Why is marriage of Phebe Bisby to Samuel Martin listed as 1650?

Question

The profile of Phebe Bisby currently says that she married 2nd husband (Samuel Martin) in 1650.  But letters written by her father clearly show that they were married by 1646.

The source (which needs to be checked) for the 1650 date is given as: 

Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 154. [S16] Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 312-313. [S4] Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 525.

P.S.  Also see the related questions about her husband here: 

https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/564073/are-the-parents-shown-for-samuel-martin-1613-1683-correct

Comments

Have added the tag for Connecticut.

Answer 1

Believe we are accurate in placing the marriage as "before 11 May 1646," as that is the date given by Walter Goodwin Davis (and further referenced below) for a letter her father, William Bisby, wrote to his sister-in-law, Mary Wyllys, then wife of Gov. George Wyllys.* About Phebe, William Bisby then wrote, "shee was rash in her first marryage, & soe in her second." 

References--

(1) Citing "Connecticut Historical Society Collections, XXI: 87-90 ..," Walter Goodwin Davis, "Ancestry of Thomas Bressey of New Haven, Conn.," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 112 (1958):27-44 at 42-43 (6-Thomas Bressey); digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.

(2) William Bisbey (London) to Mary Wyllys (Hartford), letter dated 11 May 1646 in Albert C. Bates, Lemuel A. Welles, Forrest Morgan, eds., ''The Wyllys Papers ... 1590-1796'', as Collections of the Connecticut Historical Society, 31 vols. (Hartford, Conn. : Published for the Society, 1860-1967), 21 (1924):87-90 at 89; digital images, HathiTrust.     

*Note: According to her profile, Mary Smith married (1) Alexander Bisbey, and was his widow when she married (2) George Wyllys. According to Davis, Alexander Bisby was William's brother, see Walter Goodwin Davis, The Ancestry of Sarah Stone ... (Portland, Me., The Southworth Press, 1930), 115-122 (Bisby) at 118-119 (5-Alexander Bisby); digital images, HathiTrust.  

Comments

Thank you for the star, M. Cole!--Gene

Answer 2

Torrey says before 1646, without a specific date. I think you should change it.

 

I edited the profile to add the reference to Torrey, and the edit is there, but does not show up in the profile. What the heck?

Answer 3

Connecticut chiming in. I don't find any record of the marriage in New Haven, which would not be unusual for a second marriage. As a matter of fact these families Martin and Bressy/Bracy made almost no records in the town at all.

Families of Ancient New Haven makes one reference to Bracy: Susanna & John baptized 15 Sep 1647.

Answer 4

I see that Torrey has already been mentioned; however, I will list the full citation here in the event you would want to check the other sources;

MARTIN, Samuel (-1683) & Phebe BISBY/BISBIE/BRACEY, w Thomas; in Eng, by 1646; Wethersfield, CT {Wethersfield 2:126, 499; Hadley 16; Hartfield 389; Braley Gen. (1913) 3; Ludington-Saltus 161; Hartford Prob. 1:334; Stone Anc. (1930) 104, 121}

In Torrey, Clarence Almon. New England Marriages Prior to 1700 Volume II: H-S. Boston: NEHGS, 2011. Page1006.

A few years back, one of our Wikitreers (I don't recall who now) suggested I list the full source as above for a marriage when I was cleaning up very early FDR ancestors who settled in NY. You likely have this source now, but it is reinforced here.

Happy genealogy hunting! Hi Anne B!