Johann Valentin Kuhn (1690 - 1757)

Born 4 Jun 1690 in Hüttengesäß, Hesse-Nassua, Heiliges Römisches Reich

Ancestors

Husband of Anna Catharina (Wies) Kuhn — married 1711 in New York [uncertain]

Husband of Anna Eva Catherina (Manck) Kreisler — married about 1733 in New York

Descendants

Died May 1757 at age 66 in Schoharie, New York

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Biography

Johann Valentin Kuhn was a son of Samuel Kuhn and Magdelena Berthen. He was born at Hüttengesäß (13 km northeast of Hanau) and baptized at Langenselbold on 4 June 1690. The family emigrated to New York, where in 1710 his family appeared on the Hunter lists of Palatine migrant settlers. In 1711 Johann Valentin was among the Palatine soldiers who served in an expedition to Canada.^[1][2]

He lived for some time near Red Hook or Rhinebeck, Dutchess County, New York. On 11 March 1726 he (recorded as Velten Koon) was taxed in the North Ward of Dutchess County, but was unable to pay.^[3]

He married Anna Catharina Wies or Weis in New York by 1711, based on Johanna’s baptism.^[4] Their children, as identified by Doherty, were:^[5] Jones (1985) proposes both Anna Catharina (third child, born 1715) and Catharina (sixth child) as daughters of Valentin with marriages to Ephraim Weller and Anthony Poucher respectively. ^[6]

1. Johanna Elizabetha Margaretha, born 1 November 1711, baptized at West Camp, New York. She married Jacob Drom.
2. Anna Elizabetha; married John, son of Hendrick and Willempje (Oostrum) Buys. Jones doesn’t suggest John Bois’ father.^[7]
3. Anna Catharina, born 21 November 1715, baptized in Schoharie, New York. According to Henry Jones' Palatine Families of New York, she married Ephraim Wheeler.^[7] Doherty says that they settled in the Beekman patent in Dutchess County, New York, and she died 22 May 1794. The Koon-Coons genealogy presented a different interpretation, indicating that this Anna Catharina married Anthony Poucher and that the Catherina Kuhn who married Ephraim Wheeler was a daughter of Conrad Kuhn.^[8] Doherty cited both interpretations and endorsed Jones' theory that this woman married Ephraim Wheeler, noting that the first son of Ephraim Wheeler and his wife was named Valentine.
4. Samuel, born 2 June 1718; married Elizabeth Loscher (Lasher).
5. Henrich, married Maria Susanna Hoffman^[7]
6. Catharina, married Anthony Poucher.^[9]
7. Jacob; married Maria Kohl; they settled in Columbia County, New York. Jones recommends searching records of their children.^[7]
8. Peter, baptized 9 April 1727; married first Lea Kohl and second Elizabeth (Benedict) Barnum. Jones mentions only first wife.^[7]
9. Johann Hermann, born 21 August 1732 at Athens, New York; married Catharina Kreisler. Jones points to children’s records.^[7]

Anna Catharina died some time after May 1741, when Velde Coen and Cathrina Wies were recorded as sponsors for a baptism in the Lutheran church in Red Hook, New York. After her death, Valentin Kuhn married Catharine Manck (or Mauk) as his second wife.^[10] In the article "The Wife of Johannes Kreisler," David Kendall Martin placed the date of this second marriage as "probably between 1743 and 1752, certainly by 1757."^[11]

Church Records

Baptismal sponsor, with Catharina Wies

• 1736 Jan. 4 Rhinebeck - Anna Catharina Wieler [grandparents] as in Coons (410)
• 1736 Feb. 15 Rhinebeck - Valentin Bois [grandparents] contra Coons.
• 1740 Aug. 17 Linlithgo - Velde Trom [grandparents]
• 1741 Jan. 21 Rhinebeck - Catharina Pauser [grandparents]
• 1741 May 7 Rhinebeck- Velde Wieler [grandparents]
• 1741 Aug. 16 Linlithgo - Catharina Koen [grandparents]
• 1743 Dec. 24 Rhinebeck - Catharina Kun [grandparents]

Baptismal sponsor, with Eva Catharina Manck

• 1752. 4 November. Jan Buis and Elisabeth Koen. Cathrina. Witnesses: Velte Koen and Cathrina Koen.^[12]
• 1753. Apr. 24. Catharina. Herman Coen, Catharina Kreiselaar. Sponsors: Velde Koen, Eva Catharina Kreiselaar.^[13][14]
• 1754 Jan. 6. Antony Pouster, Catrina Coen. Velten. Sponsors: Velte Koen and wife.^[15]
  Alternative transcript in published church records:
  1754. Mar. 3. born Jan. 6. Anthony Rouster, Catrina Koem. Velten. Sponsors: Velte Koen and his wife.^[16]
• 1754 July 14. Rhinebeck Flats - Wilhelmus Kruisselaar, Cathrina Schouwer. Catrina. Sponsors: Velte Coen and his wife.^[17]
• 1757. 15 May. Jac. Kuhn and Catrina Kohl. Valentine. Witnesses: Valentine Kuhn and wife Catharina Manck.^[18]

Did he sponsor these baptisms?

