I am done being ignored [closed]

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Numerous times I have asked for help on various things and have gotten absolutely no help from anyone. I have received rude messages but no help. I really thought I would enjoy being part of this collaboration but I was wrong. So I am done asking for help, I am done being frustrated and I am done with the rude comments from people.
closed with the note: Two year old post/issues
in The Tree House by Jennifer Reyes G2G6 Mach 1 (15.0k points)
closed by Darlene Athey-Hill
Too many contributors are voicing the same problem in slightly different terms. I suggest the wikitree elders/members need to deflate those egos and get a grip!

If action is not taken to stop the harassment of members that are not perfect professionals soon, this site will go completely to the dogs.
Jennifer: where are you asking for help? I've found I get the best help by asking questions here on the g2g/forum.

Also, before I post a question to a profile, I check to see if the profile manager is active by clicking on their contributions link. If they haven't made a contribution in more than six months, I don't expect I'll hear from them. (But I try anyway.)
I think they should lose all of their designations as a profile manager for the profile in question at a minimum  after 2 more weeks they should be stripped of all of their  manager designations and after 6 weeks expelled from the community
Wow! I have been away for several months and come across this G2G talking about the same problem as when I left. Sounds like is getting worse.
The longer Wikitree continues to encourage newbies to upload gedcoms, the more the problem of inactive/unresponsive "managers"'will continue to grow. People dump their gedcoms and leave. I don't support John's suggestion but I understand how he got there.

3 Answers

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Best answer

Jennifer --

I'm sorry you're having a hard time, and I hope you'll give us the chance to show you the ropes so we can help you feel better about working on your family here.

Here are a few things you can do when you're not getting the help you need:

  • Make sure to tag your posts on G2G with tags that will catch the attention of people who can help you with whatever problem you're having. It sounds like maybe GEDCOM would be a good one for some of the struggles you've been experiencing. (I've added tags to your post up there to catch a few groups that can help)
  • Don't be shy about using the Contact a Mentor link on the Help menu in the upper right corner. Our mentors are busy, but they all love to help other members learn the ropes.
  • Make sure that you're making ample use of the Help Index, also on the Help menu. It took me quite a while to really get into doing this, but it's kind of my best friend now! ;-)
  • If you're having trouble with a specific member, please, please, please use the Problems with Members link, again, on the Help menu. We have all signed the Honor Code, which means that we've all promised to be courteous to one another, and we don't take that lightly.

As I'm sure you've noticed, Wikitree is vastly different than any other genealogy website for a couple of reasons. 

First of all, it's run almost exclusively by volunteers. Those of us on the Leader team and all of the other projects don't get paid for being here. We're here because we love what we do, and we want WikiTree to be the best it can be. The downside of that is that our time is limited. Many of us have full-time jobs, but we still make a point to do what we can to help out fellow Wikitreers.

Secondly, because we have a "one profile per person" goal here, GEDCOMs will not be imported in the same fashion as other websites. We can't just import the entire structure of a family because that would cause far too many duplicates to be created and would create an enormous amount of additional work for the people who scout the site for those and fix them. This is why the limit for the number of profiles you can import with a GEDCOM is so small, and it's also why you will oftentimes hear people discouraging the upload of GEDCOMs. It gets the profiles into the database quickly, but it really doesn't reduce the amount of work you'll be doing to get your family as it should be.

Finally, it's important that everyone have patience with each other, and I'm really sorry if anyone has been rude to you. That's not acceptable. Sometimes we all need to be reminded what it's like to be new and try to learn everything that's involved in creating a well-researched world-wide tree. There is a steep learning curve. 

I hope that you will make sure to ask for help here when you need it. There are plenty of people who are willing to step up and get you what you need.

by Julie Ricketts G2G6 Pilot (491k points)
edited by Julie Ricketts
+15 votes
Can I help, Jennifer? I don't answer a lot of questions, because they have to do with the USA and I am in Australia, but I hate to think that no one has been of help.
by Susan Scarcella G2G6 Mach 8 (80.8k points)
How kind you are Susan, I am not and expert in any way would help if I could
Thank you Susan Scarcella but I think I have lost the feeling of wanting to be part of WikiTree by the way I have been treated recently. I don't feel like very many people really want to help as much as they want to criticize and be rude. Maybe  I set myself up for this disappointment by believing in this site instead of being more skeptical. I do greatly appreciate your offer however.

 

Jennifer Gage
I am so sorry you have a bad experience like this, it is not very nice when people are being rude. I do not know what happen but please give it a change I can assure you there are really many lovely people on wikkitree and as you know there are always one that do not know how to be nice to other people, forget about the rude people they are not worth using time on.

If it was me I would tell the rude person in a nice way why the person treat you so badly, I hope too you will get some response on your note hear well done

Susan L
+15 votes
Hello Jennifer:  If there's something I can help with, I'd be happy to if I know the answer.  I do know that because it's summer in our neck of the woods, we don't get quite the same number of responses that we get when people aren't vacationing, but that's no excuse for rudeness.  Also, I don't know about you, but I find that the written word can sometimes sound ruder than it's meant.  Much easier to figure out the true feelings of a person you are facing and sometimes we get in a hurry; thus things sound rougher.  Many of us have had a difficult time with one or more people, but when you compare that to the huge number who want to help  in any way possible, I think eventually you'll see that it will be better if you can hang in there and let a few of us get you out of the problem.  Does that make sense? Now, what can I do?
by Darlene Kerr G2G6 Mach 3 (32.8k points)
Thank you Darlene Kerr, and that does make sense. I know that only adds to the frustration level. My biggest problem at this point is after uploading a couple gedcoms from other sites, I find a lot of information for some reason or another didn't transfer with the rest of the info. So now I have a large number of unconnected profiles, unsourced profiles, and duplicates. Which is why I seem to be getting rude comments from people (because so much is messed up and or missing.) I cant seem to get thingsocorrected. I will look for duplicates and merge duplicate profiles only to find one or more duplicates of same profile later on. What am I doing wrong and how do I fix this?
You are hitting the nail on the head for the reason the dastardly GED uploads are so hated with those of us who do a lot of work here!  The GED gurus keep telling us they have improved and the evidence does not show that to be the case.  In fact I am at the present moment trying to deal with one that was only uploaded a few months ago and added tons of duplicates where most of the time the name, relatives, dates match!  

Personally, I have just spent the entire summer going through my watchlist one at a time and fixing, sourcing, categorizing, etc. anything I now find amiss.  That is how the afore mentioned problem came to light in my Linscott family.  A suggestion from me would be to start viewing this genealogy quest as a long term thing, not fast and easy.  When I took that attitude for myself, things didn't seem so overwhelming and unreachable.  Slow and steady.  Send me a personal email so that we don't have to bore everyone with our thoughts and we can begin some work on your people.  There are pros involved with uploads who also might have some answers for us.

In the meantime, I'll pass along some words of wisdom given to me when I became frustrated with a person on Wiki.  Don't email or respond while you're angry.  And the other from the wonderful Keith Baker was to go have a glass of wine!  Keith was one of my first mentors here and he could always make me laugh.  Isn't that a great gift?  Darlene
Easy to say ..... there needs to be consequences for people who do not respond. Like any pre-history and many post  civilizations, they should be banned

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