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Emma (Peltier) Pelletier (abt. 1846 - 1917)

Emma Pelletier formerly Peltier
Born about in Lafayette, Lafayette, Louisiane, États-Unismap
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Died at about age 71 in Lafayette, Lafayette, Louisiana, United Statesmap
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Emma (Peltier) Pelletier lived in Louisiana.

Emma Pelletier daughter of Jean Edouard Pelletier (1813 - 1863) and Marguerite Celese Breaux (1821 - 1849) was born about January 1846 in Lafayette, Lafayette Parish, Louisiana.

Emma Pelletier did not marry Zephirin Begnaud. They had many children together while he was still married to his wife. Zephirin was living with his wife and children in the 1870 St. Martin Parish, Louisiana census.

Their known children were:

  1. Apolina Begnaud (1865 - ? )[1]
  2. Apollenosine Begnaud (1869 - ?)[2]
  3. Hypolite Begnaud (1870 - 1942)[3]
  4. Adolphina (Begnaud) Domingue (~1872 - 1950)
  5. Ambroise Begnaud (1874 - 1942)[4]
  6. Hermance (Begnaud) Dugas (1876 - 1967)
  7. Angela A (Begnaud) Domingue (1882 - 1952)[5]

By 1870, in St. Martin, Emma was living with her children. Zephirin Begnaud was not listed in the household.[6] By 1880. in St. Martin, Emma was living with her children.[7] By 1900, in St. Martin, Emma was living with her son, Ambroise, and his family.[8]

Emma Pelletier died on 27 November 1917 at age 71 in Lafayette Parish, Louisiana.[9]

Find A Grave: Memorial #182145534 is for Emma Pelletier Begnaud.

DNA

  • Maternal relationship is confirmed through Mitochondrial DNA test results on Family Tree DNA. Christy Woodward, FTDNA Kit # B884943, and her maternal line cousin UNK (a direct matrilineal descendant of Marie Caroline Bourg), Kit # 96844, have an exact HVR1, HVR2, and coding region match, thereby confirming their direct maternal lines back to their most-recent common ancestor who is Jeanne Aucoin, the 10x great grandmother of Christy Woodward and the 9x grandmother of UNK. See this diagram from the Mothers of Acadia DNA Project for more information.

Sources

  1. ↑ "Louisiana Births and Christenings, 1811-1830, 1854-1934", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FWGF-M56 : 14 January 2020), Emma Pelletier in entry for Apollina Begnaud, 1865.
  2. ↑ PELLETIER, Apollenosine (Emma) b. 26 Sept. 1869 (BB Ch.: v. 1, p. 97) (Emma) b. 26 Sept. 1869 (BB Ch.: v. 1, p. 97)
  3. ↑ "Louisiana Deaths, 1850-1875, 1894-1960," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3Q9-W3R : 4 March 2021), Emma Peltier in entry for Hypolite Begnaud, 12 Sep 1942; citing Lafayette, Lafayette, Louisiana, certificate number 2228, State Archives, Baton Rouge; FHL microfilm 1,183,937.
  4. ↑ "Louisiana Deaths, 1850-1875, 1894-1960," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F331-XFX : 4 March 2021), Emma in entry for Ambrose Begnaud, 15 Jul 1942; citing Lafayette, Lafayette, Louisiana, certificate number 2574, State Archives, Baton Rouge; FHL microfilm 1,183,482.
  5. ↑ "Louisiana Deaths, 1850-1875, 1894-1960," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F3MM-MDC : 4 March 2021), Emma Peltier in entry for Angela Begnaud Domingue, 29 Dec 1952; citing Scott, Lafayette, Louisiana, certificate number 16851, State Archives, Baton Rouge; FHL microfilm 1,573,927.
  6. ↑ "United States Census, 1870", FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M872-DC1 : Fri Oct 06 11:25:05 UTC 2023), Entry for Emma Pelletier and Appolinaire Begnaud, 1870.
  7. ↑ "United States Census, 1880", FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MDXN-JM4 : Thu Oct 05 00:15:45 UTC 2023), Entry for Emma Peltier and Apolinaire Peltier, 1880.
  8. ↑ "United States Census, 1900", FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSR4-9SH : Tue Oct 03 22:04:16 UTC 2023), Entry for Ambrose Regmand and Eva Regmand, 1900.
  9. ↑ "Louisiana Deaths, 1850-1875, 1894-1960", FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F33X-ZFD : Sat Oct 14 02:43:16 UTC 2023), Entry for Pelltier and Edsvard Pelltier, 27 Nov 1917.




