William of Harford (Hereford?) – This is the way Bartrum lists William. Most likely Hereford is the correct location. Many Awbreys lived in Herefordshire. Harford is located many miles distant in in far southwest England.
John Aubrey (sold Slwch to Rich. Fawr). Fawr translates to great or large. Possibly this could be a reference to his father. Or, it could be Gwalter’s son Richard.
Richard was born and lived at Abercynrig, Brecknockshire, Wales located in the Parish of Llanfrynach. See a complete description and history at Abercynrig, Wales and at Coflein – Abercynrig. There are various spellings for Abercynrig. Aberkenfig is a different location.
Research Notes
Marriages
A previous edition of this profile listed a 2nd marriage to “Gwladus f. Dafydd Fras. There was not a valid source link to support this marriage. A search for this person reveals she married Philip ab Elidir.
Dates of Birth
More than one date of birth is found in different sources. The latest research was provided by Darrell Wolcott of The Center for the Study of Ancient Wales. A link to his research is in the green box above. Also, see Wolcott’s web page EINON AP LLYWARCH OF CARMARTHENSHIRE – footnote 27 which reads:
"[27] Dwnn ii, 57 & Pen. 131, 232 say Crisli (or Sissely) ferch Philip ap Eildyr Ddu married Richard Aubrey (c. 1350) son of Thomas Aubrey Hen (c. 1315) son of William Aubrey (c. 1275). A brother of that Richard Aubrey, Griffith, married the sister of Crisli, Marged, according to Pen. 133, 39. A third, unnamed, daughter of Philip ap Elidyr Ddu is cited in Pen. 133, 64 as having married Dafydd (c. 1340) ap Hopkin (c. 1305) ap Gruffudd Gethin (c. 1270) of Ynys Dawe, Gower...a man of uncertain ancestry whom we date by other marriages among his family."
Jones, Theophilus, A History of the County of Brecknock, published 1909 lists the Awbrey family pedigree without dates. Also, he has left out several generations.
Evans, Dr. Myron (an Awbrey descendant), O Hudd Ei Ddoe published in 2012 lists different dates and gives little credence to the Awbrey pedigree earlier than Thomas Awbrey “Constable Coch”. Dr. Evans now ascribes to the findings of Wolcott and the research in Jon Awbrey’s book Aubrey/Awbrey Dominion and Decline published in 2007.
Sources
↑RESEARCH STUDY OF THE EARLY AUBREY/AWBREY FAMILY IN WALES FROM 1060 TO 1350 provides research for the existence of, the lineage of, and circa birth dates of the Aubrey/Awbrey individuals in Wales for the period c. 1060 to c. 1350. This source provides a thorough analysis by Darrell Wolcott, Center for the Study of Ancient Wales, of the various sources used to research those Aubrey/Awbreys in addition to some beyond c. 1350.
The WikiTree profile Awbrey-17 was created through the import of David Rentschler Family Tree_2010-09-30.ged on 01 October 2010. Source citation S48.
The WikiTree profile Aubrey-34 was created on Sep 18, 2011 by Grant Meadors through the import of Grant_David_Meadors_2008-02-17.ged (prior to import, this record was last changed 18:56:22 6 FEB 2008). It included "Reference: 790" but no sources.
Liz Shifflett (16x-gr-granddaughter) adopted orphaned profile Aubrey-34 on April 25, 2015.
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Aubrey-34 and Awbrey-17 appear to represent the same person because: Hi! These profiles are ready to be merged. It doesn't matter to me whether Aubrey or Awbrey is the final LNAB. While most sources seem to have "Aubrey", I think Awbrey was the more usual spelling used by this branch of the family. Cheers, Liz
I arrived at this Richard coming from the ancestor who arrived in England with William of Normandy in 1066 & I assumed 1295 (birth year this profile carried originally) was a century typo, because 1195 fit better with the lineage given by Theophilus Jones in his History of the County of Brecknock - but he must have missed a couple of generations, because coming the other way (from Richard's wife Creslie), 1295 is better (and source is better: Bartrum).
update: I've asked that the profile for his son Walter, Awbrey-16, be protected to facilitate the merge with Aubrey-32. Once it is, the unmerged match can move to a proposed merge. Thanks!
I think the profiles for sons Walter are for the same person, and I posted on your Walter's profile "Gruffydd ap Davydd ap Sion ap Morus ap David ap Morgan Awbre Esg: ap Gwallter Awbre o Aberkynvrig[6] ap Richart Awbre o Aberkynvrig val or blaen."... which clearly shows Walter as son of Richard. And Aubrey-33 (John) is shown as son of Richard & Creslie (ap Elidur instead of ferch Philip). I think Dwnn's Visitations to Wales is correct in this case, and Walter is son of Richard. So... unless you disagree, I'll disconnect John & unk. ap Thomas as parents of Walter Aubrey-32 and propose that profile merge into Awbrey-16. Thanks! Liz
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"Abercynrig, Wales" ... does it matter that Brecon was dropped, or is it already covered in the category " Brecknockshire, Wales"?
Aubrey-34 and Awbrey-17 appear to represent the same person because: Hi! These profiles are ready to be merged. It doesn't matter to me whether Aubrey or Awbrey is the final LNAB. While most sources seem to have "Aubrey", I think Awbrey was the more usual spelling used by this branch of the family. Cheers, Liz
I arrived at this Richard coming from the ancestor who arrived in England with William of Normandy in 1066 & I assumed 1295 (birth year this profile carried originally) was a century typo, because 1195 fit better with the lineage given by Theophilus Jones in his History of the County of Brecknock - but he must have missed a couple of generations, because coming the other way (from Richard's wife Creslie), 1295 is better (and source is better: Bartrum).