Migration series, does not recognize the origins stated here, but simply states he was from Earls Colne.

Some also claim he was a descendent of the Plantaganet King with the title of "Sir".[citation needed]

Unproven Birth. Robert Charles Anderson sayslikely from Earls Colne, Essex, England, but otherwise names no specific birth date, place or parents for Edmund Frost.[21] A prior version of the profile included, "Date: 28 AUG 1593. This has not been proven.; Place: Hartest, Suffolk, England[22]

Title. He was referred to with the title "Elder."[23][24]

Thomasine Clench. In 1999, she was believed to have been the Thomasine Clench baptized Bottisham, Cambridgeshire, 6 October 1608, the daughter of Robert Clench and Joan Webbe.[25] However, a subsequent, 2021 article refutes this, based largely on her likely age at marriage,[26] makes a stronger case for Thomasine being baptized in Colchester on August 1, 1613, daughter of John Clench and Mary (Marshall) Clench.

Sources

  1. Robert Charles Anderson, George F. Sanborn, Jr., and Melinde Lutz Sanborn Anderson, The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume II, C-F (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001), 593-597 (Edmond Frost) at 596; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
  2. Frost (1906), p 13.
  3. Frost & Frost (1909), p 50
  4. Citing "NEHGR 153:278-90," Robert Charles Anderson, George F. Sanborn, Jr., and Melinde Lutz Sanborn Anderson, The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume II, C-F (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001), 593-597 (Edmond Frost) at 596; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
  5. Citing "Earls Colne, Essex, Parish Registers," Neil D. Thompson, "The English Ancestry of Thomasine (Clench) Frost, First wife of Edmund Frost of Cambridge, Massachusetts," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 153 (1999): 278-290, at 289 (Thomasine Clench in child list); digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
  6. Including snippet image of the parish register entry, Perry Streeter, "Thomasine (Clench) Frost of the Great Migration: Her Probable Correct Origins in Colchester, Essex," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 175 (2021): 5-18 at 10; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
  7. The 1906 Frost genealogy, p. 11, says that his second wife was Mary ____, but there is no other independent evidence to support such a marriage.
  8. Citing "MLR 4:80-82; GMB 2:1071-72" and "MLR 3:364," Robert Charles Anderson, George F. Sanborn, Jr., and Melinde Lutz Sanborn Anderson, The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume II, C-F (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001), 593-597 (Edmond Frost) at 596; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
  9. Frost (1906), pp 10-11, citing "Genealogical Register, History of Cambridge
  10. Citing "MPR 4:272-274," Robert Charles Anderson, George F. Sanborn, Jr., and Melinde Lutz Sanborn Anderson, The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume II, C-F (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001), 593-597 (Edmond Frost) at 596; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
  11. Robert Charles Anderson, George F. Sanborn, Jr., and Melinde Lutz Sanborn Anderson, The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume II, C-F (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001), 593-597 (Edmond Frost) at 593; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors,
  12. Frost & Frost (1909), p 8-9, without stating the name of a ship.
  13. Anderson, Great Migration
  14. Frost Family in England and America
  15. Frost Family in England and America
  16. Frost Family in England and America
  17. Robert Charles Anderson, George F. Sanborn, Jr., and Melinde Lutz Sanborn Anderson, The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume II, C-F (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001), 593-597 (Edmond Frost) at 596-597; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
  18. About Edmund's second wife Anderson (1995) wrote, "There is no evidence she had any children by any of her husbands"; see Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633, Volumes I-III, 3 vols. (Boston, New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1995), 1071-1072 (Edmund James) at 1071; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
  19. Charles Sumner Frost, Genealogical Frost record. 1635-1906, (1906), p 12
  20. Thomas G. Frost & Edward L. Frost, The Frost Family in England and America with special reference to Edmund Frost and some of his descendants, Buffalo, NY: Russell Printing Co (1909), pp 7-8
  21. Anderson, p ??
  22. Thomas G. Frost & Edward L. Frost, The Frost Family in England and America with special reference to Edmund Frost and some of his descendants, Buffalo, NY: Russell Printing Co (1909), p 7-8
  23. Frost (1906), p 12-13
  24. Anderson, Great Migration
  25. Thompson, Neil D., "The English Ancestry of Thomasine (Clench) Frost, First wife of Edmund Frost of Cambridge, Massachusetts," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 153 (1999): 278-290, at 278 and 287-289 (Robert Clench), specifically 289 (Thomasine Clench in child list); digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.
  26. Perry Streeter, "Thomasine (Clench) Frost of the Great Migration: Her Probable Correct Origins in Colchester, Essex," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 175 (2021): 5-18; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.