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Crockett-3764 Audrey Lee Crockett
Emma Pelletier [Peltier-1468] did not marry Joseph Maximilien Dugas. He married Emma Begnaud ]Begnaud-112] daughter of Alexandre Narcisse Begnaud and Hortense Patin, Emma Pelletier had a relationship with Zephirin Begnaud while he was married to Silvanie Angele Guilbeaux. Emma Pelletier's death record identifies her father as Edouard Pelletier. I have corrected the profiles of all involved here to reflect the correct relationships.

In 1870 St. Martin Parish, Zephirin Begnaud is living with his wife and children and Emma Pelletier is in her own household with their children. Also, the 1870, 1880, 1900 and 1910 Lafayette Parish, Louisiana census records show Emma Begnaud Dugas as widowed and living with family members. She never remarried. Emma Pelletier is also in these census records with her children from Zephirin Begnaud. Clearly, these are two different woman that have been confused.

BEGNAUD, Ema (Alexandre & Hortence PATIN) bt. 20 April 1832 at age 3 mths. [1832] (Laf. Ch.: v.3, p. 148).

BEGNAUD, Emma (Narcisse & Hortense PATIN) m. 11 May 1852 Joseph Marie DUGAS (Laf. Ch.: v.4, p.70).

Find A Grave

Emma Begnaud Dugas

BIRTH 20 Jan 1832

DEATH 11 Dec 1912 (aged 80) Lafayette, Lafayette Parish, Louisiana, USA

BURIAL Saint John Cemetery Lafayette, Lafayette Parish, Louisiana, USA

PLOT

Section 21; Tomb 5

MEMORIAL ID 153851036


DUGAS, Joseph (Maximilien & Carmelite BRASSEX [BRASSEUX]) b. 30 Jan. 1821, bt. 8 May 1821. Spons: Edouard BRASSET [BRASSEUX] - his uncle & Marie DUGAT. Fr. Hercule BRASSAC (GC Ch.: v.1, p.13).

DUGAS, Joseph Marie (Maximilien & Lucile BRASSEUX) m. 11 May 1852 Emma BEGNAUD (Laf. Ch.: v. 4, p. 70).

DUGAS, Joseph Maximilien struck by lightning d. 29 June 1858 at age 37 yrs (Laf. Ch.: v. 4, p. 71).

DUGAS, Joseph M. m. Emma BEGNAUD Succ. dated 30 Sept. 1858 (Laf. Ct. Hse.: Succ #853)

Find A Grave

Joseph Marie Dugas

BIRTH 1821

DEATH28 Jun 1858 (aged 36–37)

BURIAL Saint John Cemetery Lafayette, Lafayette Parish, Louisiana, USA

PLOT

Section 21; Tomb 5

MEMORIAL ID 155090604


Find A Grave

Emma Peltier

BIRTH 1846

DEATH 1917 (aged 70–71)

BURIAL Saint John Cemetery Lafayette, Lafayette Parish, Louisiana, USA

PLOT

Section 13, tomb 2.0

MEMORIAL ID 182145534

Louisiana, Deaths Index, 1850-1875, 1894-1956

Name: Pelltier

Event Type: Death

Event Date: 27 Nov 1917

Event Place: Lafayette, Louisiana

Gender: Female

Age: 71

Race (Original): White

Birth Year (Estimated): 1846

Father's Name: Edsvard Pelltier

Mother's Name:

Spouse's Name:

Certificate Number: 12214

GS Film number: 2364416

Digital Folder Number: 004218215

Image Number: 01515

posted by Audrey Lee Crockett
edited by Audrey Lee Crockett
Ward-9858 Stephanie Ward
Hi Christy,

You have a birth record for Emma Begnaud, and you don't have one for Emma Peletier, so why'd you merge Begnaud into Peletier? One thing to keep in mind with old south and sw Louisiana records is that women kept their LNAB after marriage, so would be listed on the record under their own name.

posted on Pelletier-3838 (merged) by Stephanie Ward
edited by Stephanie Ward
Woodward-6852 Christy Woodward
I have been working on unbraiding this mess for several days and I FINALLY figured out what the problem is. Soooooo, let me explain.

Jean Edouard Pelletier married Marguerite Celese Breaux, together they had Emma Pelletier. Emma married Joseph M Dugas but he died very young. They had five kids together. She married AGAIN to Zepharin (he was a widower(I think, but can find no record of his wife's death, so prior to his 2nd marriage) and she was a widow) They proceeded to have 6 more children together----

This one was TRULY a bear to suss out because, if you can image THIS: Emma and Joseph's son Pierre Arthur Dugas married Clarissa Guidry and they gave birth to my (maternal) Great-grandfather Moise Dugas-----BUT, after Joseph died, Emma married Zephirin and they had a daughter named Hermance Begnaud. Hermance is my (maternal) great-grandmother who married Moise Dugas.

