Problem with a member

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Hi, I have been recieving harrassing emails from family members I want nothing to do with. They seem to think they are entitled ownership over my entire paternal tree, despite how much work I've put into creating and editing the profiles. Quite frankly, I don't see them hardly working on anything at all.

My purpose working on my paternal tree is filling in the blanks for the sake of understanding what went wrong with that family (Let's just say they have a history....), as well as discovering what health problems to watch out for. And... because I simply work on a whim of whatever takes my fancy each day, creating profiles and adding sources and filling in other missing details like I always do.

Since I recieved abusive language from a cousin from her own profile last year (It was by chance that I saw she made an account, so I looked on her profile out of curiosity and found a bold message addressed to me in her profile greeting that I otherwise would not have seen), and from an aunt's emails via WikiTree, I refuse to communicate with them further.

The aunt has no account, but the cousin does. I don't see her working on hardly anything at all. In fact, I waited for a long while before I checked and found nothing on the Gallagher family, and still nothing more on the Fulk family. For that reason, I have reason to believe the major reason for their use of WikiTree is to stalk and harass me and my immediate family. The aunt certainly tried to lure my autistic sister last autumn into communicating with her on social media before we gave her a warning. they're obviously bored and want to be angry over old stuff again (The aunt is not making sense in the email, as she's talking about an old Memory I posted on the grandfather's profile, of when I saw him abuse my father when I was little, and mentioned a cruel, hurtful statement he once told him. I deleted it a long time ago, and the profile hasn't even been touched since 31 Aug 2022), I think it's nigh time to get a restraining order against them.

So, my question is: What can be done since they're mostly using WikiTree to abuse and harass me again?

The emails:
1.

" If you are NOT interested in communicating with Fulk family.
Then why do you have the Fulk family tree on your page?
You should not be making changes to the various Fulk family members pages.
Once again you state you are NOT interested in communicating......................read below.
You say one thing but do another.
Makes NO sense to me. 
Leave our family alone.
Perhaps you should change your last name to Cooper.
Have a nice day!


Note: NOT interested in communicating with or 
seeing my biological father's close family (Fulk, Minard, Larson, Williamson, etc.). 
My interaction with a cousin in June 2022 regarding the Fulk grandfather's profile
was NOT a ticket to get back into our lives; 
it was purely to settle a problem they had with a detail of my childhood memory 
I left on the profile (which they did not directly bring up to me), to calm
the unreasonably aggressive attitude exhibited, 
and to educate them on what is expected from members on WikiTree. 
This is a simple and easy request. "

The bold note above is what's been on my profile greeting for a long time. The ironic thing about 
her statement is that, while it appears that according to her, my editing and adding profiles means 
that I'm communicating with them, she's really just using that family's old manipulative tactic of 
getting someone to say something, so they can use it as fuel for their anger. That's how toxic they
 are. I learned from a young age that blind anger is a measurement of stupidity, and the addiction
 to the emotion in an active way with others is a huge time-wasting sport, too. Note that they 
also use the manipulative tactic of pity and 
humility to lure you into trusting them if 
trying to trigger you into arguing with them doesn't work. The cousin already tried that by 
saying the aunt and other family doesn't talk to her anymore due to anger problems she 
admitted to having, and how she knows little about other family members out there and has
 interest in finding out. I'm not buying that. I'm sure they're still in close contact with each 
other. Quite frankly, I don't see why they're trying so hard to get us back into our lives. We're
 not their property, neither do we own anything of worth that they'd want to steal. It's 
probably for revenge since my brother and I testified of a crime our father committed when
 we were little, and how the aunt's sister used their property loan thing to bail him out, 
only to find he was found guilty, and they likely lost their property as a result. Maybe even
 being upset enough that they didn't want to talk to them anymore? Too bad, if that's the 
case....  

