US Civil War 2023 Sept Challenge: Shiloh National Cemetery Part II [closed]

Question

The September Challenge will be from the 4th of September to the 30th and we will be using the Challenge Tracker.

The June and August Challenges resulted in creating 2,240 profiles for ALL the soldiers who died as a POW in Camp Chase.

The September Challenge will be to complete the Shiloh National Cemetery Soldiers who died in 1862.  Presently we have profiles for 573 soldiers who are buried in the Shiloh National Cemetery. our goal is to add another 927 soldiers.  

To Sign-Up for the Challenge Click the following Link, it will take you to the Sign-Up Chart and Instructions:    USCW Challenge Worksheet   

Please join the Shiloh National Cemetery Challenge!!!!! 

GOAL:  Shiloh National Cemetery has been completed

UPDATES: we have added over 1,219 soldiers

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Does the national cemeteries keep list of all the POW camps and those who have died at these camps?

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I'm not sure about what the National Cemeteries list.  The Shiloh National Cemetery does list all the soldiers buried there.  Here are links to the WikiTree US Civil War POW Camps Space pages that might help you.  American Civil War POW Camps

US Civil War: War Between the States POW CAMPS (wikitree.com)

Answer 1

There are 214 names with the letter C. Who wants to tackle this letter with me?  

Ron, are  you up for another?

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Oops! Someone has already claimed the Cs.

There are 281names in the Bs.  Ron, do you want to takcle this one with me?

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Stormin' Norman,

Locked n loaded and the Rear Guard is ready to roll! The B's it is!

Semper Fi

Ron

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All right. My buddy is back in the saddle.

Watch out Bs I'm coming, and Hell is coming with me. We are gonna wipe out the Bs.

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Ron,

I knocked off the Bs.  I'll start the Es. Meet me when you can.

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Ron,

I'm still working in the E's .  I'll join you in the G's when I finish. There are occasion E profiles already created, but there are many that were not created. I'm working throught those.

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Ron,

I met you in the Gs. We finished that letter. Let's knock off the Hs next.

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Ron,

I am not finished in the Hs. I'm only up to Hale. I run into an occasional profile already created. But there is still work to be done in the Hs.

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Ron,

We have the Hs done.  Where to next?

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Ron,

The few remaining letters have all been claimed. Looks like we are out of work, buddy.  See you next challenge.

Answer 2

Hi

I can help out with the Surname Letter beginning with “F”

Answer 3

I will try to work on some during this challenge. I will concentrate on the letter "W"

Comments

Welcome to the Challenge Dean, I'll add you to the signup chart.

Answer 4

I worked on “D”s yesterday. I was so proud of myself for all the hard work. Then, last night I checked the scoreboard. I think I’ve done maybe five — and one, that I found on Find a Grave shouldn’t count, because after I finished researching him, I decided he wasn’t really there, and I should know better by now not to trust Find a Grave memorials without images.

Anyway, it’s good to see that there are others who are faster at this than I am.  There’s a good reason I end up on the Toddlin’ Tortoises team for all the ‘thons.

Comments

HI, your doing great, everyone has their own speed, and some of these guys do not have a lot of sources.  I've got guys who do have memorial Stones and I can't find any records except their memorial.   My trick is to write down all the soldiers I'm working on, then go and find what I can before I start making profiles, then I move faster through them, plus it helps me keep track of what I'm doing.  I tend to go off the track at times and need reminders of where I was  

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I ended up with the NPS site open in one tab, Find a Grave in another, the Category page in a third, and the Roll of Honor book open in a fourth. Then I could cross-check that they hadn't already been added -- and that they actually had a stone there.

I was bummed about that one, though. I'd found his grandfather on WT, so I was able to add his parents' profiles before I started him, so he was even connected. So that was three sources that didn't count, but still. He did die in the war and needed to be added. It's just that he still lies in an unmarked grave.

Answer 5

I suppose we shouldn't have a favorite profile, however;  my favorite profile in the Shiloh National Cemetery Category is Lt Colonel William K. M. Breckenridge, who served in the Mexican-American and Civil Wars. What can I add to make his profile prettier?

I visit his grave often and think he is buried in one of the most beautiful areas of the cemetery as it on top of the bluff overlooking the Tennessee River.