This mess has had me stumped for over 2 years now----but it is St. Landry----and I can personally attest there is "tree collapse" in that area of Louisiana.  :)

posted on Pelletier-3838 (merged) by Christy Woodward
edited by Christy Woodward
Ward-9858 Stephanie Ward
Sorry, but we have Emma Begnaud's 1832 birth and 1852 marriage records, with her Begnaud father and Patin mother named on both, so she was a separate person, not named Pelletier.

Looking at the SWLR, Apollenosine Pelletier's 26 Sept 1869 birth names just one parent: Emma Pelletier, in Breaux Bridge; same for Hypolite Pelletier in 1870; Aldolphina in 1872; Ambroise (1873); Armanse (1876); Angella (1882). The BB and Lafayette marriage records of Adolphine, Ambroise, Apolina (to Arthur Dugas, widower of Clarisa Guidry), Harmance, all list them with their Zepherin Bagnaud and with his last name. So Emma Pelletier may have married him after 1882, or maybe didn't. Either way, she was a Pelletiere, not a Bagnaud.

Again, sorry! When asking for help in G2G, tag Louisiana and Louisiana Family and you'll get the attention of everyone in the Louisiana Project. There are beaucoup great Louisiana genealogists and researchers there!

posted on Pelletier-3838 (merged) by Stephanie Ward
edited by Stephanie Ward
Pyne-84 Nina Pyne
You have a pretty good handle on these profiles. I'll leave you to continue the unravelling. I hope someone takes the time to fix FamilySearch which is unusually messed up.
posted on Pelletier-3838 (merged) by Nina Pyne
Pyne-84 Nina Pyne
I think there is still some confusion about Begnaud-50 and Pelletier-3838 because their birth and death dates are identical, which is unlikely.
posted on Pelletier-3838 (merged) by Nina Pyne
Ward-9858 Stephanie Ward
Absolutely. Someone clearly confused the two Emmas. There is no source here for Emma Pelletier's birth or death, only for her children's births in 1865-1882. If she was born in 1832 when her mother was 10, Emma P had her first known child at 33 and last known child at age 50. More likely she was born c. 1842 and had that first child at 23 and last child at age 40.
posted on Pelletier-3838 (merged) by Stephanie Ward
Ward-9858 Stephanie Ward
Christy, now you have to do the second part, which is check the box to make the project a co-manager. Projects can't be just on the TL, so if you don't want the benefits of the project as co-manager, you'll have to remove us from the TL. Thanks.
posted on Begnaud-50 (merged) by Stephanie Ward
Woodward-6852 Christy Woodward
Okay.....she was born a Pelletier, married a Dugas---(had some children with him) he died.....she remarried to Zephirin....and some more kids....I have family by her on maternal AND Paternal sides....One of her grandsons (through Dugas) married one of her daughters (through Begnaud).....sigh....as best as I can tell
posted on Begnaud-50 (merged) by Christy Woodward
Pyne-84 Nina Pyne
So I think this is it. Ema Begnaud married Joseph Dugas and had some children. Records show her maiden name is Begnaud, so she must be the daughter of Alexander Begnaud and Hortence Patin. This aligns with the obituary published by her family. Emma Pelletier married Zephirin Begnaud as his 2nd wife. She is the daughter of Jean Edward Pelletier and Marguerite Breau. There is still an issue with her mother's age recorded as 10, though. I think this is a christening date and not a birth date.

These two individuals are entwined/conflated on FamilyTree causing the confusion.

posted on Begnaud-50 (merged) by Nina Pyne
Woodward-6852 Christy Woodward
Pelletier-3838 and Begnaud-50 are not ready to be merged because: I need SOMEONE to look at this----it is making me nuts.....
posted on Begnaud-50 (merged) by Christy Woodward
Pyne-84 Nina Pyne
Well, I had a look and I see your dilemma. I think it is clear that Emma married twice--to Dugas and then Begnaud. She has many children, with both men and she is referred to as either Pelletier, Dugas or Begnaud. There is a christening for Ema Begnaud, daughter of A.N. Begnaud and H. Patin. But the marriage record to Dugas shows her name as Begnaud. The major issue here is the age of her mother at 10 and their marriage and other children are later. There is a possible explanation of her birthdate being confused with a Christening date. It does look like she fits in with the original Pelletier profile. I think these 2 profiles can be merged, but hopefully others can take a look. Wild speculation could be that she was adopted or raised by the Pelletier family but was born to Begnaud & Patin. For what it's worth...
posted on Begnaud-50 (merged) by Nina Pyne

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