Johann Martin Geisinger (bef. 1730 - 1762)

Born before 1730 in Weinheim

Died 28 Sep 1762 after age 32 in Cape Town, de Caep de Goede Hoop

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Biography

On January 7th, 1749 Johann Martin Geisinger signed up as soldier at the Dutch East India Company (Verenigde Oostindische Compagnie, the VOC) in Delft. He left from Delft with the ship "Overschie" heading towards Batavia. This ship reached the Cape on August 18th, 1749.^{[1][2][3][4][5]}

In 1752 Johann Martin became citizen of Cape Town.^[1]

Johann Martin married on August 6th, 1752 in Cape Town, reformed parish to Maria Magdalena.^[6] The couple had one son:

• Johannes Daniel Martinus Gijsinger (1755-)^[7]

At the same day his son Johannes Daniel Martinus was baptized, Johann Martin was godfather for Anna Maria Hunder.^[8]

Between March 23rd and November 2nd, 1755 his wife Maria Magdalena passed away. Johann Martin immediately married a second time on November 2nd, 1755 in Cape Town to Christina Maria Maartens.^[9][10]

Johann Martin passed away on September 28th, 1762.^[11][1][5]

Research Notes

Birth Date: No record with an age is found so far. Possible dates are prior 1730 (if born in 1730, he would have been 19 when signing up with the VOC). A possible baptism could be (speculation!): Joes Martinus Geissinger born 1729 in Weinheim as son of Henricus Geisinger and Anna Maria.^[12] See also Geisinger (Geissinger, Geißinger) in Weinheim for the family surrounding. FINAL PROOF IS MISSING! Supporting this theory is:

• In Weinheim/Baden many Geissinger families exist (other than in the other below discussed places, which can be identified as a place "Weinheim).
• In Weinheim/Baden also Mack families exist, so the later arriving Philip Jacob Mack could also be from that place.

Birth Place:

• Primary Sources: 1st marriage: "Weinheim"^[6], 2nd marriage: "Weijnheim"^[10]
• Seconday Sources: "Weijnheim"^[9], "Weinheim"^[2][3], "Gau-Weinheim"^[4](Note: there is no source for this interpretation of "Weinheim", the given source in that record (^[5]) explicitly states that it is not clear which Weinheim the man came from.
• Possible "Weinheim":
  • Weinheim (Bergstrasse) = Weinheim, Weinheim, Mannheim, Baden^[13][14]  : became 1806 part of Baden : this was the "largest" Weinheim in the region
  • Weinheim (Kr. Alzey) = Weinheim, Alzey, Rheinhess., Hessen^[13][15] : became 1815/1816 part of Hessen  : no "Geisinger" or similar name in the online available family books (starting 1691 for reformed parish)^[16]
  • Gau-Weinheim = Gau-Weinheim, Oppenheim, Rheinhess., Hessen^[13][17] : became 1815/1816 part of Hessen
  • Frei-Weinheim = Frei Weinheim, Bingen, Rheinhess., Hessen^[13][18] : became 1815/1816 part of Hessen
  • Weinsheim = Weinsheim, Kreuznach, Coblenz, Rheinland, Preussen^[13][19] : became 1815 part of Preussen
  • Weinsheim = Weinsheim, Worms, Rheinhess., Hessen^[13][20] : became 1815 part of Hessen

Migration: Original migration records have not be found.

Children:

• There is a second child: Maria^[21] Any further information on her ? Which wife is the mother ?
• Are there other children?

Reviewed Records with no findings:

• "Alphabetical list, Master of the Supreme Court, Cape Town, 1700-1877, liquidation and distribution accounts", FamilySearch.org, Film Nr. 007731721: G : Image 832-854.
• "Civil registration (marriage indexes), Cape Province (South Africa), 1700-1933 / Marriage indexes - 1700-1839 (A-M)", FamilySearch.org, Film Nr. Film Nr. 008017962: G : Image 1097-1113.

