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Thomas Batte Sr. (abt. 1642 - aft. 1695)

Thomas Batte Sr.
Born about in Birstall, Yorkshire, Englandmap
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Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
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Died after after about age 53 in Charles City County, Virginiamap
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Biography

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Thomas Batte Sr. was born in Yorkshire, England.

Birth and Parents

Thomas was the son of John Batte and Martha Mallory.[1][2][3] His birth date is uncertain but Douglas Richardson estimates it as about 1642. He was probably born in Birstall, Yorkshire where his father's main residence lay[1][2] and where his older brother William was baptised.[3][4]

Migration to Virginia

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Thomas Batte Sr. migrated from England to Virginia.
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Thomas emigrated to Virginia with his father and siblings in 1649.[1][2]

Marriage and Children

Thomas married someone with the first name Mary - her family origins are not known. They had five children:[1][2]

  • Thomas (1662-1691)[5]
  • Mary, who married Peter Jones[5][6]
  • Amy[5]
  • Sarah, who probably married John Evans[5] after 6 June 1695 - she is referred to as Sarah Batte in her father's will signed on that date[6]
  • Martha, who married Abraham Jones, the Rev. John Bannister and Stephen Cocke[6][7]

Mary is not named in Thomas's 1695 will[6] so she presumably died before then.

Life in America

On 29 August 1665 or 1668 Thomas and his brother Henry were granted 5878 acres on the south side of the James River in Appamattock, Charles City County, Virginia. This was for the importation of 118 persons into the colony, among them, William Bate, Jur. 2 times, Martha Bate, Jno. Bate, Senior, Jno Batte, Junr. Henry Batte, Tho Batte."[8]

On 3 February 1670 (possibly 1670/1) "Thomas Batts" and Richard Buller/Bullard were granted some 378 acres on the north bank of the Appomattock River.[9] On 11 January 1693 (possibly 1693/4) 180 acres of this appears to have been sold to John Herbert, with Thomas appointing attorneys for this purpose, along with 980 acres of land sold by Thomas's brother Henry.[10]

In 1671 Thomas, Thomas Woods and Robert Fallam led an expedition across the Alleghany Mountains.[11] A later expedition of James Needham and Gabriel Arthur was "made sensible of by the hands of Thomas Batt and Robert Fallam in part".[12].

On 8 April 1674 Thomas was granted some 1800 acres adjacent to land he already held near Appamattock.[13] Of this land:

  • he conveyed 200 acres of this to Colonel John Farrar on 1 June 1678: John Farrar's will, dated 4 March 1684/5, bequeathed this land to Thomas's son Thomas, and father and son sold it to William Byrd on 1 December 1686, with Thomas's wife Mary relinquishing her dower rights via her attorney Henry Randolph[10]
  • on 13 September 1684 he and his wife sold 100 acres to Gabriel Arthur, who sold it to William Byrd on 1 December 1686:[10] Gabriel is likely to be the Gabriel Arthur of the expedition referred to above.

In 1679 Thomas appears in a list of heads of household in Henrico, Virginia.[14] That year Geoffrey Ragsdale conveyed 50 acres in Henrico County to Thomas.[8]

The March 1684/1685 will of Colonel John Farrar bequeathed Thomas a horse called Darby which was already in his possession. Besides the 200 acres referred to above, it made bequests to Thomas's son Thomas and his daughters Mary, Amy and Sarah, in recognition of their kindness to him in his final illness.[15]

Thomas served as a Justice of the Peace in Virginia. According to one book he could not write his name, which is surprising, given his family background. A reviewer of the book suggests that he may have been physically disabled.[16] Thomas managed to set his hand and seal to his will,[6] which suggests that the book may be mistaken. One webpage says he was a member of the Virginia Orphans Court in 1679 and the Henrico County Court in 1680, with no citations.[17]

Thomas Batte and Richard Parker once engaged in a horse race at Varina, Virginia for a wager of 100 pounds of tobacco. Thomas alleged that Richard Parker cheated by forcing his horse to slow. The dispute went to court, where it was ruled that the race should be re-run.[18]

