Alice Carpenter was one of the children of Alexander Carpenter and his wife Priscilla whose surname is unknown. (Alice's mother was not Priscilla Dillen whose profile has been detached from this family).
Alice was probably born between 1584 and 1590 in an unknown parish in Somerset, England given that her older two siblings were born in Bath St James, Somerset in 1582 and 1584, and her five younger sisters were baptised in Wrington, Somerset from 1590 onwards.
There is no baptism for Alice in the Wrington parish register.
Her place of birth in the marriage register in Leiden, Holland is "England".
Her date of birth has previously been given as 3 August 1590. The date of baptism of her sister Joan (the first of the Wrington baptisms) was 2 August 1590.
If Joan was baptised shortly after being born, then Alice could not have been born later than October 1589.
Five younger sisters were born in Wrington between 1590 and 1598.
The family still seem to have been in Wrington in 1610 when the oldest of these sisters, Joan, died at the age of about 20 and was buried at Wrington.
The Carpenter family had moved to Leiden, Zuid Holland by 1612 when Julian, the eldest sister married George Morton, a native of York on 23 July 1612. Alice (spelled Elsge) was one of the witnesses, and her father Alexander was also a witness. [1]
Alice married Edward Southworth, at Leiden on 4 May, 1613.
Marriage May 28, 1613 Leiden Eduwaert Sodtwaert and Els Carpenter
Date Int Marriage- Datum ondertrouw: May 4, 1613 Leiden, Marriage: May 28, 1613 Leiden
Groom-Bruidegom: Eduwaert Sodtwaert Place of Birth-Plaats geboorte: england- Engelant Occupation-Beroep: saaiwerker
Bride- Bruid: Els Carpenter Place of Birth-Plaats geboorte:England- Engelant[2] Remarks-Opmerkingen: Witnesses groom-Getuigen bruidegom: Tomas Sodtwaert brother - broer - Samuel Fuller brother in law - zwager - Rogier Wilson acquaintance-bekende Witnesses bride-Getuigen bruid: Anna Ras acq.-bekende - Elysabeth Gennings acq. -bekende - Maiden names witn bride- Meisjesnamen getuige buid: Carlisle en Lisle. [3]
Edward and Alice Southworth had two sons, Thomas and Constance.
After her husband passed away, Alice Southworth joined the Pilgrims in Plymouth Colony, Alice arrived in Plymouth on the Anne about 10 July 1623 (which had sailed with the Little James but arrived a week earlier) accompanied by Thomas Morton II, the likely son of the Thomas Morton I of the Fortune. Less than a month later she married William Bradford.
William and Alice's marriage was the fourth to take place in the new Colony, and Alice brought her own property into the marriage. Three children were born to the Bradfords: William, Mercy and Joseph.
Alice and Edward's son Thomas came over with his mother and Constant came over in 1628 and they were brought up in William Bradford's) household.[4]
A transcription of a letter from William Bradford (husband of Alice Carpenter) in Plymouth, Massachusetts to his "loving sister" Mary Carpenter in Wrington, Somerset was printed in the New England Genealogical Register in 1860. [5] The commentary on this letter states that the transcribed date of 19 August 1664 must be wrong (William Bradford died in 1657) and was probably written in "1644 or 1646 to fit with other events."
The letter is an invitation to Mary to join the Bradford family in Plymouth Colony. However the letter also mentioned that England was at peace, which would suggest that the letter was written after the end of the Civil War on 1651. For more detail about the letter, see the profile of Priscilla Unknown, Alice and Mary's mother>
(The commentary on this letter is also mistaken about the relative years of birth for Alice (1590) and Mary (1577) - both of these are unsourced and conflict with the evidence from the parish registers).
Alice died on Saturday, 26 March 1670, in Plymouth[6] and was buried there the next Tuesday near her husband. Her will dated 29 December 1669 and exhibited 7 June 1670 names her sister Mary Carpenter and sons Constant Southworth, Thomas Southworth (deceased), Joseph Bradford and Capt. William Bradford.[7][8]
Notes
Alice's sister Juliana Carpenter (bp. 17 March 1584 St. James Church, Bath, Somersetshire?) married George Morton on 23 July 1612 in Leyden. George and Juliana arrived at Plymouth on 17-20 July 1623 aboard the Little James. George's brother Thomas Morton I (bp. 1 March 1589?) arrived earlier in Plymouth, aboard the Fortune on 9 November 1621.
The Southworths and William (Bradford) lived in Heneage House on Dukes Place in London for about a year before the Mayflower sailed, so were Alice (Carpenter) Southworth was probably well acquainted with William Bradford. Edward Southworth died by 1621, probably in Leyden, after the Mayflower sailed.
