Robert Tiffner
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Robert Tiffner

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Robert C. Tiffner
Born 1940s.
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I was born in 1941 to one of the most gentle, kindest, and wisest men I have ever known. My Mother would agree. We lost him at age 57 from the hazards of coal mining. I was born and raised at Gallagher on Paint Creek, West Virginia. One could still see damage to the creek. I can also recall looking out from my front porch on a clear day and seeing smoke coming from the side of the mountain. It was said that this fire was inside the mountain and had been burning since the Civil War. My parents and I left West Virginia just after my high school graduation in 1959. The clean-up of Paint Creek began in about 1990 and it is now a fine trout stream. The Iroquois Indians used a prehistoric route along Paint Creek and would set up their camps next to Paint Creek. They celebrated their victories by painting the trees to represent their slain enemies after a raiding party, thus the name Paint Creek. They traveled as far as upper New York to Virginia and North Carolina on raiding parties. On one of his survey trips, George Washington noted a large war party of Indians along the creek. The creek is rich with history of events from over the years. Paint Creek ran north from Raleigh County for 41 miles to the influence of the Kanawha River at Pratt, West Virginia, where I attended Jr. High School. I had no idea that my fifth great-grandfather William R. Morris (1722 - 1792) built and sold flat-bottom boats to travelers to navigate the Kanawha River to the Ohio River and then the Mississippi River from the mid-1750s. My fourth great-grandfather was the first settler along a large stretch of land which included several miles along Paint Creek. The town was first called Mucklow but was changed to Gallagher after the 1912 mine strike. It was suggested that the reputation from the strike was the reason for the change. Coal mines opened in 1852 which changed Paint Creek for the worse. It is said that the water was red from the acid that leached into the creek. The waste from the mines poisoned the water so there were no fish within it's banks. The 1912 coal mine strike was known as the largest union strike in the nation. Governor Hatfield called out the military. It is estimated the cost of the strike, not counting the lives lost, was over one hundred million dollars.

A few years before the Revolutionary War, Col Lewis came down the Paint Creek path on their way to Point Pleasant on the Ohio River to fight the English supplied Indians. They had raided the settlers for years. He came through by John Jones' home and then proceeded downstream to William Morris' home to obtain flat bottom boats for the trip. He recruited these men plus some of their relatives to join in the fight. This battle was a predecessor of the Revolutionary War. It was a shock to find out that the road signs telling of the local heroes were my Ancestors. I would pitch rocks at the signs as I stood by the roadside waiting on a ride as I hitch-hicked around the area in my youth.





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It looks like you have created several Pre-1700 profiles using family tree sites with no other sources. These are not reliable sources for Pre 1700 profiles. Please review Help page for Citing Reliable Sources on Pre-1700 Profiles
posted by Linda (Carruth) Peterson
edited by Linda (Carruth) Peterson
Hello Robert,

Congratulations on certifying to work on pre-1700 profiles! It’s very important to read and understand the Help:Pre-1700 Profiles page. These profiles for deep ancestors are shared by many, and collaborating on them works best if we all follow the guidelines in the certification quiz.

Primary sources should always be added to pre-1700 profiles at the time they are created. If you don't have a source for a pre-1700 profile, it would be best to ask for help in the G2G forum before creating the profile.