Death and Will

Thomas's will was dated 6 June 1695, so he died after that. It was acknowledged in court on 3 December 1696. In it he:[6]

  • left 135 acres to his daughter Martha Cocke
  • left the remainder of his land to his daughter Sarah Batte, together with the residue of his personal estate
  • left 12d to his grand-daughter Martha Batte, daughter of his son Thomas
  • left 10s to his daughter Martha Jones
  • appointed Peter Jones (his daughter Martha's husband) sole executor

Research Notes

Detached Wives

WikiTree has previously shown two Marys as wives of Thomas:

  • Mary Randolph: her profile is (at 21 March 2022) unsourced. This is the name given in a list compiled on behalf of The National Society Colonial Dames XVII Century and derived from pedigrees submitted by members between 1915 and 1975: no sourcing is given[19]
  • Mary Jennings: she is named as his wife on some unsourced trees on the web[20]

No good evidence has been found to identify the family name of Thomas's wife.

Alleged Second Wife

According to William Clayton Torrence, Thomas married twice, his second wife being called Amy, who had married three times before.[5] Weis says the same in The Magna Carta Sureties - he describes Amy as "widow of __Butler, Essex Bevill and Henry Kent."[21] Kathryn Gearhart confusingly and inaccurately states on a Wordpress site that Thomas "married Amy Butler, and then married two more times to Amy then Mary Randolph." No sourcing is given.[22] The suggestion that Thomas married an Amy stems from confusion with a Thomas Bott(e) who married someone called Amy.[23]

This Amy was Amy Butler who married Essex Beville (died in late 1682 or early 1683), Henry Kent (died before 2 August 1686) and a Thomas Bott(e) (married before 26 September 1688).[24] Thomas Botte was not the Thomas Batte of this profile: this is proved by a record of 28 February 1689 of Thomas Botte, his wife Amy, and Thomas Batte Senior making an escheat grant to John Beville.[25] "Thomas Batte Senior" is almost certainly the Thomas Batte of this profile and is self-evidently not the Thomas who married Amy. Thomas Botte may possibly be Thomas Bott-696. A Thomas Botte is said to have married the executrix of Essex Beville, with his last name spelt Batte on the web:[25] "Batte" is likely to be a transcription error for "Botte". Essex Beville's will named his wife Amy as executrix.[26]

At this time there was both a Bott(e) and a Batt(e) family in Henrico County, Virginia.