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Perry Streeter, “Thomasine-1 (Clench) Frost of the Great Migration: Her Probable Correct Origins in Colchester, Essex,” The New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 175 (2021): 5–18; online for free via:

https://perrystreeter.wordpress.com/articles

posted by Perry Streeter
Nice work Perry, and thanks for making your NEHGR and other articles available to the world. Very interesting findings. They'd belong on Edmund's wife's profile, though.
posted by Jillaine Smith
Thanks :)

I commented here because someone had already cited my article here (Sources 6 and 26) and I wanted to make sure that anyone interested was aware of the free version now available (again).

posted by Perry Streeter
edited by Perry Streeter
Consistent with the opening caution, am proposing here that we update his birth in the data field.

I updated his birth in the narrative to "almost surely England, about 1609 (age at marriage)," citing Robert Charles Anderson, George F. Sanborn, Jr., and Melinde Lutz Sanborn Anderson, The Great Migration, Immigrants to New England, 1634-1635, Volume II, C-F (Boston: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2001), 593-597 (Edmond Frost) at 596; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.

Also clarified the Great Migration finding that he migrated from Earls Colne, Essex by adding parenthetically, "he married there, 1634."

May we update the birth data fields? --Gene

posted by GeneJ X
edited by GeneJ X
Can we all at least agree to the fact that he is most certainly dead by now?
posted by Joy (Fowler) Jernigan
What makes you think some believe he's still alive?
posted by Jillaine Smith
Frost-824 and Frost-4208 appear to represent the same person because: same vitals
posted by Jillaine Smith
Looks like Frost-4208 is a duplicate. I see a merge was proposed years ago but not sure what happened. Frost-4208 has no sources. I didn't propose a merge.
posted by Kim Williams
I've re-proposed the merge; I also edited Reana James-7894 and removed her undocumented parents (but linked to them in the narrative) and proposed a merge for her into Unknown-209216.
posted by Jillaine Smith
Frost-824 and Frost-4887 appear to represent the same person because: Let's try this again; please approve and complete the merge; his wife Reana needs to be merged, too, into the Unknown surname.
posted by Jillaine Smith
I don't know why you wouldn't merge, they are obviously the same people. The correct data just needs to be shown with the sources that are on this profile. Reana is described in Torrey, with James as her first married name, not maiden name:

FROST, Edmund (-1672) & 3/wf Reana (____) (JAMES) (ANDREW?) DANIEL, w Edmund, w William, w Robert; by 1669, by 12 Apr 1669; Cambridge {Reg. 88:384; Pope's Pioneers 19; Gamage 48; Hall (,1) 40; Framingham Hist. 247; Winchester (1912) 184; Pillsbury Anc. 47.

posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Frost-4887 and Frost-824 are not ready to be merged because: Frost-824 is part of the Puritan Great Migration. Since the location of Edmund's birth differs and the last name of the wife in Frost-4887, Reana James, is provided with no source, I hesitate to merge the two profiles until there is confirmation regarding these details.
Frost-4887 and Frost-824 appear to represent the same person because: Same birth and death dates and locations
posted by Ken Sargent
Darlene, for PGM profiles, we go with Anderson's Great Migration research findings until something more definitive is published. Anderson only recognizes two wives, no Mary.
posted by Jillaine Smith
Interestingly on page 286 of New England Marriages Prior to 1700 it says:

1)Frost, Edmund (-1672) & 1/wf Thomasine___... 2) Edmund (-1672) & 2/wf Mary___... 3) Edmund, (-1672) & 3/wf Reana___... You all say there is not a second wife named Mary. How accurate would the source be? Usually when left with several young children, the men of that time married again fairly quickly. His first wife, Thomasine died when he was 44, probably with the birth of daughter Sarah. You say he married Reana Unknown in 1669 when he would have been about 60, 16 years after his first wife died.

I don't know, but Mary Unknown as a second wife looks to be quite possible under the circumstances.

posted by Darlene (Scott) Kerr
Have you all seen the source: England Select Essex Parish Registers stating that Thomasin Clench and Edmond Frost were married on 16 April 1634 in Essex, England?
posted by Darlene (Scott) Kerr

Unmerged matches › Edmund Frost (bef.1625-)
Rejected matches › Edward Frost (bef.1561-1616)

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