George
Palmer
Born before in Surrey, England
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of
Elizabeth (Coates) Fitzwater
— married
1660 in England
Descendants 
Father of
Elizabeth (Palmer) Jackson, George Palmer Jr, John Palmer I, Thomas Palmer and William Palmer
Died
after age 39
in At Sea
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Biography
George Palmer, son of Thomas Palmer, was baptised on 3 March 1643 in St Saviour, Southwark, Surrey, England.[1]
George's wife, Elizabeth arrived in 1682 in Pennsylvania with her daughter, Elizabeth [who eventually would marry Ralph Jackson] and four sons (George Jr, John, Thomas and William). George himself died on the voyage to the Colonies, probably from smallpox.[2]
America Land Holdings
George Palmer's will was dated 4 SEP 1682 and was apparently written on board the ship "Isabell, Anne, Katerine" [other sources called the ship the "Elizabeth, Ann, Catherine"] as that is what is specifically stated in the document. Included in it are the details for the dispersal of his purchased lands (5,000 acres) in Pennsylvania, the naming of his executors (his wife, Elizabeth, and his oldest son, George (Jr)) and the acreage amounts for each of his family (Elizabeth, his wife - 1,000 acres; Elizabeth, his daughter - 800 acres; George Jr, his son - 800 acres; John, his son - 800 acres; Thomas, his son - 800 acres and finally to William, his son - 800 acres (totaling 5,000 acres) .[3]
A dated "21, 11 mo, '93" [1693] Land Warrant and Sale: Pennsylvania Colonial Land Records; Minute Book "G" showed the detailing of the purchase and the location of the property. The document also mentions George's daughter Elizabeth who was now married to Ralph Jackson. [4]
This particular source concerns Elizabeth Fitzwater (George's wife and using her newly married surname [she married Thomas Fitzwater who came over on the "Welcome"]) and William (George's fourth son and listed as a wheel wright). In effect, Elizabeth granted to William, "on consideration of five shillings of current money of the said Province", that she would sell to William 920 of her 1,000 acres for his use. [No mention is made whether this was a montly/yearly payment.] [5]
Another Colonial Land Record, Minute Book "H" source, p 620, dated 12 SEP 1715, showed that William and Thomas [listed as "the surviving sons of George Palmer"] sold 500 acres of land to Owen Roberts [6]
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Sources
- ↑ Baptism: "London, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages and Burials, 1538-1812," database with images, London Metropolitan Archives; London, England; London Church of England Parish Registers; Reference Number: P92/SAV/3002, Ancestry Sharing Link (free access)
(Ancestry Record 1624 #1955295 : subscription required, accessed 21 January 2023)Name George Palmer Gender Male Record Type Christening (Baptism) Baptism Date 3 Mar 1643 Baptism Place St Saviour, Southwark, Surrey, England Father Thomas Palmer - ↑ Passenger List: "U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s", Place: Pennsylvania; Year: 1682; Page Number: 50, Ancestry Record 7486 #3143290 (accessed 10 July 2022)
Name Elizabeth Palmer Arrival Year 1682 Arrival Place Pennsylvania Primary Immigrant Palmer, Elizabeth Family Members Daughter Elizabeth; Son George; Son John; Son Thomas; Son William Source Publication Code 8370 Annotation This excellent work contains over 3,000 names and an index to vessels. Reprints the following articles with corrections, additions, and new materials: "The Real Welcome Passengers," by Marion Balderston (no. 242) pp. 1-26; "Pennsylvania's 1683 Ships," (no Source Bibliography SHEPPARD, WALTER LEE, JR., compiler and editor. Passengers and Ships prior to 1684. (Publications of the Welcome Society of Pennsylvania, 1.) Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1970. 245p. Reprinted by Heritage Books, Bowie, MD, 1985. Household Members Elizabeth Palmer
William Palmer
Thomas Palmer
John Palmer
George Palmer - ↑ [1]
- ↑ [2]
- ↑ [3]
- ↑ [4]
- Find a Grave, database and images (accessed 25 February 2021), memorial page for George Palmer (1640–5 Sep 1682), Find A Grave: Memorial #183003310, ; Maintained by Tom Odell (contributor 47195656) Buried or Lost at Sea, who reports a Died aboard the "Elizabeth Ann and Catherine" while sailing from England to North America.
- Sketch of George Palmer of Surrey, England: 205
- More Micheners in America, compiled by Anna E Shaddinger, Bonekemper Typesetting, Inc., Hatfield, Pennsylvania, 19440; pps 1-5; Library of Congress Catalog Card No. 72-141858, 1970 First Printing; Ancestry.com
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While there is no town in England called Nonsuch, there is a place in Surrey called Nonsuch Park, named for Nonsuch Mansion. It is on the border of Epsom and Ewell and the London Borough of Sutton. This makes it very close to Greater London, so that someone from this area, might state they are from London.
Are there any sources that point to John Palmer Sr (1641-1684) being the father of John Palmer Jr (1660-1742)?
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Palmer-5464
I’ve seen sources that name George Palmer, who died at sea, as his father.
https://www.geni.com/people/John-Palmer/6000000093941736872
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/LZ6V-4BK
In John’s description, it says that his father had already died when he sailed in 1674 (even though George died at sea in 1682). It also claims that he was born in London, but all of George’s other children born around the time were born in Surrey. As John would have been only 7 years old in 1674, it does seem unlikely that he would have sailed without his family, and I can’t find sources for this description.
However, George Palmer’s will on findagrave leaves 800 acres in Pennsylvania to his son John. John’s first record of land in this description is 100 acres in Chester County 1683, and he is described as laboring to pay his passage to America, even though he would have inherited a large amount of land if George was his father.
George’s wife and all his other children found themselves in Philadelphia, which points to his inherited land being there, but all records of John are in Chester County.
Another source with info on George’s children and wife who immigrated
https://family.laurenparlett.com/getperson.php?personID=P1753&tree=1
I’m unsure if John really did immigrate with George and his family in 1682, and the record for the 800 acres has simply been lost to time, and if fate took John to Chester instead of Philadelphia where his other family members ended up.
In this case, I have put my trust into the record of Find-A-Grave, which seems to be well documented. I am confident that George Palmer was followed by John I, John II, and John III.
When FamilySearch claims that John Palmer sailed on the Providence in 1674, they may be referring to the Providence that sailed in the same fleet as George’s ship in 1682.
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Providence%2C_sailing_of_1682
I’ve found other Quaker ancestors who worked as indentured servants to pay for their passage, so that could be how John ended up nearby in Chester. Thinking more about George’s will, I realized that John wouldn’t have been able to make money from the 800 acres right away, and he probably had a labor contract that had been made back home in England.
Thanks for your help! The Palmers were interesting folks.
edited by Travis Kingston