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Henry Blethyn (1643)

Henry Blethyn aka Blevins
Born in North Meols, Lancashire, Englandmap
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Biography

Henry Blethyn was supposedly born about 1643 at North Meols, Lancashire, England, the son of James Blethyn, and possibly Ann Browne.[citation needed]

Henry became a seaman and is recorded as a crewmember on the ship William Penn Fleet ship "Submission" that sailed in 1682.[1] The Submission left Liverpool July 5, 1682 and first landed at Chesapeake Bay due to navigation error. She then sailed up the Delaware River and arrived in Chester Co. Pennsylvania Nov. 2, 1682.

Research Notes

There is a widely-disseminated claim in online genealogies that Henry Bllethyn (or Blivin) was the father of William Blethyn, and that William was the father of William Blevins, who was supposedly the patriarch of all early Blevins families in America. These claims appear to be based entirely on a book self-published in 2012 by Leslie Blevins, which cites no sources for them and is not a reliable source.[2] A Henry Blivin is reported as a crew member (Crew Member: Apprentice) on board the Submission. However, there are no sources that show that he is the father of William Blevins nor where he settled in the colonies, if he did settle at all. As described in more detail on the profile for William Blevins, there does not appear to be any reliable evidence that that William even existed.

For a more reliable discussion of the earliest evidence of Blevins men in America, see:

Robert P. Blevins, "The Blevins Men of New York and New England: The First Blevins Settlers in the New World," (typescript, 2020); images, WikiTree, Robert P Blevins Publications.

Sources

  1. Transcribed on 07/09/03 By Laura Freeman. "https://www.olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/submission.shtml." Submission from Liverpool, 5th day of the 7th month, 1682: Olive Tree Genealogy Ships Passenger Lists. Accessed 07 October 2018 SJ Baty.
  2. Leslie W. Blevins Jr., et. al., comp. The Longhunters: A Report on the History and Family Of William Blevins Sr. of Virginia, Showing 25 Ascendants, and Uncounted Descendants. ISBN 978-4653-9999-1. Page 18.




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It's time to put a fact or two into this page.

It was Henry Blivin, not Henry Blethyn, who was an apprentice crew member on the ship Submission that set sail from Liverpool to the New World on August 5th, 1682. Note that the name was spelled as the English Blevin or Bliven or similar and not as the Welsh Blyddyn or Blythin or similar which hints that he lived in England, not Wales.

If Henry had been born in 1643 as claimed here, he surely would have been the world's first and only 39 year old apprentice sailor. To become a sailor a boy started as an apprentice no later than age fourteen. The boy's parents, if they had the means, paid a ship's master or first mate a hefty sum to train the boy for up to nine years as an unpaid apprentice. [source: New World Exploration]

So, Henry was almost certainly 14-23 years old in 1682, thus born in 1659-1668. A search of "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975" reveals that a Henry Blevin was christened at North Meols, Lancashire, England on 6 December 1663. His father's name was Barnabe Blevin.

To claim that Henry was a son of James Bleddyn and Anne Browne without a shred of proof is poor genealogy. James and Anne are known to have had three children: daughter Frances (birth year unknown); son John who was born and died in Flintshire County, Wales in 1632; and son William who was christened in the Llanasa parish in Flintshire in 1637. William's christening record states that James was an alien living in Lancashire County. For anyone who doesn't know, Lancashire is immediately north of Flintshire.

To claim that Henry remained was a part of William Penn's Pennsylvania Settlers community without a shred of proof is poor genealogy.

posted by Alton Blevins
edited by Alton Blevins
My book "THE LONGHUNTERS" traces the Blevins family that became Longhunters in VA, TN, KY and NC during Daniel Boone's time. Researchers have also traced this line back to before time of JESUS and I hear this is very rare that any family line can be traced that far back in time. My book traces the Blevins line back to Merfyn Frych ap Gwraid and I have the data on yet another 28 generations back in time. Message me about this if your line is or connects to the Blevins line.

Merfyn Frych Ap Gwriad (Merfyn the Freckled) (born ca 764-780, died 844) was a King of Gwynedd and possibly also of Powys who styled himself King of the Britons.

posted by L (Blevins) B
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Thank you for writing.

This is the information I have . Hope it is correct. Henry hand a son named William born 1710 in Westerly RI. My information gets confusing here. William’s son Daniel was suppose to be the first Blevins child born In American, same place and date. Then came Dillon about 1750. This I believe is the start of the Belvins and the Long hunters history. I have lots of information, which was probably taken from your book. Please let me know if I am on the right track. Where can I find your book. I am in Austin, Tx. Could it be at the Johnson Library?

posted by [deleted]
It's impossible to make such a tracing. I's fantasy genealogy at best.
posted by Alton Blevins
Henry Blethyn was a son of James Blethyn. William #1 and his six sons descend from Henry Blethyn of Lancashire England. It is believed Henry was born near or perhaps moved to the western coastal area of England and became a seaman. William Blethyn #1 and his sons were among those who immigrated to the American Colonies in the early 1600s, shortly after Henry had taken up seafaring it would seem.

Henry Blethyn may have been encouraged to become a seaman through the influence of Joshua Blethyn, another son of James Blethyn b. 1602 and thus one of Henry’s brothers. Joshua is the earliest known seaman in the Blevins family, but there may have been even earlier connections to the sea that aren’t known about.

Henry Blethyn and others of the Blethyn family became seagoing mariners. Joshua Blethyn was master of the ship Polly. Joshua settled in Newport, RI and had sons Edward Bliven and James Blivin. Blivin and Bliven are simply derivatives with spelling variations of the old Welsh family name Blethyn.