2. " Your post about my Dad & Brother is uncalled for. 
You are absolutely being rude. You say you don't want anything to do with Fulk's then remove your post and 
leave everyone in our Fulk family & our family tree 
alone! Leave EVERYONE alone! Jennifer move on 
and quit being rude................focus on The 
Cooper's. Have a nice day! "

Again, I deleted my Memory of what the grandfather did and said to my father, way last summer. 
Maybe she found an old email notification? 
Saved the screenshot? (So did I, FYI.) 
Maybe it's a manipulative tactic to get me to argue with her? I don't know, and I don't care. 
All I know is they won't leave me alone, 
because I'm seeing these emails come up.
 All I want to do is be left alone doing what I've always done. 

Funny thing about wanting the tree to themselves
 is they probably haven't realized just how 
many other people work on the Fulk tree....

In the grandmother's hushed words to my 
mom one day: "The Fulk family *is* a very
 jealous family...."

Part-true. My siblings unfortunately are, but 
there are many branches in the tree, so it 
had to start somewhere. And it's likely going
 to be found as public records because it's 
people who died a long time ago. And unless
 they're trying to run for public office, which 
I highly doubt, old records are things they 
really shouldn't feel shame for. It's something
 where you must recognize in yourself that 
you have a problem that's been known in 
your family, and you do something about it 
in the form of research, self-control, 
self-discipline, and seeking help, and 
getting treatment. But you have to want
 to go through with it, otherwise no one can
 fix you or help you get better. It's a viscious, endless, toxic cycle you have to get out of
 yourself with a lot of effort and unwavering determination.

Note: Sorry for the odd formatting of the above. It must have been from the copy and paste of her email since it was in a typewriter font. I'll fix it when I get an opportunity.
in WikiTree Help by Jennifer Fulk G2G6 Mach 6 (60.4k points)
retagged by Jennifer Fulk

4 Answers

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Best answer

Please see this page:  https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:Problems_with_Members

There is a good process in place, individual Wikitreers should not be called out on G2G

by Kathie Forbes G2G6 Pilot (879k points)
selected by Robin Lee
+13 votes

Hi Jennifer,  I'm very sorry to hear you are having all these issues w/other family members.  Sometimes people get so wrapped up in the little details of daily life and little events they don't see the bigger picture of things.  

What I would suggest is that you go to the upper right hand side of your profile and click "Help", scroll down and click on "Problem with Member", then file a request - for "mentor intervention".  It seems you have already tried to put a stop to all of this on your own, it maybe time to call in a mentor.  They maybe able to help resolve this situation.    

It sounds like some of your family doesn't realize this is a 1-tree world here on wikitree, and your limbs don't belong to just you or them, they belong to the whole tree and all the connections they may be able to make.  

I've had other family members in the past ask for full control of some of my immediate family connections ie" uncles, aunts, great uncles/aunts, & gr.grndparents.  What I did in these situation was added them to the trusted list so they could add information with primary and good secondary sources, but also told them, they were not to remove any of my information without consulting me first. I also told them, shouId they do something they fear may have caused damage to the profile, to contact me and will teach them how to fix it.  (in this way new members don't become overwhelmed while trying to learn- BUT this doesn't seem to be your issue, so it may not help...on the flip side...kindness and trying to get them engaged in the actual genealogical searching, and bringing in their own histories and memories, may go a long way to improving a profile for the person who lived and was known by others.)  

I also suggest edit your post and add "mentor" tag, "help" tag, and maybe even "wikitree team" tag, 

Also on the "help" section at the bottom is "Wikitree Team" 

here is link with information to contact them for additional help.  https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:WikiTree_Team

by Arora Anonymous G2G6 Pilot (166k points)
+6 votes
May I suggest that you ignore and avoid them. On the other hand, the bio's I create often contain info as would be seen on a headstone - minimal. I have had info in bio's used as a source for condescending and disparaging comments here on g2g. Since then, I keep bio information in a separate file for my personal use and share only if asked. WikiTree is great because of collaboration, collaboration also has it's down side.
by K Smith G2G6 Pilot (376k points)
+1 vote
I would suggest that your report the people involved. This has to end and they should be punished (if it comes to that) for what they have done. I would also suggest that you keep the messages that have been sent to you. You will need them, as evidence, if the situation (unfortunately) escalates.
by Living Buttrum G2G6 Mach 1 (15.0k points)

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