John Jordan 1764 - desperately trying to find his origin

Question

I love Wikitree so much. I've met more cousins through this site than any other combined, adding to the list today, Australia!

Enter my cousin (not from Australia) through my 5x great-grandfather, John Jordan. She has been searching for the origin of John Jordan for 60+ years.

Everything that I know about John is in his profile. Everything is sourced except his birthdate and marriage date, I'm not sure where those originated, perhaps his full cemetery record. I have also not added all of his children.

They are

1. Michael 14 Dec 1786 Orange, New York
2. William, 01 Mar 1788 Orange, New York
3. Jesse (added)
4. James, 21 Sep 1791 Otsego, New York
5. John, 17 Sep 1792 Otsego, New York
6. Andrew, 25 Sep 1795, Otsego, New York
7. Betsy Elizabeth, 1797, Otsego, New York, married Sebastion Weller
8. Isaiah, 22 Jul 1799, Otsego, New York
9. Sally Patty, 04 May 1801, Otsego, New York, married John Dygert
10. Jacob, 14 May 1803, Otsego, New York
11. Julia Margaret Peggy, 01 Jul 1805, Otsego, New York, married Charles Phelps

The Palatine Yordons and the Tory Jourdain/Jermaine/Jordans of New Brunswick, Nova Scotia have been ruled out.

I've tried several of the DRC books and other area churches without any luck.

Any help would be appreciated.

Answer 1

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHYC-NQM

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH5T-JYS

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XH2C-TDV

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJ8K-P3PK

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHGZ-LLV

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCB1-BPH

Comments

His records have all been found and linked I believe, and he was dead by the 1850 census, unfortunately. What's missing are his parents and or his arrival.

Thank you though!

Answer 2

Carrie

 

This doesn't answer the question, but may give you a place to look. I found this on Ancestry:

From: Ruth from Upstate New York <RUTHTHODEN@delphi.com>
Subject: John JORDAN/Julia SWARTHOUT
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 1996 16:33:54 -0500 (EST)

My ggg-grandfather, John JORDAN born March 9, 1764 (don't know where);
married probably in Orange Co., NY 1785 to Julia SWARTOUT who was born 1769
d/o Jacobus SWARTOUT. Jacobus was living in 1785 in Sugar Loaf, town of
Warwick, Orange Co., NY and assume his 16-year-old daughter, Julia, was living
with him at the time of her wedding. John JORDAN does NOT appear in the 1790
census of NYS as 1-2-1...as he would having had two males born to Julia by
census time 1790.
By 1800, John/Julia and family residing in Cherry Valley, Otsego Co., NY
beside her father, Jacobus, and her brother, Moses...She died between 1807 and
1810. An unnamed male child born to her in 1807 and she does not appear in
the 1810 census with John. John continued to reside in Cherry Valley until
about 1848 when he it was thought he joined three of his sons in the town of
Wirt, Allegany Co., NY but having recently found his will probate in
Cooperstown, county seat, Otsego Co., learned he died town of Pike, Wyoming
County, NY which is where one of his three daughters had settled. He died
1/26/1850 and is buried on lot of my gg-grandfather, Jacob JORDAN, in Mount
Hope Cemetery, Friendship, Allegany Co., NY (town in which I was born and
brought up)
Issue of this marriage:
MICHAEL who stated in 1855 census for Steuben Co., NY that he had been born in
Orange Co., NY.
WILLIAM who settled Steuben Co.
JESSE who settled Steuben Co. All of these three died in Steuben County, NY.
BETSEY - married Sebastion WELLER and lived in Canajoharie, Montgomery Co, NY
ISAIAH - migrated from Otsego to Steuben Co. as young lad with his brother,
Michael and lived with Michael until he married Polly Dakin, d/o Elisha...so
after marriage, Elisha Dakin and Isaiah with bride migrated to town of Wirt,
Allegany Co., NY and bought virgin land there.
JOHN and JAMES both settled in early 1820's in Cuba, Allegany Co., NY.
JULIA MARGARET - married Charles Phelps and settled Pike, Wyoming Co., NY
ANDREW - migrated from Otsego Co. to Allegany Co. buying land adjacent to his
brother, Isaiah in town of Wirt.
JACOB - my gg-grandfather also migrated from Otsego Co. to Allegany Co. buying
land adjacent to that of Isaiah.
SALLY - married John Dygert and lived Canajoharie, Montgomery Co, NY
UNNAMED SON - probably died at birth...
Tradition among family members is that the JORDAN clan came from Ireland, but
I've no proof one way or another. I've analyzed ALL Jordans who lived in
Orange County, NY before, during and after Revolution and find no connection
with my John JORDAN. Julia, wife of John, had two brothers, Aaron and Moses
SWARTOUT who married at the Presbyterian Church, Goshen, Orange Co., NY but
no record of John Jordan or Julia Swartout being baptized, married or ever
attending this church.
I've pretty much ruled out the possibility of my John JORDAN being a YORDON
(Palatine family who came to Mohawk Valley between 1709-1711)....
I've not ruled out possibility that my John JORDAN may have been product of
a JORDAN family who were Tories and fled to Canada...he returning after the
Revolution. There was such a family in Westchester Co., NY -- John JORDAN
born Scotland in 1729 descendants....but my John not part of this family.
Would like to hear from you!
Ruth Jordan Thoden

 

Comments

That would be the cousin. And the funny thing is, googling the subject is tougher because of the proliferation of these questions.

Also she has since ruled out the Tories.

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My Great Granny Bridget Clifford (Nee Jordan) left Co Galway Ireland & came to Australia 1866-69.  Her parents Henry & Mary Jordan (Nee Kelly / Kilkelly).  2 cousins John Jordan & more distant cousin Paddy Duggan went to New Zealand they seem to come from Co Galway too.  Kathryn    K M Doolan-Roche