Henry Blethyn b: ca. 1643 in North Meols, Lancashire, England, became a seaman. Married unknown?? Henry is recorded as a crewmember on the ship "Submission", which was one of 23 immigrant ships in "Penn's Fleet". The Submission left Liverpool July 5, 1682 and first landed at Chesapeake Bay due to navigation error. She then sailed up the Delaware River and arrived in Chester Co. Pennsylvania Nov. 2, 1682. Henry was the father of William #1 b. ca 1660-72, whose descendants are the subject of this report. He was among the first of the Blevins family to appear in and remain in the Colonies along with the clearly related ‘Blivins’ families of Salem Massachusetts.

Children of Henry and Anne Browne Blethyn include;

William Blevins #1 b: ca 1660 in England m. Anna Bunch ca 1690 in Salem NJ. Anna Bunch was born about 1674 a daughter of John Bunch Sr. and Mary Barnard Bunch. John Bunch Sr. was a born in England ca 1630. Anna Bunch Blevins is thought to be buried in Maryland or Rhode Island. William #1’s final resting place in America is unknown.

Second Generation Children of William #1 and Anna Bunch Blevins are;

1. William #2 b: ca 1691 Born in American Colonies 2. Richard #1 b. ca 1693 - 1695 “ “ “ “ 3. James #1 b. ca 1702 “ “ “ “ 4. John #1 b. ca 1703 - 1709 “ “ “ “ 5. Daniel #1 b: ca 1710 – 1711 “ “ “ “ 6. Thomas #1 b. ca 1711 - 1712 “ “ “ “

William Blevins #2 b. ca 1691 is likely the first Blevins to be born in the Colonies. He was the early patriarch of the Blevins clan that became known as “Longhunters”. The Blevins were likely religious dissenters, perhaps Quakers. Like the Wallen/Walling families they mingled and intermarried with, they left Salem Mass. before going to Maryland and then Rhode Island. Then some (including William #2 and his sons) left Rhode Island ca. 1724 for the interior. A linking line is Joshua Blethyn (the seaman captain of Salem), whose’ son James Bliven married Margery Cord.

posted by L (Blevins) B
Joe, if you have evidence or anything indicating that Henry Blethyn b. ca 1643 might be a son of other than James Blethyn b. ca 1602 please share it with me in a private message or share it here more publically for others in this space.

Ancestry is one of the more credible sources and if you Google and check James Bleddyn Blethyn and Ann Browne and then look at what Ancestry has you will find there is some confusion there in that on the Ancestry page for James Blethyn it shows he had a son Henry b. ca 1653 but I think the consensus is that he was more likely b. ca 1643.

posted by L (Blevins) B
Joe as you probably know there is confusion and disagreement among Blevins researchers about the linage of William #1 (the first of the Blevins born in the colonies) but as I have it William’s grandfather was one James Blethyn and his father was James’ son Henry. I believe the below information is accurate as far as what it shows.

Henry Blethyn b: ca. 1643 in North Meols, Lancashire, England, became a seaman. He married unknown?? Henry is recorded as a crewmember on the ship "Submission", which was one of 23 immigrant ships in "Penn's Fleet". The Submission left Liverpool July 5, 1682 and first landed at Chesapeake Bay due to navigation error. She then sailed up the Delaware River and arrived in Chester Co. Pennsylvania Nov. 2, 1682. Henry was the father of William #1 b. ca 1660-72, whose descendants are the subject of this report. He was among the first of the Blevins family to appear in and remain in the Colonies along with the clearly related ‘Blivins’ families of Salem Massachusetts.

Father: James Blethyn b: 1602 Mother: Anne Browne b. Abt. 1610 - 1625

William Blevins, I Also Known As: "William Blevens", "William Bleddyn" Birthdate: about 1668 Birthplace: Formby, Sefton, England, United Kingdom Death: 1767 (99) Maryland, Colonial America Immediate Family: Son of Henry Blethyn and Elizabeth (Betsy) Ann Blevins Husband of Ann Blevins Father of William "Jack" Blevins, ll

posted by L (Blevins) B
Les, what is the evidence for the parents of this Henry Blethyn? I know you have done a lot of research on this family but it appears to me this line needs to be broken right here.
posted by Joe Cochoit
From page 17 of "THE LONGHUNTERS" by Les Blevins,

James Blethyn b: 1602 in Mecham, Monmouthshire, Wales. m. Anne Browne. Their children apparently were 1. Joshua b. abt 1619, 2. Bartholomew b. abt 1625, 3, Richard b. 1627, 4. John b. 1632, 5. William b. 1637 6. James b. 1640 7. Henry b. 1643 – possibly others. It was the sons of James Blethyn and Anne that began sailing to North America in the mid to late 1600s and began establishing permanent homes there. James's Father: William Blethyn b: 1572 in Mathern, Monmouthshire, Wales James's Mother: Elizabeth Morgan b: Abt 1572 in Machen, Monmouth, Wales Marriage: Anne Browne (documented but as yet unproven)

posted by L (Blevins) B
If anyone has any evidence (proven or otherwise) of the spouse of Henry Blevins please do share it here in this comment space.
posted by L (Blevins) B
Bleddyn-35 and Blethyn-7 appear to represent the same person because: same person
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Blethyn-7 and Blethyn-17 appear to represent the same person because: same person
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Bleddyn-4 and Blethyn-17 appear to represent the same person because: same person
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