Made Requests and Acknowledgements :

• 07-NOV-2022 : discourse.genealogy.net (registration required) : Information on "H.F.K Band 4" : Thank you to those answering that post.
• 09-NOV-2022 : Via contact forms for entries https://www.lagis-hessen.de/de/purl/resolve/subject/ha/id/230727 & https://arcinsys.hessen.de/arcinsys/detailAction?detailid=v4687946 : Information on source for the given place of origin : No information other than ^[5], place definition was by mistake. Thank you to "Hessisches Institut für Landesgeschichte".
• 21-NOV-2022 : Via contact form at WGOD (Werkgroep Genealogisch Onderzoek Duitsland, WGOD) : Information on Migration or Service in West India Company. Contact with Joes Kaldenbach and research done by him in the Archive in Bunnik. There is also a daughter Maria mentioned.^[21] There is no testament in Bunnik. There is no further detail on which "Weinheim" Johann Martin came from. Thank you to Joes Kaldenbach.

Sources

1. ↑ ^{1.0 1.1 1.2} Death & Occupation: Nationaal Archief (Netherlands), Dutch East India Company, archive 1.04.02, inventory number 13988, folio 222. Nationaal Archief VOC - voyagers, this index was developed through a joint initiative of the archives of Delft and Rotterdam, Zeeuws archief, Westfries Archief (Hoorn and Enkhuizen) and the departments of history from the Universities of Leiden and Ghent. Permalink https://hdl.handle.net/10648/cddda8a0-c864-11e6-9d8b-00505693001d Openarchive.nl, Johan Martien Giesinger

   222)					Page 1
   					In 't schip Overschie
   					Johan martien Giesinger van ...
   					Soldaat nied vermaekt
   			1749
   				april 6.	aen de Edlel Comp over 2/m gage op de hand1		ƒ	18.	-.	-
   				_ " _	aen SC2 aen W.C.		"	150.	-.	-
   				_ " _	aen 1/2 Kist.		"	2.	2.	8
   150.	-.	-.
   134.	14.	8					ƒ	170.	2.	8
   15.	5.	8
   			1750	6 nov	bet p Bogaart fo3	207	ƒ	15.	6.	-
   134.	14	8
   106.	19.	8			p.lis 290 No. 3 Cont Cabo
   27.	15.	-
   			1751	30 nov	affger. Bogaart4	232	ƒ	27.	15.	-
   106.	19.	8	1752		27d° affger. "	255	ƒ	47.	17.	-
   59.	2.	8			p.lis 293 n 2 Cont.	1751
   47.	17.	-	1753	20 nov	affger. Bogaart	203	ƒ	59.	2.	-
   					5 H no 536		ƒ	150.	-.	-

   ¹ : aen de Edlel Compagnie over 2/m gage op de hand = being in the noble company for 2 month, pay cash on the hand
   ² : SC = Schuld = dept
   ³ : bet = betaald = paid, Bogaart is the persons name filing the money, fo = Folio = sheet
   ⁴ : affger. = afgerekent = paid

   Page 2
   		A.o 1749 voor Delft -
   1749
   aug	ult.	per d'E. Comp. ƒ 35. 8. - ov 3.28 end Gage a ƒ 9 Js
   		van den 3 maÿ dat aan boord gecomen,
   		tot heden dat aan Cabo de goede
   		Hoop aan land gaat	ƒ	35.	0.	-
   - " -		over te quaat	"	134.	19.	8
   			ƒ	170.	2.	8
   			ƒ	-.	4.	-
   van Cabo tot 15 febr 1752, 296 n3 Burger5
   Lis:	296	no 4 Cont: aug : 1752.
   	299	n 13 Cont 1753
   	303	no 12 Cont 1754
   	306	n: 5. Cont: : . 1755.
   	309	n. 4. Cont: . 1756.
   	313	n. 2. cont: . 1757
   	316	n. 5. cont: 1758
   	319	n. 6. cont: 1759
   	322	" 6. Cont: 1760.
   	325	" 5B. Cont: 1761.
   	328	" 45. Cont: 1762.
   	335	" blijkt dat den 28 Septemb
   		1762 is overleden zonder testament
   		doch vrouw en kinderen nalatende.
   		f. - 4 - . nalat.6

   ⁵ : Became Citizen in 1752.
   ⁶ : nalat. = natalende = residue, legacy
   Note: amounts in guilders / stuiver / cent : 1 guilder = 20 stuivers, 1 stuiver = 16 penning. (source: Wikipedia:NL:Stuiver)

   Thank you to Joes Kaldenbach, Jos Pellekoorne and Koen van Hoof for the transcription.