Earlier Thomas Batts

There is a free space page here about a Thomas Batts who may be a relation.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham, 2nd edition (Salt Lake City: the author, 2011), Vol. III, p. 123, MALLORY 14.iii.b, Google Books
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), Vol. II, p. 314, CORNWALL 19.ii
  3. 3.0 3.1 J W Clay. Dugdale's Visitation of Yorkshire, with additions, Vol. I, William Pollard, 1899, p. 354, Internet Archive
  4. West Yorkshire, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1512-1812, Ancestry.co.uk and linked parish register image: the transcript mistakenly lists the last name as Boswell; the image is clear that his father was John "Bat of Okewell"
  5. 5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3 5.4 William Clayton Torrence. Henrico County: Virginia: Beginnings of Its Families: Part III in 'The William and Mary Quarterly', Vol. 24, No. 4 (April 1916), p. 269, JSTOR - account (free) required
  6. 6.0 6.1 6.2 6.3 6.4 6.5 Transcript of will : Library of Virginia, Digital Collections, http://digitool1.lva.lib.va.us:8881/R/-?func=dbin-jump-full&object_id=1289053 Pages 100-199, image 21 of 100 (may not be viewable on mobile devices)
  7. Virginia Webb Cocke. Cocke and Cousins, Vol. II, printed for the author in 1974, p. 3, Familysearch (image page 17)
  8. 8.0 8.1 William Clayton Torrence. Henrico County, Virginia: Beginnings of Its Families: Part I in 'William and Mary College Quarterly', Vol. XXIV, No. 2, 1915, pp. 140-141, Internet Archive
  9. Library of Virginia, Land Office Patents No. 6, 1666-1679 (pt.1 & 2 p.1-692), p. 343 (Reel 6), web
  10. 10.0 10.1 10.2 Bernard B Weisiger III. Henrico County, Virginia Colonial Deeds 1737-1750, Iberian Publishing Company, 1985 (page numbers needed)
  11. Explorations beyond the Mountains in 'The William and Mary College Quarterly', Vol. XV, 1907, pp. 234ff, Internet Archive
  12. Letter from Abraham Wood to John Richards, August 22, 1674, transcript in The Travels of James Needham and Gabriel Arthur through Virginia, North Carolina, and Beyond, 1673-1674, ed. R P Stephen Davis Jr, Southern Indian Studies, Vol. 39, 1990, pp. 31-55, web, accessed 16 April 2024
  13. Library of Virginia, Land Office Patents No. 6, 1666-1679 (pt.1 & 2 p.1-692), p. 509 (Reel 6), web
  14. William Clayton Torrence, Henrico County, Virginia: Beginnings of Its Families: Part I, p. 132, Internet Archive
  15. Transcript of the will of Colonel John Farrar in The Farrar Family (continued) in 'The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography', 1893, pp. 424-426, Internet Archive
  16. Review of Institutional History of Virginia in the Seventeenth Century by Philip Alexander Bruce (published by G P Putnam's Sons, 1910) in 'The Virginia Magazine of History and Biography', Vol. XIX, 1911, p. 222, Internet Archive
  17. Notes for Thomas Batte, accessed 21 March 2022
  18. Notes for Thomas Batte, accessed 21 March 2022: citing Louis H Manarin and Clifford Dowdy, The History of Henrico County, University Press of Virginia, 1984, p. 60, Google Books
  19. Mary Louise M Hutton (compiler). Seventeenth Century Colonial Ancestors of Members of the National Society Colonial Dames XVII Century, Vol. 1, Genealogical Publishing Company, 1976, p. 18, Ancestry
  20. See for instance this tree on Ancestry, accessed 21 March 2022
  21. Frederick Lewis Weis, with additions and corrections by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr and William R Beall. The Magna Carta Sureties, 1215, 5th Editioin, Genealogical Publishing Company, 1999, p. 143 (line 109/16)
  22. Kathryn Gearhart. Allied Families in Henrico and Charles City: The Batte Family, web, accessed 21 March 2022
  23. '1671 and other interesting things', Ancestry.com, accessed 21 March 2022
  24. Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 196, BEVILLE 16, Google Books
  25. 25.0 25.1 Website of Dr James Malcolm, post of 28 February 2017, Early Bevilles of Four Virginia Counties (citing Will and Deed Book 1688-1697, pp. 70 and 123), accessed 13 April 2024
  26. Benjamin B Weisiger. Colonial Wills of Henrico County, Virginia: 1654-1737, 1976, image on Familysearch

See also:

Acknowledgments

Magna Carta Project

This profile was re-reviewed for the Magna Carta Project by Michael Cayley on 21 March 2022.
Thomas Batte is listed in Magna Carta Ancestry as a Gateway Ancestor (vol. I, pages xxiii-xxix) and was identified by the Magna Carta Project as being in trails to Magna Carta Surety Barons Saher de Quincy and Robert de Vere that were project-approved/badged in May 2015 and re-reviewed in March 2022. Trails from the Batte Gateways to William d'Aubigny, Robert de Ros and Robert FitzWalter were developed and badged in 2022. The Batte Gateways also appear as Gateways in an second Richardson-documented trail to Saher de Quincy (vol. III, pages 114-123 MALLORY) that was badged by the Project in October 2022. The trails are set out in the Magna Carta Trails section of his brother Henry's profile.
See Base Camp for more information about identified Magna Carta trails and their status. See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as a "badged trail".




