Alice Ann Fesmire
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Alice Ann Fesmire
Born 1940s.
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Alice Ann Fesmire participated with Southern Super Sweepers during the 2022 Source-a-Thon, adding sources to some previously unsourced profiles.

Biography

Author of Fesmire: A Family History and Genealogy by Alice Ann Fesmire Khalid. Published by the author, Baton Rouge, LA, 1982.

DNA

Paternal relationship is suggested by a 1,660.5 cM match between Alice Ann Fesmire GEDmatch A375139 and her niece Rachel Fesmire GEDmatch M117114, daughter of Arthur Gilbert Fesmire.

Maternal relationship is suggested by a 1,874.3 cM match between Alice Ann Fesmire GEDMATCH A375139 and her maternal uncle Paul Leonard Gilbert GEDMATCH A057114.

Maternal relationship is suggested by a 7.1 cM match between Alice Ann Fesmire GEDMATCH A375139 and X-8566. Their Most Recent Common Ancestor is Johann Dieter Elrod.

Comparing Kit A375139 (*aliceannaa1) and T883903 (Scott Duane Kendall) Largest segment = 11.0 cM 1 matching segments = chr 18 MRCA = William Speight

Comparing Kit T783702 Nick Hughey and A375139 (*aliceannaa1): 8 cM match
Chr 15
MRCA = Solomon Fuller and Mary Hargreaves Jones

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Kay Coney
Hi Alice. I’m Kay McCarthy, née Coney from Magnolia. I knew both of your parents and did not realize we may have common ancestors. I have been working-off and on-on the McDavitt tree and have a lot of information from James Duncan McDavitt forward. However, I nor a Davidson Clan geneaologist have not been able to find anything prior to his birth in Glasgow. It is the opinion of some of the McDavitt relatives that his parents were Irish and emigrated to Scotland, however, I can find no evidence of that. If you have any information, I would appreciate your sharing. Thank you. Kay
posted by Kay Coney
Fesmire-8 Alice Ann Fesmire
Hi, Kay!

Great to hear from you. I work on a lot of friends’ trees, but don’t do anything beyond our shores. This McDavitt line is Betty Jo (Carman) Flowers’ line (Carman-2292) - you remember her, right? I do a lot of Pike County people because they are related to my nieces through their mother, Laurie Van Fesmire. It’s not my line necessarily.

It’s terrific that we can all work together for free on Wikitree. My tree on Ancestry is too huge to move and some people don’t subscribe there.

Happy hunting!

Alice Ann

posted by Alice Ann Fesmire
Richard Facemire
Alice, I am a descendant of Christian Facemire/Fesmire who my research shows he was born in 1733 and came to America around 1752. My research shows that there was a Christian Facemire and a Christopher Facemire/Fesmire with a different birth date and he married a Martha Nesbeth in Philadelphia. I am wondering if they were relatives. I am trying to find the parents of my Christian Facemire and their origin which I believe is Germany. Do you have any information on these families? Thank you, Rick Facemire
posted by Richard Facemire
Alcida Fritz
Hi Alice,

I am aware of the source you are using and I'm using the same source. However, you failed to adhere to the source by not putting in the correct maternal line for Elizabeth Ward Williamson. William Ward and Elizabeth Sterling had one daughter and that's Elizabeth Ward Williamson. Elizabeth Ward Williamson is the half sibiling to Martha Rowland's children. If you have another source to share, I would be interested to see it. William Ward, Son of Thomas Ward and Ann Speller. Husband of Elizabeth Sterling. was born in 1754 in North Carolina. He married Elizabeth STERLING in 1788, William first wife. They had one child during their marriage. He died in 1828 in Mississippi at the age of 74. Source by: V. Andrew Burch & 2nd wife of William Ward. Daughter of John Alexander Rowland and Mary Saunders Source by: Sharon Ward. The other children are the offsprings of William Ward and Martha Rowland.

posted by Alcida Fritz
Fesmire-8 Alice Ann Fesmire
Thank you for your response, and I welcome any help you want to give. I got as far as Thomas Ward and Ann Speller, and I couldn’t find that documentation, so I just stopped. I am tracing the line of Elizabeth Ward Williamson, but I didn’t feel confident enough to take it further. Please add anything you like.

Alice Ann

posted by Alice Ann Fesmire
Alcida Fritz
Hi Alice, I have taken the ftDNA maternal test and I have also taken the Ancestry DNA test. I have no matches that would indicate Martha Rowland being a maternal grandmother. I do have DNA matches to the wells, Stewarts, Redman and Robbins. Your response is.... I am tracing the line of Elizabeth Ward Williamson, but I didn’t feel confident enough to take it further. Please add anything you like. This is your response, "Please add anything you like." That's not how genealogy works. You don't add erroneous information and then expect someone else to fix it, not to mention the fact you have went into multible accounts and added unproven information. Unlike you I have DNA I am tracing.
posted by Alcida Fritz
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Fesmire-8 Alice Ann Fesmire
Aren’t you wonderful? I took this information from William Ward’s will. Of course we are learning more from DNA. All we ever had was our grandmother’s word for it. It’s not necessary to berate other genealogists. Just present your facts. LACK of DNA doesn’t prove anything.
posted by Alice Ann Fesmire
Stephenson-2354 Beth Stephenson
Hi Alice

I saw that you created a new Charity Wells, daughter of Nathaniel Wells and Esther Ward. I am wondering what source you used to think that the correct daughter was Charity Wells Cameron and not Charity Wells Underwood? Is there a will for Nathaniel Wells? There are no sources that I have been able to find to confirm the change.