• 1738. May 8, in father's h[ouse] at Rurian's Kill. b[orn] May 7. Velten. Bastians Loscher, Liesabeth Veltens. Witnesses: Velten Kuhn, Maria h[is] w[ife]. ^{[19] [20]}

Sources

1. ↑ Doherty, Frank J., The Settlers of the Beekman Patent (1990). Vol. 7, pages 665-666.
2. ↑ Jones p. 495f.
3. ↑ Coons, page 358. (This is page 417 in the FamilySearch image of the book.)
4. ↑ Jones, page 495.
5. ↑ Doherty, Frank J., The Settlers of the Beekman Patent (1990). Vol. 7, page 666-667.
6. ↑ Jones, page 496
7. ↑ ^{7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 7.5} Jones, page 496
8. ↑ Coons, page 359.
9. ↑ Considering the unlikelihood of the family naming a second daughter Catharina while the first daughter of that name was living, and in view of Doherty's comments regarding Anna Catharina, the connection to this daughter must be considered tentative. Jones proposes both Anna Catharina and Catharina as daughters of Valentin, with marriages to Wheeler and Poucher, respectively (above).
10. ↑ Doherty, Frank J., The Settlers of the Beekman Patent (1990). Vol. 7, page 666. Jones p. 495
11. ↑ Martin, David Kendall. "The Wife of Johannes Kreisler." New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, Volume 106 (1975), page 196.
12. ↑ Martin, David Kendall. "The Wife of Johannes Kreisler." New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, Volume 106 (1975), page 196, citing Rhinebeck Dutch Reformed Church.
13. ↑ Martin, David Kendall. "The Wife of Johannes Kreisler." New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, Volume 106 (1975), page 196, citing Rhinebeck German Reformed Church.
14. ↑ "Baptisms of the Dutch Reformed Church, Rhinebeck, New York," New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, Vol. 96 (1965), page 30.
15. ↑ Martin, David Kendall. "The Wife of Johannes Kreisler." New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, Volume 106 (1975), page 196, citing Rhinebeck Dutch Reformed Church.
16. ↑ "Baptisms of the Dutch Reformed Church of Rhinebeck Flats, Dutchess County, New York." New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, Vol. 85 (1954), page 46.
17. ↑ Martin, David Kendall. "The Wife of Johannes Kreisler." New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, Volume 106 (1975), page 196, citing Rhinebeck Dutch Reformed Church. Note: The child's father, Wilhelmus Kruisselaar, was a son of Eva Catharina Mauck and her first husband, Johannes Kreisler.
18. ↑ Martin, David Kendall. "The Wife of Johannes Kreisler." New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, Volume 106 (1975), page 196, citing Germantown Dutch Reformed Church.
19. ↑ "Baptismal Records of Zion Lutheran Church, Loonenburg, Now Athens, Greene County, New York." New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, Vol. 82 (1951), page 163. Notes: Velten had a twin brother Frederich baptized on the same date. A note on the record indicates that the location "Rurian's Kill" was unidentified.
20. ↑ In describing this record, Coons (page 410) named the witnesses as Velten and wife Cathar. and gave the location as Kurians Kill.

• Jones, Henry Z. Palatine Families of New York (1985)

• NYGBR 82 (1951)

• Baptismal Record of St. Peter’s Lutheran Church Rhinebeck ... by Arthur C. M. Kelly (c1968, 1986)

• Coons, William S. Koon and Coons families of eastern New York. Rutland, Vermont: Tuttle Publishing Co. 1937.

• Ellis, Capt Franklin. Title to the Soil: Germantown, New York, 1878 http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ny/county/columbia/gtown/title_gtown.htm

Acknowledgments

• This person was created through the import of McDonald Family Tree.ged on 02 December 2010.
• Kuhn-1781 was created by Bracha Radin through the import of Denegri_Amedeo_Radin.ged on Jan 14, 2015.