2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1} "Deutsche Kultur im Leben der Völker: Mitteilungen", Deutsche Akademie, 1935. Google Books Snippet: Giesinger (Geisinger), Johan Martin, von Weinheim, 1749 als Soldat ang., bat 1752 um B.P., vh. 1755 mit Christina Maria Maartens.
3. ↑ ^{3.0 3.1} South Africa Online Migration List: GEISINGER / GIESINGER, Johann Martin, Weinheim, arr 1749. - http://www.safrika.org/Names/PersonaliaG-K.html
4. ↑ ^{4.0 4.1} Hessische Auswanderer, Database Lagis Hessen, (Stand: 1.12.2019). „Geisinger, Johann Martin (Giesinger), Gau-Weinheim, 1749“. Source Reference: H.F.K. Band 4 Sp. 269.
5. ↑ ^{5.0 5.1 5.2 5.3} H.F.K. Band 4 Sp. 269: "Hessische Familienkunde Band 4", Page 269: "Hessen in Südafrika unter holländischer Herrschaft (Hoge)" (see Hessische Familienkunde/Band 04 – GenWiki).
6. ↑ ^{6.0 6.1} 1st Marriage of Martin Geisinger: The Genealogical Society of South Africa: eGSSA branch, South African Records Transcribed. A selection of historical records transcriptions (https://www.eggsa.org/sarecords/index.php/church-registers/cape-town-marriages-1713-1756/312-cape-town-marriages-1752 : accessed 5 Nov 2022), "Cape Town Marriages 1752", written by transcribed by Corney Keller; citing Cape Archives Verbatim copies document VC 621 - Cape Town marriages and memberships 1713-1756, which is a photocopy of the original register, now housed in the Nederduits Gereformeerde Kerkargief, Noordwal-Wes, Stellenbosch, as G1-13/1. Citation: page 69
   1752
   ('Namen der personen die zigh') in den echt begeven hebben
   Den 6 Aug:
   Martin Geisinger van Weinheim burger
   alhier jongman met Maria Magdalena
   van de Caab.
   "South Africa, Dutch Reformed Church Registers (Cape Town Archives), 1660-1970 ", database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6NPZ-XF9W : 13 October 2022), Martin Geisinger, 1752.
7. ↑ Baptism of Johannes Daniel Martinus Gijsinger: The Genealogical Society of South Africa: eGSSA branch, South African Records Transcribed. A selection of historical records transcriptions (https://www.eggsa.org/sarecords/index.php/church-registers/cape-town-baptisms-1743-1756/326-cape-town-baptisms-1755) "Cape Town Baptisms 1755" Written by transcribed by Corney Keller; citing Cape Archives Verbatim copies document VC 606 - Cape Town baptisms 1743-1756, which is a photocopy of the original register, now housed in the Nederduits Gereformeerde Kerkargief, Noordwal-Wes, Stellenbosch, as G1-8/3. page 111
   1755 ...
   Den 23 dito
   Johannes Daniel Martinus,
   de vader is Johannes Gijsinger
   de moeder is Maria Magdalena van de Kaap
   als getuijgen sijn Johan Daniel Jongman, en Antonetta van Macassar
   "South Africa, Dutch Reformed Church Registers (Cape Town Archives), 1660-1970 ," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRL9-YZ3 : 23 February 2021), Johannes Daniel Martinus Gijsinger, 23 Mar 1755, Baptism; citing p. , Cape Town, Cape of Good Hope, South Africa, State Archives, Cape Province; FHL microfilm 2,214,107.
8. ↑ Godfather Johan Martin Gijsinger: Baptism of Anna Maria Hunder. The Genealogical Society of South Africa: eGSSA branch, South African Records Transcribed. A selection of historical records transcriptions (https://www.eggsa.org/sarecords/index.php/church-registers/cape-town-baptisms-1743-1756/326-cape-town-baptisms-1755) "Cape Town Baptisms 1755" Written by transcribed by Corney Keller; citing Cape Archives Verbatim copies document VC 606 - Cape Town baptisms 1743-1756, which is a photocopy of the original register, now housed in the Nederduits Gereformeerde Kerkargief, Noordwal-Wes, Stellenbosch, as G1-8/3. page 111