Kathy ~ WikiTree Pre-1700 Greeter

posted by Kathy (Urbach) Nava
Hi Bob - I should have explained why I had read the article in the first place; I have McKees on my interest list as my great grandmother was one, but the other element is that you appear to have ancestors from County Antrim in Ulster. I don't think there is any direct family connection, but it was of interest nonetheless. Our lot came from the Scottish Lowlands/Galloway area, settling in Co Down, in Ulster, basically next door to Co Antrim, and I was amazed to find that, even after 6 or more generations having been born and bred in Ulster, I still carry 75% DNA from that area in Scotland, and only 25% from Ulster. I know DNA can be a funny thing, but I thought it would have to be DNA through the male side to get such a strong reading for a specific area. I just wondered how your DNA turned out as I did an Ancestry one too, and I thought it was quite good. The strange thing is, a second cousin who also has strong connections to the Scottish side of the family came up with a very disappointing DNA reading from a different site (I think it was My Heritage). There must have been a right crowd of McKees who came to Ireland in the mid to late 1600s because of religious persecution; many of our McKees emigrated to Pennsylvania in the early 1700s; I think yours had more of a pioneering spirit as they went earlier! I still have a strong affiliation for Scotland; it always feels like home.
posted by Rosamund (Boal) Martin
Couldn't resist thanking you for the unusual find of a McKee signing a marriage bond at 90 - does it mean what I think it means! I just went to the profile and read your notes - I found this a fascinating piece of info - it made me smile
posted by Rosamund (Boal) Martin
edited by Rosamund (Boal) Martin
Robert , If you would like to provide proof of Judith Burke as the wife of Patrick Napier Sr 1726-1800 then please share with the masses. I can tell You for a fact that You have zero evidence of this. I can also provide You with proof beyond measure that Patrick Napier Sr was married to Ann Franklin. Also it is interesting while the Burke lady gets credit for Patrick Napier's kids in the fake genealogical world out there, How come all their kids are named after the Napier and Franklin family? Most of the girls are named after the Franklin's in Ann' Sisters, in Joice, Dicey, Lucy, and one named after Ann Herself while the oldest son is named after Ann's father Edmund Franklin Sr in theirs son Edmund Napier born in 1753-1834. I can show you while Patrick Napier Sr and Ann Franklin Napier were living in Bedford County in 1767 court records , single Ms. Judith Burke was listed in August Deeds in 1767 as Judy Burke and not married. At this same time Patrick Napier 's Youngest son Patrick Napier Jr was being born in Bedford County, Virginia to Patrick and His wife Ann Franklin. The family of Patrick Napier never lived in Augusta County and they never were in the same county as these Burkes until they left Fluvanna County, Virginia in August of 1782 and by that time all of Patrick Napier's children were already born to Ann Franklin. I have done the research and have been doing so for over 25 years. So please if You are going to add a wife to my Patrick Napier's Sr profile, You better provide the proof. She does not belong there. Judith Burke may be a fine woman but there is no reason to believe she was the wife of Patrick Napier Sr and if she married Him late after 1782 , she is not the mother of any of His kids. But the fact remains there is no reason to believe He ever had a 2nd wife .There is only one proven wife and that is all You can we can go by. There is no reason to wish for a 2nd. But please feel free to provide Your evidence. I removed Judith Burke because after 1767 she in not ever listed in any records that I can ever find. She is not a factor in Napier genealogy. As for Nancy Ann Napier King , aka Ann Napier King , she was named after Her mother Ann Franklin Napier. I would start to question everything You have been told about the Napier History. Another strong indication on How the Franklin family took hold on this Napier line is in the Name.. Patrick Napier and Ann Franklin's 2nd son Thomas Hughes Napier named a daughter Elleanor after His grandmother Franklin. Elleanor Franklin who was married to Edmund Franklin Sr and was the mother of Ann Franklin the wife of Patrick Napier Sr. There is no records showing any connection between the Napier's and Burkes , not one Bond, not one court record or anything of them doing any commerce or anything together. The only connection between the Napier and Burke family is the Mccomas family and that is not proof of a marriage. Three of Patrick Napier Sr and Ann Franklin's girls in Dicey, Lucy and Judith married Mccomas boys of David and Catherine Burke Mccomas. That is the only connection. Nothing more. And this was way after 1785.
posted by Greg Napier
edited by Greg Napier
Hi Robert, It looks like you may have some outstanding merges that need attention. You can find them by following the link at the top of this page under >My Wikitree>Watchlist, then hit the button that says Pending Merges. If you need help, just ask.