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"Mary, wife of Thomas, Sr., relinquished her dower right by her attorney Henry Randolph."

Just curious to anyone who might know or venture a guess, does the above suggest a possible family relationship between Mary and Henry or was this Henry Randolph just a practicing attorney in Henrico at the time?

posted by John C. Fox
Henry Randolph has a profile here. He worked as a lawyer in Virginia and was Clerk of the Virginia House of Burgesses. According to WikiTree's relationship finder, he and Thomas Batte shared a seventh great-grandmother, which is a very distant family connection. This would almost certainly have been simply a routine bit of legal business undertaken by Henry Randolph.
posted by Michael Cayley
Thank you so much, Michael! You're probably right but I was thinking of Henry Randolph II (abt. 1665 - 1693) which aligns with the 1686 date (which I should have included). Likely pure speculation, but I was thinking he might have been Mary's brother,

Here's the entire transaction: "Thomas Batte, Sr. and Thomas Batte, Jr., of Henrico Co., send greeting that 8 April 1674 Thomas Batte, Sr. was granted 1862 acres on north side of Appomattox River, Part containing 900 acres, being bounded by Thomas Batte, Sr’s own land above the falls above the Appomattock Indian Town and Old Town Creek. Thomas Batte, Sr. by deed 1 June 1678 conveyed to Col. John Farrar, since dec’d, 200 acres of above land; and said Farrar by will dated 4 March 1684 gave to Thomas Batte, Jr. the said 200 acres. Now we sell to William Byrd, Esq., all the above land. 1 Dec. 1686. With.: Pet. Field, Richard Kennon. Sighed: Thomas Batte, Thomas Batte, Jr. Recorded 1 Dec. 1686. Mary, wife of Thomas, Sr., relinquished her dower right by her attorney Henry Randolph."

posted by John C. Fox
edited by John C. Fox
Thanks for the extra information about the date. I think the position remains that this was probably just routine legal business.
posted by Michael Cayley
I had added that record and some others in the last few months. Will point out that Judith Soane married Henry Randolph (Sr.) and 2nd Peter Field. Peter Field appears with Thomas Batte in a number of instances above. I wondered if there might be a connection to the Soanes more so than the Randolph’s, but who knows. I didn’t include it above, but I find Henry Randolph was a witness to a Thomas Batte record in 1689. And Peter Field and Henry Batte (Thomas’s brother) witness a deed of William Byrd in 1686.

Henrico record concerning Henry Randolph (Jr.): Judith Field makes her lovingly son Henry Randolph her attorney to relinquish her dower right in land sold by my husband Peter Field to James Frankling. Wit.: Rich. Kennon, J. Griffin. 1 Aug 1689.

posted by A. Batts
Yeah, seems like some sort of relationship. Thank you so much for this info!

Dectective work like this is hard but can be rewarding. I just found my connection to this group through the Wards of Amelia Co.(Henry, Richard, Seth etc) after years of a complete blank.

posted by John C. Fox
Seems like there is some good info out there. The puzzle just needs to be put together.

Judith, daughter of Henry & Judith, born at Appam: 29 Jul 1671 baptized y* 6tb of August in ye parsh church by Mr. Bichd Morris - Sponsors Wm Soane Mrs Mary Batte Mrs Amy Bedill. “Descendants of Henry Randolph.” The William and Mary College Quarterly Historical Magazine, vol. 4, no. 2, 1895, pp. 125–27. JSTOR, https://doi.org/10.2307/1915057. Accessed 12 Apr. 2024. NOTE: Mrs Amy Bedill is almost certainly Amy Beville.

27 Mar 1676 Essex Beville and Thomas Webster agree to line between Mentions Old Town Cr., cart path from George Archer’s to the mill, land formerly in occupation of Henry Crowder and Godfrey Ragsdale’s land; wit: Simon Tildesley and Nich. Dison; signed Thomas Webster; presented in court by Thomas Batte, who married executrix of Essex Beville, decd. rec. 1 June 1689 (Will and Deed Book 1688-1697, p. 70) NOTE: Thomas later married AMY Beville after Mary's death.