   1755 ...
   Den 23 dito
   Anna Maria,
   de soogesegde vader is Hendrik Hunder
   de moeder is Maria Magdalena van de Kaap
   getuijgen sijn Johan Martin Gijsinger
9. ↑ ^{9.0 9.1} Family: Christoffel Coetzee de Villiers, "Geslacht-Register der Oude Kaapsche Familien. Deel 2. - A tot O.", Kaapstad: Van de Sandt de Villiers & Co., Beperkt, Drukkers, 1894. Family Nr. 575: Maartens, page 285:
   Dirk Maartens, von Holsteijn, gehuwd 28 November 1734 met Johanna Vissen
   (b) 1 Christina Maria, gedoopt 18 November 1735, gehowd 2 November 1755 met Jan Martin Geisinger, van Weijnheim, hertrouwdt 30 October 1763 met Philip Jacob Mack, van Weijnheim
   2 Jurianus Godfricus, gedoopt 8 Maart 1739.
10. ↑ ^{10.0 10.1} 2nd Marriage of Jan Martin Geisinger: The Genealogical Society of South Africa: eGSSA branch, South African Records Transcribed. A selection of historical records transcriptions (https://www.eggsa.org/sarecords/index.php/church-registers/cape-town-marriages-1713-1756/315-cape-town-marriages-1755 : accessed 5 Nov 2022), "Cape Town Marriages 1755", written by transcribed by Corney Keller; citing Cape Archives Verbatim copies document VC 621 - Cape Town marriages and memberships 1713-1756, which is a photocopy of the original register, now housed in the Nederduits Gereformeerde Kerkargief, Noordwal-Wes, Stellenbosch, as G1-13/1. Citation: page 80
    1755 ...
    Den 2 November
    is alhier getrouwt Jan Martin
    Geisinger, van Weijnheim, burger
    alhier, weduwenaar; met
    Christina Maria Martensz: van
    Cabo de Goede Hoop, jonge dogter.
    "South Africa, Dutch Reformed Church Registers (Cape Town Archives), 1660-1970 ", database with images, FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6N56-K548 : 13 October 2022), Jan Martin Geisinger, 1755.
11. ↑ Death: "Civil registration (deaths), Cape Colony, 1758-1833, Registers 1758-1775 1776-1788 1789-1797 1797-1803 1804-1821 1822-1833, A-D 1822-1833, E-I 1822-1833, J-L", FamilySearch.org, Film Nr. 008117313, Image 27: Ao. 1762 ... d. Jan Martin Gijsinger - d. "(September) 28. -
12. ↑ Baptism of Joes Martinus Geissinger: "Deutschland, Baden, Erzbistum Freiburg, katholische Kirchenbücher, 1678-1930," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q1P1-Y4PZ : 16 January 2019), Joes Martinus Geissinger, 14 Nov 1729; citing Baptism, Weinheim, Baden, Deutschland, , Erzbischöfliches Archiv Freiburg (Archbishop's Archives), Germany. Film Nr. 7992182.
13. ↑ ^{13.0 13.1 13.2 13.3 13.4 13.5} Meyers Orts- und Verkehrs-Lexikon des Deutschen Reichs. 5th edition. Uetrecht, E. (Erich) Leipzig and Wien: Bibliographisches Institut, 1912. Used Online Version: meyersgaz.org.
14. ↑ de:Wikipedia, Weinheim (Bergstrasse).
15. ↑ de:Wikipedia, Weinheim (Alzey).
16. ↑ Online FamilyBooks on Weinheim (Alzey):
    • Braun, Gerd: Reformiertes Kirchenbuch Weinheim : 1691-1798. – Heimersheim, 2012. Online-PDF
    • Braun, Gerd: Römisch-Katholisches Kirchenbuch Weinheim : 1767-1798. – Heimersheim, 2010. Online-PDF
    • Braun, Gerd: Standesregister Weinheim : 1798-1820. – Heimersheim, 2011. Online-PDF
17. ↑ de:Wikipedia, Gau-Weinheim.
18. ↑ de:Wikipedia, Frei-Weinheim.
19. ↑ de:Wikipedia, Weinsheim.
20. ↑ de:Wikipedia, Worms-Weinsheim.
21. ↑ ^{21.0 21.1} Family: "Suid-Afrikaanse Geslagregisters", Deel 2, Pretoria, Geesteswetenkaplike Navorsing, Pretoria, 1989. Page 411.

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