Can someone help me out in finding this in the "past"?

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Need help in getting this Obituary posted in May 23, 1972 in the Winnipeg Free Press, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada.  Would like a link to it and believe it should be in "the past" somewhere?  I do have the full obituary but it is very very long so feel this might be a better idea.
WikiTree profile: John Syrnick
in The Tree House by E. Lauraine Syrnick G2G6 Pilot (123k points)
retagged by Ellen Smith

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I found this link, but it seems to have a paywall, so its value is limited: http://archives.winnipegfreepress.com/winnipeg-free-press/1972-05-24/page-39/pageno-44826775?tag=syrnick&rtserp=tags/syrnick?pd=24&pm=5&py=1972

If you have a clipping, and its not in copyright, you could scan and upload to wikitree. That's what I did for my Great-grandfather's death in 1918 - all I could find was paper in the archives.  Here's my example: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Trefry-876

I've seen others retype the text of an obituary.

I'm quite sure there are other better ideas!  I'll watch this thread to see what you learn.
by Laurie Giffin G2G6 Pilot (105k points)
selected by Susan Laursen

The OCR text box on that page (scroll down the page to find it) is readable without paying for the site. I searched in that box for the string syrnick, and I got the text of the obituary (mostly intact, but it has some obvious errors): "JOHN H. SYRNICK After a lengthy illness John H. Syrnick passed away on Sun- day, May 21, 1972, at the St. Boniface Hospital. Born in the Ethelbert, Manitoba, district on May 4th, 1904, the son of Hnat and Anna (nee Educat- ed in Ethelbert, Winnipeg and Saskatoon....."

I've used web pages like that one as sources in WikiTree. Your source is the publication itself -- cite the publication name, date, item title (this seems to be "Deaths and Funerals"), and page number (this one is page 39), and provide the URL as a convenience link for the benefit of people who read the profile. And you can paraphrase and quote the contents of the obituary. I think pretty much all of the information in that obituary is appropriate for a WikiTree profile's biography. You might even want to include the pallbearers, as an indication of who his family, friends, colleagues, and admirers were.

Thank you very much Ellen.  Are you ;telling me I can copy and quote the entire death notice as long as I put in where it came from?  I know the obituary was written by a family friend and remember the entire funeral very well.  It lasted three hours and then we went to the cemetery and then returned ;to the church for a dinner - a bit of an ordeal for my late mother-in-law and late husband.   I will have to press the newspaper ;which is a bit aged and yellow, but could post it by taking a photo of it.  Please let me know if that is what your are suggesting.
Please note that I misquoted this obituary.  It came from the Winnipeg Tribune and not the Free Press.  The Tribune is no longer available .  How do I handle this?
I can imagine that it was a long funeral. From what I read of his obituary, it sounded like there would have been a lot of people wanting to pay him their respects.

As for the obit, anything that was published can be cited as a valid source. Sources don't have to be available on the Internet. A newspaper does not need to be publishing currently to be an information source -- it's probably in a library somewhere.

While it's possible that somebody claims copyright on everything that was once in the Winnipeg Tribune, it's not real likely, and you have a good claim on the obituary. So go ahead and post an image of it if you like.
Thank you Ellen and also thanks to Laurie Giffini for your assistance.

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