William's father, Henry Soane, received a grant of land in Virginia which was recorded in 1651 for transport of 6 persons: Henry Soane, Sr. (self), Henry Soane, Jr., Judith Soane, Sr. (wife), Judith Soane, Jr., John Soane, and Elizabeth Soane.[6] The only children born in England were Henry Soane, Jr., Judith Soane, Jr., John Soane, and Elizabeth Soane. William must have been born after their arrival in Henrico County, Virginia. Strutton-11 19:23, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

Here's my theory: William, Mary, and Amy Soane were the Virginia born children of Henry Soane and Judith Fuller. You may have come to the same conclusion already.

posted by John C. Fox
edited by John C. Fox
Interesting to find Mary Batte as a sponsor to the 1671 baptism of a child of Henry Randolph and Judith (Soane) Randolph Field. That certainly suggests a family connection before Peter Field came into the picture as Judith’s second husband.

I can’t help but think the unplaced Thomas Batts (who must differ from either the Thomas Batte of this profile or his son Thomas Batte Jr.) that purchased land from Henry Soanes (Jr.) in or prior to 1674 somehow factors in. I left a section titled “Earlier Thomas Batts, Soanes Connection” in this profile. This unplaced Thomas Batts had executrix Elizabeth and its conjectured Henry Soanes Sr.’s daughter Elizabeth married John Peterson. It has crossed my mind as to whether these could be the same Elizabeth, but that is wild speculation.

The 20th of November 1674: “Judgment is granted Mr Henry Soanes Against Mrs Eliz: Batts Extrix of Mr Tho: Batts Deced for payment of Two Thoufand of Tobacco and Caske w'h Cofts, it being in ^t of the faid Batts his Obligacon to the Said Soanes for Land Sold by the Said Soanes to the faid Mr Batts”

As for “Amy Bedill” who was also a sponsor at the baptism, it has been a long time since I looked at it but I think this Amy Beville also married a Kent. And then married again either a Thomas Bott or Thomas Batte by 1 June 1689 as you cited. The will of John Farrar written in 1684/5 asks that his executors give Mrs. Amy Kent a ring of 12-15 shillings price. Farrar’s will also names Thomas Batte Sr. and Jr., as well as Batte’s three daughters by name. William Randolph is among witnesses to that will.

posted by A. Batts
Thanks, A Batts. This exchange is straying off what is appropriate for comments on this profile.

On Amy widow of Essex Beville who married Henry Kent and Thomas Botte - not Batte - please see the comment section on the profile of Thomas's wife Mary. There was a separate Botte family in Virginia in this time.

I will be moving the very lengthy section on an earlier Thomas Batte to a free-space page, and messaging you.

posted by Michael Cayley
edited by Michael Cayley
A d.o. of Thomas Batte is shows as Batte-195. There is a Batte-180 whom I manage who is part of an unmerged match https://www.wikitree.com/index.php?title=Special:MergePerson&user1_name=Batte-195&user2_name=Batte-180&action=compare.

Additional info has been posted to Batte-180 that provides soem source documentation that differentiates Batte-195 to Batt3-180 enough to suggest that they are two separate persons as otherwise similar they may be.

Just wondering in the project cold take a peak and perhaps determine if the pending merge should be rejected.

Thanks,

Pete

posted by Pete Toemmes Jr.
Thanks for asking. The two Sarahs have different husbands and children. Please see the research notes on this profile, the profile of Mary Randolph https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Randolph-800 and the profile of Sarah Batte-180, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Batte-180. I have rejected the merge.
posted by Michael Cayley
There are some "suggestions" in the Data Doctor report regarding inconsistencies with Wikidata. I, and many others, tend to hold Wikidata in low esteem but at the same time, it never hurts to correct a source when the opportunity presents itself.

