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Nehemiah Ogden (bef. 1616 - abt. 1713)

Nehemiah [uncertain] Ogden
Born before in Middleton, Lancashire, Englandmap
Son of and [mother unknown]
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Died about after about age 96 in Wrexham, Denbighshire, Walesmap
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Biography

Nehemiah was a Friend (Quaker)

Nehemiah Ogden, the son of Richard Ogden was baptized at Middleton St. Leonard's, Lancashire, England on 1 September 1616.[1] He was resident in Wrexham, Denbignshore, Wales when he died on died on 18 April 1713 and was buried at Wrexham on 20 June 1713.[2][3]

Nehemiah married more than once. The name of his earlier wife or wives is not known. His last wife was Sarah Wilde of Oldham in Lancashire, whom he married without the consent of the Monthly Meeting held in Middlewich, Cheshire on 31 July 1702 (27th of 9th month 1702).[4] Consent was withheld in consideration of his age (86) at the time.

His son David Ogden was baptized on 4 January 1650 in Chester St. Peter's, Cheshire, England.[5] Nehemiah's residence is not given in this record.

Nehemiah probably had another son named Nehemiah Ogden who died on 14 June 1681 (14th of 4th month 1681) as recorded in the Worcestershire Monthly Meeting minutes.[6] The son's death is often conflated with his father's, although subsequent records show that his father lived until 1713.

Pennsylvania records indicate that Nehemiah may have had two daughters, Hannah and Sarah, sisters of his son David.[7]

Late in life Nehemiah (age 86) married Sarah Wilde of Oldham (age 67) without the consent of his Monthly Meeting. Nehemiah was said to be of the Rodulph (Rudolph?) Meeting when on 26 June 1702 he first presented his intention to marry Sarah Wilde who belonged to the Oldham Meeting in Lancashire. On 31 Jul 1702 their second presentment was laid before the Meeting, but the Meeting found that Nehemiah had gone contrary to the desires of the yearly meeting, and considering his age and other circumstances, desired that he would desist. The saga continued with subsequent Meetings on the 27 November 1702 and the 25 December 1702 calling for Nehemiah to produce his marriage certificate and subsequently recording Nehemiah's failure to appear. Finally, on 29 January 1703, the marriage certificate was presented and on 26 February 1703 it was forwarded to the next Quarterly Meeting to be recorded.[4]

On 27 June 1707, at the Monthly Meeting held in Wrexham, the "condition of our poor Friend Nehemyah Ogden & his wife was laid before this Meeting they both being very ancient & thereby not able to get their living, & little to Subsist upon, & it is ordered by this meeting that John James see to those condition & supply them with what they want & give an account to our next Monthly Meeting." Subsequently money was disbursed periodically up until Nehemiah's death on 18 June 1713.[8]

His widow, Sarah Wilde died on 1 December 1727 at the age of 92 and was buried at Wrexham.[9][10]

Research Note

Nehemiah the son of Richard Ogden of Middleton in Lancashire

The Quaker Nehemiah Ogden of Wrexham, Wales, was probably the same Nehemiah Ogden who was the son of Richard Ogden of Middleton, Lancashire. The record found for this Nehemiah who baptized in 1616 in Middleton is the only birth record thus far identified that remotely fits with the Nehemiah buried in Wrexham in 1713. The next earlier record found thus far is for Nehemiah baptized at Oldham, the son of Paul Ogden of Hollinwood.[11] Hollinwood is nearby to Middleton, perhaps indicating that this area is the nexus for the name Nehemiah in this Ogden family.

Furthermore, Quaker records in Cheshire clearly show that his last wife, Sarah Wilde was from Oldham. Oldham is adjacent to Middleton and the two are so closely related that Middleton parish is frequently referenced as Middleton by Oldham.

Nehemiah the father of David Ogden the Quaker

Nehemiah's placement as the father of David Ogden the Quaker is circumstantial, based on his residence at Wrexham, in Wales, near Middletown, and the fact that his son David's birth record coincides will with the birth date expected for David the Quaker. For a full discussion of this relationship, please see the Research Note on David Ogden the Quaker's profile.