Comments

Nice Profile Margaret

Answer 6

My 2nd great Grandfather, James Andrew James b. 1848 Alabama died during the Civil War and I have not be able to find anything on where he died or which battles he was part of. I have his widows' pension file giving the following information: He was a private in Massenberg's Battery South Carolina Light Artillery. He was killed on the battlefield in 1865 (does not state which). His wife was pregnant with my Great Grandfather who was born in Troup Co. Georgia on Nov. 18, 1865. I would love to be able to find where he died and what battles he fought in.

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I just realized I did a profile for his step-father, 1st Sgt. James L Bartee.  James James was living with him in the 1860 census in Chambers County, Alabama.

Still have not found a lead for James A James.

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I was unable to find any real additional information, but I did update his WikiTree profile with what I could find: James A. James

It seems likely to me that, due to his age, it is fairly unlikely he was even officially enlisted. He was married at 16 (in 1864) and died at 16 or 17 (in 1865). His wife drew a pension decades later. She was most likely mistaken as to the state his unit was from... they were both from eastern Alabama, along the border with Georgia. He likely died at Mobile, AL, with Massenburg's Battery.

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Matt thank you so much. I appreciate your help. I have to agree with you after years of researching. His widow Amanda Caroline never remarried.

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Thank you Margaret I will check those and see if he shows up.

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Rosemary,

When a soldier transfers from one unit to another, he is not always picked up in the records.  I was thinking maybe James first enrolled in another unit and then moved to the Massenburg's Artillery. That could be why he does not show on the roster of recruits for that unit.

With that in mind, I thought maybe James started with the 4th Reserves because his step-father was a Sergeant in Company H.  But I did not find James in the 4th Reserves roster.  

I still like that idea and think it is worth searching other units formed around Chambers County. He may have enlisted into one of those and later moved to Massenburg's Artillery.

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Thank you Norman, I did go back and look through some of the Artillery Units from Ala. I found one James, James in the Eufaula Light Artillery but it shows both a rank in and a rank out. If I am not mistaken rank out is not shown if they are KIA or MIA . They ended up in Mobile in Jan 1865.

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Rosemary,

Rank out is usually shown if they are KIA.  On the general index cards for each soldier (what was used by the National Park Service to create their Civil War database, both rank in and out will be listed, if known, even on the KIA.

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Thank you Norman, then this could possibly be him. Eufaula isn't that far from where they lived.

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Rosemary

At least that is a lead you can follow. Alabama was not the best on record keeping. But then, they are not the worst either. So many Confederate records were destroyed near the end of the war to prevent them from falling into the hands of the Union forces. That makes it tough to track Confederate soldiers.

 I'm sure you are anxious to break through the wall and find him.

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Thank you Norman I appreciate your help.

Answer 7

Pam

You can mark the Bs done on your chart. I finished those already.

I found Calamity Jane's uncle in there.

Comments

Thank you

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Nice Job Norman!  there were so many with the LNAB starting with letter B. 

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Thanks, Andrew

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I’m curious. Who was the uncle of Calamity Jane you mentioned?

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Andrew Jackson Burge, Burge-2059

Died at Pittsburg Landing and buried at Shiloh National Cemetery.

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That is an awesome connection! A true highlight

Answer 8

I signed up for the letter "K."

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Thank you

Answer 9

Pam,

You can mark the Es done on your chart.  

I'm headed over to the Gs to meet up with Ron.

Answer 10

Pam,

You can mark the Gs done on your chart..

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Thank you Norman and Ron.  I'll be gone from Monday the 11th to Monday the 18th going camping, I doubt there's internet connections where I'm going so I won't be in contact for a bit. 

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Leaving us unsupervised.  We could get into all sorts of mischief while you're away.  Have fun.

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Oh My, your scaring me Norman 

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Enjoy your camping trip.

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Thanks Margaret

Answer 11

Who needs some assistance with their letter? I will probably have some time tomorrow afternoon to help.

Thanks,

Margaret

Comments

Greetings Margaret, I apologize I missed this question.

Do you want to help on letter "M"?  I'm almost finished with page 2, so if you want to start on page 4 I will start on page 3 tonight.

Kimberly

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Kimberly,

There are 8 pages of Ms that died in 1862.  Would you like for me to start from the back side and work towards you and Margaret?

