Help decipher First, middle, and last name between generations

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I am running in to problems here with last names.  They obviously do not follow like I would expect, fathers last name to children according to this.  

Here son's last name appears to be that of fathers middle, and daughter's name appears to be that of fathers middle??  What about the last of the father's names?  Any suggestions on how to deal with this? 

Thanks from a budding genealogist.... 

WikiTree profile: Oeke Dijkstra
in Genealogy Help by Matthew Jonkman G2G Crew (640 points)
retagged by Maggie N.

Please note that the concept of middle name is unknown in the Netherlands. That is why we always check the "No middle name" field in Dutch profiles. If more then one first name is present we record them all in the "Proper First Name" field.

What you interpreted as middle names of the persons related to this marriage are actually patronymics. Starting in 1811 Dutch people had to register a surname. Before that people mostly used the patronymic, so Kornelis would have been named just Kornelis Pieters. For reasons unknown to me in Friesland they often continued the (unnecessary) use of patronymics, combined with using surnames, as in in your example.

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I am not seeing any confusion with the document you linked to:

  • Groom: Kornelis (son of Pieter) Douma
  • Groom's father: Pieter (son of Jouke) Douma
  • Groom's mother: Sijke (daughter of Kornelis) Bartlema
  • Bride: Grietje (daughter of Rinze) Wassenaar
  • Bride's father: Rinze (son of Arjen) Wassenaar
  • Bride's mother: Oeke (daughter of Dirk) Bierma

Was there another document you intended to link to?

by Rob Ton G2G6 Pilot (294k points)
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You may get a little dizzy when the groom is (very appropriately) named after his maternal grandfather. But it could have been worse - there could have been Pieters and Kornelises on the bride's side as well ;-)

Thanks for clearing that up.  I guess it was the ordering of the names that I had not seen before, I was expecmating Pieter Douma Joukes to be listed as Pieter Joukes Douma.
Don t worry Matthew! We are all her to help you out at the Dutch soooo crazy name givings! :D

It is just great if you figure some out. Be proud! We all went there! :) So keep asking please!

:)

A,

 

LOL seeing date now............. Hope things are solved! :D

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