William was elected governor of the Colony in 1621, following the death of Governor Carver. William was reelected governor annually in the periods 1621-33, 1635-37, 1639-44 and 1645-57. In between he was elected Assistant Governor. He lived in his house at the bottom of Burial Hill in Plymouth and kept a farm in Kingston. He authored many books on history, the best known and one of the few not lost being History of Plymouth Plantations.[citation needed]
Research Notes
This exerpt from the Mayflower Families book unsourced as there is no baptism record for Alice in the Wrington parish register after 1590." Alice was born probably in Wrington, Somerset, England about 1595. She died in Plymouth 26 or 27 March 1670." [9]
No baptism has been found for Alice. The parish registers for Wrington are complete from 1538 and her name is not present.
Is there any source for this statement? Although Alice Bradford had very little formal education, she had a strong personality, deep faith, great influence, and owner her own property. Wikipedia says, "The Carpenter sisters of Leiden, Netherlands and Plymouth Colony provided a unique genetic impact and moral influence to the colonization of the Plymouth Colony in America in the early 1620s. ... They
became their family matriarchs that settled the hearths, and maintained Pilgrim Fathers".
Sources
↑ Marriage: 23-07-1612 Place: Leiden Datum ondertrouw-Banns : 05-07-1612 Groom: Joris Morthen Place of Birth: Jorck in Engelant
Occupation: Merchant- koopman Bride: Julyaen Carpenter, Place of Birth: Baert in Engelant Witnesses Groom: Thomas Morthen brother - Rogier Wiltzoen Acq. Witnesses bride: Alexander Carpenter father- vader - Elsge Carpenter sister- zuster - Anna? Robisse acq.- bekende
Source: Erfgoed Leiden en omstreken Marriage record 23 July, 1612 Leiden Schepenhuwelijken (1592-1795) Archiefnr 1004 Archiefnaam Schepen huwelijken (1592-1795) Inventarisnummer 198 Folio: B - 013v
↑ Information from the Leiden Archives, a published English translation is Bangs, Jeremy Dupertus, Strangers and Pilgrims, Travellers and Sojourners - Leiden and the Foundations of Plymouth Plantation, General Society of Mayflower Descendants, Plymouth, Massachusetts, 2009
↑Letter from William Bradford in: Kidder, Frederic. "Letter of Mary Carpenter". New England Historical and Genealogical Register vol. 14, page 195 (1860) Internet Archive Accessed 3 March 2021
↑ Trask, W. B., "Abstracts of the Earliest Wills," NEHGRVol. 7(1853):179.
↑ Mayflower Families Through Five Generations, Silver Books, Volume Twenty-Two, The Descendants of William Bradford, 2004, Page 1
Ann S. Lainhart and Robert S. Wakefield, Mayflower families through five generations, descendants of the pilgrims who landed at Plymouth, Mass. December 1620, family of William Bradford, General Society of Mayflower Descendants, 2004, Volume 22.
Bradford's History Of Plymouth Plantation, Wright & Porter Printing Company,Boston, 1898.
Willison, George F., Saints and Strangers, The Cornwall Press, Cornwall, NY, 1943, Third Printing.
Barbara Wells Sarudy. 1623 Governor & Widower Wm Bradford woos his 1st love Widow Alice Carpenter Southworth to join him in Plymouth Colony, May 8, 2011. Blog Post from 17C American Women
A good book to add to Alice's (and several other Mayflower women) profile would be "In the Shadow of Men" by Sue Allen. Originally published and copyrighted in 2020. I believe permission would need to be granted before using any information gleaned from her books. This book was edited by Caleb Johnson. It was published by DomTom in England but now is published by NEHGS and available on their website. "She was one of six daughters of Alexander Carpenter and his wife Pricilla, of Wrington, in Somerset."
I have completed the planned edits on this profile. Are there more details about Alice's will in the public domain? The NEHG Register quoted as reference 5 suggests that Mary Carpenter died two years before Alice Carpenter would have written her will.
It appears that sister Mary Carpenter's death was in 1687. I'll see if I can find the original, but this is the transcript in the Plymouth published VRs: "Mistres Mary Carpenter decd. 20th March 1687 in 91 year."
That makes much more sense than Mary dying in 1667 as a 91 year old as per the NEGH Register article, and would fit with being baptised in February 1596/7
I am currently working on Alice Carpenter's parents on behalf of the England Project. I have edited some details on this profile after discussion with the PGM leadeship.
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