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Louise (Wall) Mackey (abt. 1755 - abt. 1831)

Louise Mackey formerly Wall
Born about in Colony of Virginiamap
Daughter of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Wife of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died about at about age 76 in Knox, Kentucky, United Statesmap
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Biography

Louise Wall was born about 1755, in Washington County, Virginia, daughter of Mathis (Mathias) Wall. She married Elias Mackey.

Louise died in 1831 and was buried in Mackey Cemetery, Mackey Bend, Knox County, Kentucky, United States.[1]

Note

Note from FindAGrave: "Our Elias named his firstborn son Alexander, most likely after his father or his grandfather." "Alexander Mackey and Jurien (Dutch for George) Quick were enrolled as members of the Foot Company of the Military of the Precinct of the Highlands" (E. M. Ruttenber's "Newburgh," p. 273, and DHNY 4:237)

Sources

  1. Burial: "U.S., Find a Grave® Index, 1600s-Current"
    Find A Grave: Memorial #40924839
    Ancestry Record 60525 #21481220 (accessed 24 April 2024)
    Louise Mackey burial (died in 1831) in Mackey Cemetery, Mackey Bend, Knox County, Kentucky, United States of America. Born in 1755.
  • Quick, Arthur Craig. A Genealogy of the Quick Family in America (1625-1942) 317 years. South Haven and Palisades Park, Mich.: Priv. pub. by A. C. Quick. 1942. page 41: "ELIAS MACKEY (D41) Baptized Feb 13 1742/43, as the 'son of Alex. Maucke & Rymerick Kwik.' Wit: Simon Freer and Catherine (Van) Bunschoten. Reformed Dutch Church, Poughkeepsie NY.


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Wall-665 and Wall-3735 are not ready to be merged because: Not enough info to complete merge.
posted on Wall-3735 (merged) by Kelly (Sullivan) Rishor
Wall-3735 and Wall-665 appear to represent the same person because: Same name, same husband, same death date and place
posted on Wall-3735 (merged) by Neal Parker
I am waffling a bit on these merge proposals. I continue to think there was only one Louise Wall, but I think there may have been two different men named Elias Mackey.

I think that Elias Mackey was the son of Alexander Mackie (an immigrant from Scotland or an Ulster Scot who came from Ireland, whose name was spelled in strange ways by Dutch people in New York, such as Maucke) and Reymerich Kwik who was baptized in 1743 in Rhinebeck Flats, New York (this baptism is recorded), and that he married, had children, and lived in New York (where he was recorded in the 1790 census and was assessed tax in 1799 and 1800 for modest amounts of personal property) until some time after 1800 (when the census recorded him in New York).

I do not know if he was the same Elias Mackey who served in militia in Virginia and paid supply tax there in 1783. (See Daughters of the American Revolution, DAR Genealogical Research Databases, database online, (http://www.dar.org/ : accessed 10 Nov 2020), "Record of Elias Mackey", Ancestor # A072915.) It is not impossible, as there was more than a little migration between Ulster County, New York, and western Virginia in those years. If these were the same man, he returned to New York for while before removing to Kentucky before 1810 (when the census recorded him in Knox County, Kentucky). The Elias Mackey with Rev War service in Virginia settled in Knox County, Kentucky, where he was recorded with a land grant in 1813 (possibly a land grant he received as a Revolutionary War veteran) and where he died in 1817.

The simplest explanation of the evidence is that there were two different men named Elias Mackey.

posted on Wall-3735 (merged) by Ellen Smith
Yes, I was coming to the same conclusion, Ellen. The son Mathew for Elias Makee has not been mentioned in any records for Elias Mackey. I also don't believe Louise was married twice. There is a book cited on this profile, I just haven't had time to review the sources from that angle.
posted on Wall-3735 (merged) by Kelly (Sullivan) Rishor
Wall-3735 and Wall-665 do not represent the same person because: After another review, I'm uncertain these are the same woman. The birth location on Wall was supposed to be Virginia. and the birth dates are years apart.
Wall-3735 and Wall-665 appear to represent the same person because: Both of these are a girl named Louise Wall, born in Scotland or Virginia or maybe New York (profiles are inconsistent), who married a man named Elias who lived in Ulster County, New York, and went with him to Kentucky, where she died in Mackey Bend in Knox County, in or about 1831. If two profiles are intended to represent the same person, we are supposed to merge them. Neither profile is well-endowed with decent sources, but I believe these are intended to represent the same person (I cannot believe there were two Louise Walls with matching biographies).

The two different spellings for the last name of her husband should not prevent merging. Spelling was not standardized in the 1700s, many people could not write, and many records were created by people who wrote phonetic renditions of the names that they heard pronounced. Furthermore, the people who created records often had a different language background from the people whose names they were recording, which resulted in a diverse variety of spellings. With that background, it is easy to see that Mackey and McKee are simply variant spellings of the same name. I speculate that it might have been pronounced mack-KEE or MACK-kee, and different clerks wrote it down in different ways. We should record both spellings (and any others that turn up) in the profiles.

posted by Ellen Smith
Wall-3735 and Wall-665 are not ready to be merged because: Not enough details to continue to merge at this time. The last name of the husband needs review.
Wall-3735 and Wall-665 appear to represent the same person because: Same name, similar life dates, same husband. The life details are flaky (inconsistent within a single profile, was well as between the two profiles), but it is hard to avoid concluding that the two profiles both are intended to represent the same person.
posted by Ellen Smith

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