Thanks for helping with Wikitree

posted by Robin Lee
God Bless America, I SO agree with your sentiment on our ancestor's choice to move here. I just merged Jacob https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Pickenpaugh-5 and got a more accurate Date of Death. Also linked New Potential DNA links. And it appears you need to get a post a yDNA test... Please.... hahahaaa.... Best of luck on your Family Tree and Nice to Meet you, cuz.... Just cus, Thomas James Teters.
posted by Thomas Teters
Hi Thomas I never met a Pickenpaugh/Teter I did not like. I don't now if I ever met one though? Whatcha talking about post yDNA? I started this project over fifty years ago. Am I left behind? My way of communication was to stand on the front porch in West Virginia and hollow to the neighbors to the North or south and send a message by relay for several miles. It did not take very long to get a message across country. Keep up the good fight cuz, Bob
posted by Robert Tiffner
yDNA is the male side of the genetic code.. I had my done several years ago by Family Tree, cost about $99, and found my haplotype was G2a2b2a1, you can see on my Wiki Profile Teters-24. Helps those in the future connect. Just cuz, TomT Have a Happy New Year, if you can.
posted by Thomas Teters
Hello, Robert,

Thank you so much for responding to our check-in for the Miltary and War Project.

We are sorry to hear that you are not currently active, but we understand that life happens and interests shift as we grow our shared tree and that some members may have moved on to projects more pertinent to the branches they are currently building. Please know that you will always be welcome to rejoin should your interests shift back in this direction.

Thank you so much for your participation; we genuinely appreciate it.

Deb ~ Volunteer Coordinator

posted by Deb (Lewis) Durham
Hello, Robert,

On behalf of the Military and War Project Leaders, we are doing a six-month check-in with members.

First, we want to thank you for your past participation in the Military and War Project. We appreciate your desire to honor your ancestors for their service to their countries, or even for your service, wherever in the world. We hope that your membership has enhanced your WikiTree experience.

Please let me know, by commenting on my profile or sending a private message, if you are still active in the project, and if so, in which ways you have contributed to the main project or a sub-project within the last two months.

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Deb ~ Volunteer Coordinator

posted by Deb (Lewis) Durham
Hi Bob,

Here is your project. I will link it to the Civil War Project Page.

The way I found it was to go to your watchlist and click space pages. It is there. Others cannot see your watchlist but as a leader, I can. M

Thanks for the New Mexico Project!

Paula

posted by Paula J
Hi Robert,

Can you please take a look at the research notes I left on Peter Reidenbach? He's attached as the son to two profiles you manage. Let me know what you think. Thanks, Cindy

posted by Cindy Vincens
Hi Robert, Thank you for the note!

I proposed a merge of Leonard Author Tiffner (Tiffner-88) and Redd Tiffner (Tiffner-119) your cousin. Since you each manage one of the profiles you and he will need to approve and complete the merge. Click here for Merging Help. The new profile will need to be cleaned up after the merge by removing the second biography and source section.

David ~ WikiTree Mentor

posted by David Selman
Hi

Wish you a Happy New Year. May 2018 bring you all you need to be happy.

Congratulation for adding your contributions in December. Whatever the quantity of your contributions, they all count. As I always say "Quality is better than quantity" to make a great family tree.

Thank you for being a Wikitreer,

Guy Constantineau - Wikitree leader

Hi Robert, Thank you for the note and question!

WikiTree does not use your DNA test results only the GEDMacth ID you received when you registered your test.

I see you show to have entered your DNA GEDMatch ID and have added family/ancestors. The short answer is, the DNA information will automatically filter through eight generations of your family in the tree.

As I stated in our previous conversation I have not taken any of the DNA test and suggest if you still have questions on DNA contact one of the DNA mentors after you have read the DNA Help Pages.

DNA Mentors: Veronica Williams or Emma MacBeath

David ~ WikiTree Greeter, Mentor

posted by David Selman
Robert,

I added John Hood military Records as source.

https://www.fold3.com/image/17104898

Hood-3359

Robert,

I have Question for you. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tolley_Hood_Worthington

Is this the same Hannah Barnes and John Hood Jr listed in your tree?

Barnes-12078 and Hood-3359 if so can you put as source for them. I put it in and decided to take out and ask as I Belong to Sarah Hood Obrian lines never saw she had 2 husbands but will ask on her profile. Billie

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