Additionally, findagrave includes both Charities as Nathaniel Wells's daughter and the Charity Wells Underwood Cosgrove remained living in the area of Orange County, Indiana. This is very near where Nathaniel Wells lived and died. I would like to see some concrete proof that your person who died in Illinois is even related to Nathaniel and Esther, as she appears to have been born the same year they were married. And the name on the tombstone is ELIZABETH, not Charity. There is an Elizabeth Wells Cameron who was already in the sibling group. So, maybe you can clarify with some actual sources. In the meantime, I will be re-adding Charity Wells Underwood Cosgrove as a child of Nathaniel Wells with research notes.

Please advise. Thank you.

Beth

posted by Beth Stephenson
edited by Beth Stephenson
Fesmire-8 Alice Ann Fesmire
Still working on it. Findagrave messed me up. Sorry. I’ve requested that they drop Charity from Elizabeth’s name. Probably should also drop Elizabeth from Charity’s too, so others don’t get confused.

Thanks, Alice Ann

posted by Alice Ann Fesmire
Jude Carman
These 3 names do not appear in my family records -- Lewis, Edgar, Henry -- there were other people by the name of Carman both in New Jersey and Ohio. None of their names appeared in Ohio nor Missouri cemeteries.
posted by Jude Carman
Fesmire-8 Alice Ann Fesmire
Once more… take a look at this Census record:

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8054/images/4204482_00144?pId=13869572

Do you see your Isaac there? Age 8? And below Edith, there is LOUIS P. CARMAN, age 3.

Please account for him. Just repeating (and repeating) your assertions does not make them fact.

posted by Alice Ann Fesmire
Jude Carman
Alice, the entry that you made for Lewis Carman on my great, great grandfather's William Charles Carman married to Charlotte H. Challender website is a mistake. He was not their son. William was the father of Isaac Carman (my great grandfather), who was the father of Alden Carman, my grandfather.
posted by Jude Carman
Fesmire-8 Alice Ann Fesmire
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/8054/images/4204482_00144?pId=13869570

https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7667/images/4282505_00051?pId=43368699

posted by Alice Ann Fesmire
Anon (Byrd) B
DNA matches between descendants of descendants of Francis Bird/Rhoda Schermerhorn and John Bird/Prudence:
  • A527106; DP3782771; WR5516898; A872917; EA5680299; PY1470082; MB6538726
  • A727454; T564225; T452821; A233172; BG7084700; XH3636942; M114038; T05139; A258161; EL3049426; A661667

1. Chromosome 1

  • A727454/WR5516898 = 244,102,151-247,654,993 @ 9.6 cMs
  • A233172/EA5680299 = 240,305,244-242,765,473 @ 7.4 cMs

2. Chromosome 2

  • A258161/MB6538726 = 128,387,937-134,230,217 @ 7.7 cMs
  • T452821/MB6538726 = 236,369,478-240,116,841 @ 7.7 cMs

6. Chromosome 6

  • A233172/WR5516898 = 604,158-2,914,609 @ 7.4 cMs
  • M114038/A872917 = 136,001,003-139,660,091 @ 7.2 cMs

9. Chromosome 9

  • A661667/DP3782771 = 14,250,285-17,609,302 @ 7.1 cMs

12. Chromosome 12

  • T051391/EA5680299 = 10,837,542-13,616,257 @ 7.6 cMs

15. Chromosome 15

  • EL3049426/PY1470082 = 33,167,171-36,059,349 @ 7.7 cMs

17. Chromosome 17

  • BG7084700/WR5516898 = 59,022,395-66,154,676 @ 8.4 cMs
  • XH3636942/WR5516898 = 56,147,344-66,163,231 @10.9 cMs

18. Chromosome 18

  • A661667/A527106 = 6,653,342-8,383,862 @ 8.3 cMs
  • A727454/A527106 = 7,174,604-9,783,269 @ 9.9 cMs
  • T564225/A527106 = 7,174,604-9,783,269 @ 9.9 cMs

Common Genome of Descendants of Francis Bird

posted by Anon (Byrd) B
Ward-9858 Stephanie Ward
Hi Alice, notice a few years ago you changed the parents on Breau-361, but without providing comment or source (or they were lost perhaps in a merge)? Can you share the source? Apparently there is a source for the original parents, so we'd love to hear from you before we change back.
posted by Stephanie Ward
Kreutzer-114 Pam Kreutzer
Hi Alice, I thought I'd let you know that I've put the Henry Bray line into the Southern Pioneers Trail, it's based on my Bray line, after the sources have been checked Henry Bray will receive a sticker: Pioneer Trail Award. It's based on accuracy of sources. Just kind of a fun thing to have on his profile.
posted by Pam Kreutzer

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