Derryvalley Presbyterian (Monaghan, Ireland) - two cemeteries or one?

Question

I have created a Category and Space for the cemetery of 1st Ballybay Presbyterian Church, County Monaghan:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:First_Ballybay_Presbyterian_Churchyard%2C_Ballybay%2C_Monaghan

However there seem to be two burial sites on the same location. I guess one is newer and one older, as one of the buildings looks newer.

As covered on the above Space page, there are three Findagrave categories and two IrishGraveyards entries, but there are dozens of gravestones duplicated across the main two Findagrave categories , and I cannot tell whether the IrishGraveyards separation is correct or not.

Should we make two separate cemetery categories, or just use one for both sites ? And if so, what should the other one be called?

I have seen in both newspaper and contemporary searches that the name "Derryvalley Presbyterian Church" cemetery/graveyard is used for both sites.

Answer 1

You can guarantee that if Irish Graveyard Surveyors have them as two different sites then they are indeed 2 sites. I know Mr Durkan the owner of IGS and he is meticulous in that respect. Often what could be considered as one, which is Old and New, will be treated separately and since much of his work has been what can I say 'stolen' (web scraped) and put on Find A Grave they will be treated as such on find a grave. In this instance from the look of the buildings we are looking at two separate sites. Be aware of two points however. On each of his sites one or more graves are purposefully slightly wrong and the grave numbering system is proprietary and copyright. He gets very upset if it is used elsewhere, as I know to my cost (only in time fortunately).

Comments

which website is IGS?  (the ones I looked at so far are IrishGraveyards.ie,  kabristan.org.uk, and IGP-WEB.com)

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My other concern is that if we make a second category called "Derryvalley Presbyterian Church..." people will put profiles in the wrong category , since the older site also goes by the same name.  Any ideas there? E.g. can we call it ...(New Site) or something?

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IGS is Irish Graveyard Surveyors whose web URL is irishgraveyards.ie.

Answer 2

This would appear to explain the two graveyards and in the light of that information I would suggest that only one entry (category) should be maintaiined on WikiTree.

https://www.geograph.ie/photo/2020306

Comments

Good find!