I'm free and can help

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Yes, I will start on page 4 of M. Thanks, Margaret

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Greeting Norman & Margaret, yes & thank you....that means I will be able to get back to Andersonville sooner :)

Kimberly

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Ok. I'll start at the back and work forward.  I would like to see the group get all of Shiloh finished this time.

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Greetings Margaret,

It looks like you're working on page 3, so I will skip the rest of 3 and 4 and start on 5

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So sorry; on my computer, Shiloh page 4 starts with Leonard McClain (different war, skipped), then Jacob McClellan, who was previously done, then W. W. McClure, who was my first M.

Page 3 on my computer starts with Pvt J. F. Mathews, whom I don't see in the Shiloh National Military category.

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Margaret,

If you're free, you can help me with the letter N. I've started at the front. You could come in from the back.

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As soon as I get home will get on it this afternoon.

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Looks like the N's for 1862 are complete.

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I don't think so.  Pam said the Ns needed work.  I've been doing the ones from the front. I'm up to JW Newman.

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I started at the bottom and worked up until I met one’s already completed for 1862.

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Yes there were a couple already done in there. I worked from the start up to Northrup where you left off. The Ns are now done.

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Thank You. Appreciate you hard work on Shiloh. The category looks so good.

Answer 12

Could anyone use a hand with their letter. I am free and can help anywhere needed.

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I could use some help with the "W"'s, it would be greatly appreciated.

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Ok.  I'll work from the back side going forward

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Dean,

I cannot find where to start. I find profiles you have created at the beginning of the Ws and at the end of the Ws.

Where do you want me to start working?

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Dean,

I am working from the beginning headed back to meet up with you.

Answer 13

Greetings, thank you to Margaret & Norm for their help, we're finished with the "M's" I will note the spreadsheet.  Pam can you please mark it as DONE!!!  Thank you Kimberly

Answer 14

Greetings, happy to help anyone who needs assistance on their letter.

I heard Andersonville Prison calling so I will start back on that project unless someone needs help.

Have a wonderful weekend.

Kimberly

Comments

Kimberly,

I am assisting Dean with the Ws.  I started at the front and I'm still in the Walkers.  Dean's somewhere in the back (not sure his pattern).  You could jump in at the Wi's. Work from the last Wi forward.  I will meet up with you somewhere in between. That way we can finish off the front part of the Ws.  Thanks.

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Sounds like a plan.  Christian Whitmer is on p6 and he's already been added by someone else, I will just review him quickly and start working backwards.

Answer 15

Greetings and Happy Sunday everyone, if anyone needs help on their letter please let me know, otherwise I will start back on Andersonville. Kimberly

Comments

It appears the goal of 1500 has been surpassed and stands currently at 1,585. Excellent job!

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That's awesome!

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Andrew,

Great news. With this much time left, we should be able to finish all the 1862 deaths in Shiloh National Cemtery.

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error

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I'm only seeing 1209 done on the tracker.  Where did the 1585 come from?

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Over 1600 listed in the category https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Category:Shiloh_National_Cemetery%2C_Shiloh%2C_Tennessee

On the main page of the challenge the goal next to the category was 1500.

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Thanks, Andrew.  

Does that mean we have done over 1600?  How does that chart relate to what we have done in this challenge?

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A lot of people are buried at Shiloh National Cemetery that didn't die during the Civil War. As far as I know, it is still an active cemetery, so those burials are added to the category: Shiloh National Cemetery.

Answer 16

Does anyone else want some assistance? We have people available to lend a hand.

Let's wrap up all the 1862 deaths in Shiloh National Cemetery.

Comments

We do have several people available to assist anyone who wants help with a letter.

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looks like the letter N could use some help

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Ok, Pam. I will attend to it.

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Thank you.

Answer 17

Greetings & welcome back Pam,  I hope you have a speedy recovery.

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Thank you, I tripped over a parking space cement block, got my elbow when i fell and hears the pop.  So i will need surgery.  Typing with one hand is slow work.  Thank you and the rest of the challenge group for stepping up and working together, you are the best.   We will skip the October Challenge, so I can recover.

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Oh Pam, ouch.  Hang in there and I have a feeling I can keep myself busy....Koda and Gracie are sending well wishes for a speedy recovery (my naughty pomeranians)

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Hope you are able to receive surgery sooner rather than later and heal quickly. Typing with one hand is frustrating.

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I'm having the surgery on the 27th

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I hope surgery goes better than expected and here's to a speedy recovery.