Sources

FamilySearch Person: L4D8-W9Y

  1. Baptism: "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
    citing Digital film/folder number: 7; FHL microfilm: 844796
    FamilySearch Record: J7ML-7QB (accessed 4 January 2024)
    Nehemiah Ogden baptism on 1 Sep 1616, son of Richard Ogden, in Middleton, Lancashire, England.
  2. Burial: "England & Wales, Quaker Birth, Marriage, and Death Registers, 1578-1837"
    The National Archives; Kew, England; General Register Office: Society of Friends' Registers, Notes and Certificates of Births, Marriages and Burials; Class: RG 6; Piece: 1037
    Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 7097 #161134 (accessed 4 January 2024)
    Nehemiah Ogden burial (died on 18 Apr 1713) on 20 Jun 1713 in Wrexham, England. Born in about 1619.
  3. Burial: "England and Wales Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8), 1588-1977"
    citing p. 73, Cheshire, record group RG6, Public Record Office, London
    FamilySearch Record: FWJ3-HZL (accessed 4 January 2024)
    Nehemiah Ogden burial on 20 Jun 1713 in Cheshire.
  4. 4.0 4.1 Cheshire, Nantwich, Society of Friends, Minutes with Intentions of Marriages (1679-1724): Film number: 004020690 > image 42 of 1161
    FamilySearch Image: S3HT-6SL7-899 (accessed 4 January 2024). "The second presentation of a Marriage betwixt Nehemiah Ogden, and Sarah Wilde of Ouldam was laid before this meeting: & though nothing appeared but that he is clear from others, yet this Meeting finding that he hath gone contrary to the desires of the yearly meeting, & in consideration of his Age, & other circumstances, are unsatisfied in the matter, & ratehr conte-desire that he would desist & there this Meeting leaves it."
  5. Baptism of son David Ogden: "England, Cheshire Parish Registers, 1538-2000"
    citing item 1, St Peter, Chester, Cheshire, England, Record Office, Chester; FHL microfilm 2,045,912
    FamilySearch Record: FQXT-D9S (accessed 4 January 2024)
    Nehemiah Ogden's son David Ogden baptism on 4 Jan 1650 in St Peter, Chester, Cheshire, England.
  6. Death: "Quaker Death Registers, Monthly Meeting of Worcestershire (1660-1793)"
    The National Archives; Kew, England; General Register Office: Society of Friends' Registers, Notes and Certificates of Births, Marriages and Burials; Class: RG 6; Piece: 808
    Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 7097 #30729 (accessed 4 January 2024)
    Nehemiah Ogdan departed this life the 14th day of the 4th month 1681.
  7. Charles Burr Ogden and Charles Smith Ogden, The Quaker Ogdens in America: David Ogden of ye goode ship "Welcome" and his descendants (Philadelphia: J.B. Lippincott, 1898), pages 44-46. FamilySearch Book: 51507
  8. Cheshire, Nantwich, Society of Friends, Minutes with Intentions of Marriages (1679-1724): Film number: 004020690 > image 64 of 1161
    FamilySearch Image: S3HT-6SL7-NHM (accessed 4 January 2024)
  9. Burial: "England & Wales, Quaker Birth, Marriage, and Death Registers, 1578-1837"
    The National Archives; Kew, England; General Register Office: Society of Friends' Registers, Notes and Certificates of Births, Marriages and Burials; Class: RG 6; Piece: 1037
    Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 7097 #161233 (accessed 4 January 2024)
    Sarah Agdin burial (died on 1 Dec 1727) in Feb 1727 in Wrexham, England. Born in about 1635.
  10. Burial: "England and Wales Non-Conformist Record Indexes (RG4-8), 1588-1977"
    citing p. 104, Cheshire, record group RG6, Public Record Office, London
    FamilySearch Record: FQVX-JJL (accessed 4 January 2024)
    Sarah Agdin burial on 0 Feb 1727 in Cheshire.
  11. Baptism: "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975"
    citing Digital film/folder number: 007567081; FHL microfilm: 1656073; Record number: 915; Packet letter: A
    FamilySearch Record: CXCQ-VT2M (accessed 4 January 2024)
    Nehenna Ogden baptism in Feb 1680, son of Paul Ogden, in Oldham, Lancashire, England, United Kingdom.




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DEATH: Per Church records “David Ogden, husband of Martha, d. 22nd da, 8th mo, 1705.” Since March was the first month under the old system, this states 22 Oct 1705.

CHILDREN: Following per Church records; Jonathan, b. 19th da, 5th mo, 1687, d. 6th mo, 1727; Martha, b. 23rd da, 5th mo, 1689; Sarah, b. 3rd da, 9th mo, 1691; Nehemiah, b. 15th da, 10th mo, 1693; Samuel, b. 30th da, 10th mo, 1695; John, b. 4th da, 5th mo, 1698; Aaron, b. 31st da, 3rd mo, 1700; Hannah, b. 22nd da, 6th mo, 1705; Steven, b. 12th da, 11th mo, 1705, d. 16th da, 9th mo, 1760.

RESIDENCES: David resided initially in Philadelphia but on or before his marriage he settled on a 200-acre tract of land in Middletown, then in Chester, now Delaware, County. His property was surveyed 27 Jun 1684.

posted by Glen Irwin
Finding the father of David Ogden, the Quaker, has not been verified though there is reference in the book, "Quaker Ogdens in America" that David was the son of either Jonathan or a David Ogden, who were sons of John Ogden , a weaver. It is not written as to how those names are correct per David.

If birth records could be found then we would know more exactly. Therefor giving reference to a father's name is a beginning in this search. Thanks to all who have input, it is valuable.

posted by Mary Armstrong
Hello ,

Thanks for adding this profile. When you are ready, do you know how to add sources for your info? Greg Hays

posted by Greg Hays

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