Fixing Wikidata can be easily done, but I would propose that the best solution would be to create Thomas's wife on WIkiTree as "Mary Unknown" and then I can make sure that Wikidata only has that one wife and not "Mary Jennings" or "Mary Randolph" and have the Wikidata for "Mary Unknown" point to the WikiTree version. Obviously, I could go ahead and create a WikiTree profile for Mary but attaching her as the spouse is limited to project leaders given the PPP status.

posted by [Living Anderson]
Thanks, Thom. As a Magna Carta and Medieval Project Leader, I do not always create profiles for a spouse whose last name at birth is not known, but I have now done so in this case. Like you, I have a low regard for Wikidata suggestions, especially for pre-1700 and pre-1500 profiles, and normally give them scant time or attention - life is too short, there are hundreds if not thousands of them for the Projects I lead, and for me they are a low priority. Please do fix the Wikidata suggestions for Mary if you wish.
posted by Michael Cayley
edited by Michael Cayley
Seventeenth Century Colonial Ancestors, Vol. 1, Pg 18 lists Thomas BATTE (1630- ) as a Burgess, Military Service and married to Mary RANDOLPH
posted by Robin White
See research notes above - lnab randolph is unsourced.
posted by Traci Thiessen
Source named above published by National Society of Colonial Dames XVII Century
posted by Robin White
I have, though, now mentioned this list in the research notes.
posted by Michael Cayley
I plan to do some work soon on this profile for the Magna Carta Project
posted by Michael Cayley
I have now finished the main work I currently intend on Thomas Batte. If anyone spots any typos etc, please either correct them or message me.

I have detached the two Marys who were shown as his wife, because of the absence of reliable evidence, and added research notes to their profiles and to profiles of relevant family members, including this profile.

posted by Michael Cayley
His will written 6 June 1695 can be found at:

Charles City County Order Book, 1694-1700, Page 299, citing will of Thomas Batte. Digital images: Library of Virginia, Digital Collections, http://digitool1.lva.lib.va.us:8881/R/-?func=dbin-jump-full&object_id=1289053 Pages 100-199, image 21 of 100.

Thank you. I have added information from the will to the bio.
posted by Michael Cayley
Ran trail from his brother, Batte-33, to Quincy or de Vere, following "Magna Carta badged" profiles from Batte-33 to both surety barons). ~ Liz, Magna Carta project member
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Hi! I just proposed a merge with his "brother" & went to propose a merge of the daughters (Sarah m Evans) of the two Thomas Battes & found they're married to two different Evans. Do you have sources you can share for Sarah & her husband?
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
hmm. went to propose the merge of the daughters (Sarah m Evans) of the two Thomas Battes & they married two different Evans. Anyone have sources for them?
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Batte-193 and Batte-58 appear to represent the same person because: new duplicate - same parents/married to same woman/both with daughter Sarah m Evans. Please merge.
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
update: merge completed

Batte-58 and Batte-182 appear to represent the same person because: figured out where the earlier birth date had come from (baptism record for the Henry who died young) and changed it. These profiles can now be merged. Thanks!

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
aha. Henry was baptized 13 August 1628, not Thomas. Entry is listed here, but link is to Ancestry page (subscription required).

(Henry died 1629.)

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Batte-182 and Batte-58 are not ready to be merged because: Hi Peter! The dates for these are just off enough that I'm worried they're two different people. Could you post your sources & anything else you know about Thomas Batte-182? Thanks!
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Batte-182 and Batte-58 appear to represent the same person because: I am wrkign on my cousin connection to Lynn Lea Arnold and believe from her Ancestry tree and first hand accounts that Batte-182 and Batte-58 are the same person. She is descended from Sarah "Sallie" Batte Evans and I am Descended from Mary Batte Jones. The discrepancy in birth dates appears to come from Lynns discovery Ancestry's reference to "Thomas Batte Sr

in the Global, Find A Grave Index for Burials at Sea and other Select Burial Locations, 1300s-Current".

Thanks

posted by Pete Toemmes Jr.

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