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Walcheline (Ferrers) de Ferrers (abt. 1135 - abt. 1190)

Walcheline (Walkelin) de Ferrers formerly Ferrers
Born about in Derbyshire, Englandmap
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Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
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Died about at about age 55 [location unknown]
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Biography

Walcheline/Walkelin was born in c. 1135. He was the son of Robert DeFerrers and Margaret Peverel. He passed away c. 1190. [1]

"Walter Durdant, bishop of Lichfield, in his charter, speaks of the school at Derby as the gift of himself and William de Barba Aprilis. Soon after this, whilst Richard Peche, who succeeded Walter Durdant in 1162, was Bishop of Lichfield, Walkelin de Derby and Goda his wife gave the mansion in which they dwelt, and which Walkelin had purchased of William Alsin, to the canons of Derley, on condition that the hall should be for ever used as a school-room, and the chambers for the dwelling of the master and clerks." [2]

Notes

Various sources have the daughters as daughters, granddaughters, and even great-granddaughters, with a possible son, Robert, and grandson, Robert, in between.

Daughter Isabel Heir

Walkelin, son of Robert, of the Standard ... so far so good ... but then has a son who dies, and Isabel is his heir:

"Walcheline de Ferrers, a younger son of the Earl who fought at the battle of the Standard, was seated at Oakham in Rutland; and though his son died s. p. and the property passed away through his daughter Isabel, his ancestral horseshoes still keep their place in his castle." [3]

Now, that also talks of Oakham and Eggington as separate branches:

"Another Ferrers, Lord of Eggington in Derbyshire, is mentioned by Dugdale; and a branch, to which a curious tradition is affixed, remained at Market Cell, in Bedfordshire, until the last century."

This tale of Isabel sounds like it's the same as this Isabel, who, according to other sources, is the daughter of Walchelin, son of Henry, son of William, son of Henry, son of Walchelin.

Robert Fitz Walkelin

Three Roberts in a row, then two daughters who are heirs:

"By the early 1100s it was held by Robert Walkelin, who was possibly related to the Ferrers. His son, also named Robert, inherited Radbourne. It eventually bequeathed to his eldest son, Sir Robert FitzWalkelin. The Manor then passed to FitzWalkelin's two daughters, one of whom married Roger de Chandos." [4]

Ermintrude, widow of William Grendon, with a daughter, Margaret, who marries a Robert Walkelin, whose two daughters are heirs:

"Besides the Ockbrook lands he held of his uncle William, the half manor of Egginton, and ultimately much or all the other half, for his widow, Ermintrude, gave the manor lo her daughter Margaret on her marriage to Robert Walkelin, a gentleman of Radbourn and Mugginton. Thisproperty wasafterwards divided between the two daughters and heirs of the latter, who were married to John Chandos and William Stafford, from the former of whom have sprung the present Chandos-Poles of Radbourn." [5]

Identifies Ermintrude as a Talbot, gave to Robert son of Robert:

"Ermitrude Talbot gave to Robert, son of Robert Fitz-Walkelin, in free marriage with Margaret her daughter, all her lands in Egginton which she had of the gift of William de Grendon, her husband. Margaret, elder daughter and coheir of this Robert married Sir John Chandos" [6]


Sources

  1. Wikipedia contributors, "Walkelin de Derby," Wikipedia, The Free Encyclopedia, [1] (accessed March 17, 2017).
  2. A collection of fragments illustrative of the history and antiquities of Derby, p 478 [2]
  3. THE BATTLE ABBEY ROLL. WITH SOME ACCOUNT OF THE NORMAN LINEAGES. [3]
  4. Built Heritage Statement: Land west of Ladybank Road, Mickleover, Derby planning.south-derbys.gov.uk/documents/pa/2015/9_2015_0768%20Heritage%20Statement%20(ADDITIONAL%20v2).pdf (broken link not on archive.org 23 March 2024)
  5. Dale and its abbey, Derbyshire: a short history and guide, p 36 [4]
  6. Magna Britannia, a concise topographical account of the several counties of Great Britain, p 156 [5]
  • The history and antiquities of the county of Buckingham, pg 252-253 [6]




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Ferrers-510 and Ferrers-400 are not ready to be merged because: same name and date but different birth place and different wife
posted by Stephen Heathcote
Ferrers-510 and Ferrers-400 do not represent the same person because: different
posted by Stephen Heathcote
Married Sybil de Braose, 1157 to 1228. They has a daughter, Agatha--1168 to 1216. I know of no other children. Agatha was a wife/mistress of John Plantagenet,(lackland), King of England, 1166--1216.
posted by Gay (Leonard) Brown

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