Andrew Turvey

Ancestors

Son of Peter Rodney Henry Turvey and Margaret (Tulloch) Turvey

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Biography

Andrew Turvey was born in 1977, the son of Peter and Margaret Turvey in Salisbury, Rhodesia (now Harare, Zimbabwe).^[1]

Sources

1. ↑ Birth certificate in possession of Turvey-154

• DNA Confirmation: Paternal relationship is confirmed by an MyHeritage test match between Andrew Turvey and two grandchildren of Florence Turvey, his cousin twice removed. Their most-recent common ancestors are William Turvey (bef.1834-1898) and Hannah (Whatmore) Turvey (1838-). Predicted relationship from MyHeritage: (1 P.T.) 3rd cousin (19.0%), based on sharing 58.0 cM across 4 segments; (2 D.C.) 3rd cousin (26.8%), based on sharing 83.9 cM across 4 segments;

A fourth cousin relationship is possible between Andrew Turvey, D.C and J.J.W. They share two segments of 21.5cM and 14.2cM. MyHeritage predicts relationships of 4th cousins between these three individuals. It's unclear what the paper trail is from JJW to William Turvey or Hannah Whatmore.

• DNA Confirmation: Paternal relationship is also confirmed by Triangulated MyHeritage test match between

1. Andrew Turvey, the great great grandson of Aaron Duffield (abt.1788-1842)'s son Thomas Duffield (1840-1905);
2. The daughter of Frederick Edward Jones (1925-2018), who is the great grandson of Aaron's daughter Ann Eliza Duffield (1835-);
3. The grand-daughter of Violet (Bell) Lay (1916-2000), who is the grand daughter Ann Eliza Duffield; Two segments are shared between all three people of 15.5cM and 11.8cM respectively.

Family History Interest

I have been researching my family tree since about 1985 - and things have changed enormously since then! At first, I had a few hundred names, mostly derived from conversations with great aunts and uncles and family bibles that had been passed down the generations.

I restarted my research in 2009, when my first child was born. Initially I wanted to create a printed family tree as a keepsake, but I quickly discovered the power of the internet, in particular the digitised census records on ancestry and the various pedigrees online. In a short timescale I quickly expanded my tree into over 5,000 names.

Having been an active contributor to Wikipedia since 2005, it made sense for me to join a free wiki, so I chose the then-largest one, WeRelate. [1] I have been active there ever since, expanding my genealogical work beyond my own family to also cover a "surname study" for my own surname, Turvey, and my mother's surname, Tulloch. [2][3][4] I have also managed to link my mother's ancestry to scottish noble families and, through them, to scottish royalty and most of the royalty of europe. So my family tree now tops more than 10,000 people!

In 2016 I started using WikiTree. The main drivers are the apparent financial problems on WeRelate, accompanied by a growth rate that has ground to a halt and a lack of development.

My experience of WikiTree (so far) is largely positive:
- the size is significantly larger, and this has already meant I have had many more family connections than on WeRelate - comparable to my experience of Ancestry
- the approach to older genealogy is more nuanced than the blanket prohibition on WeRelate, albeit there are significant quality complaints on both
- there is the same desire for quality genealogy, but WikiTree seems to have more positive ways to achieve this
- the manual entry is easier, in particular avoiding the unwelcome "family" type between individuals
- they have found a good solution for including living people but showing them with degrees of privacy. It also means they can merge the "User" and "Person" namespaces (which are separate on werelate), which has significant benefits

The downsides are - so far - manageable, although I'll have to see whether they become more of a problem as time progresses:
- it's still too difficult for the average genealogist to get involved, I think, and much harder than commercial equivalents. That will - at some stage - limit its development potential
- WikiTree X was a fantastic tool, but it stopped working one day for me and my repeated messages on that have fallen on deaf ears
- Perhaps reflecting this, it seems much harder compared to other wiki communities (wikipedia, werelate) to make suggestions and get a hearing. Partly I imagine this reflects the commercially-owned status.
- The community in turns seems much more hierarchical. Users are told they must collaborate with projects on pre-1700 profiles (which I dutifully do with zero benefit). Project leaders set conditions which members have to fulfil to join and then arrogate rights to control certain profiles. Does this result in a better quality website? Perhaps, but I find it quite tiresome myself.

I am looking forward to my time on this site and hopefully the overall good experiences will continue!

My Ancestors Research Statistics

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