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Johann Elias (Auer) Ours (1700 - abt. 1788)

Johann Elias (Elias) [uncertain] Ours formerly Auer
Born in Margraviate of Baden-Durlach, Heiliges Römisches Reichmap
Brother of [half]
Husband of — married 21 Jan 1738 in Wilferdingen, Karlsruhe, Margraviate of Baden-Durlach, Heiliges Römisches Reichmap
Descendants descendants
Died about at about age 88 in Hardy, Virginiamap
Profile last modified | Created 6 Jan 2018
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Biography

Johann was born about 1700 in Germany. Johann, his wife Catharina Barbara Matthias and son Johannes Auer immigrated to America on 1 Oct 1753, arriving in Philadelphia from Hamburg on the ship Good Hope. After their arrival, they adopted the American spelling of Ours for their last name. He passed away in 1789.

Research Notes

  • On the passenger list for the ship Good Hope, Johann identified himself as Elias Auer. Due to this, his preferred name has been set as Elias although there is no other proof this was his preferred name.
  • Ursula Hoggin is marked as uncertain for the mother due to no sources to verify this. The only Ursula Hoggin that has been found, as of 21 Nov 2018, was born way too late to be the mother. This is not to say there is not an older Ursula Hoggin that could be the mother.
  • Upon arriving in America, the Auer family adopted the surname Our(s), the American spelling of their name. The descendants of this specific family have all used the surname Ours.
  • Common issues discovered during research are the immigrants being listed with their American name as their birth name instead of their true birth name from the country in which they were born. Also their have been times when the given name has also been replaced with the American name. In some cases the American surname has replaced the actual name of ancestors that did not immigrate.

Sources

  • "Deutschland Geburten und Taufen, 1558-1898," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VHQ6-4JJ : 11 February 2018), Johann Elias Auer in entry for Johannes Auer, 08 Nov 1739; citing ; FHL microfilm 1,238,362.
  • "Deutschland Heiraten, 1558-1929," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VCBN-S72 : 11 February 2018), Johann Elias Auer and Catharina Barbara Matthias, 21 Jan 1738; citing Evangelisch, Wilferdingen, Karlsruhe, Baden; FHL microfilm 1,238,362.
  • Strassburger, Ralph Beaver. Pennsylvania German Pioneers. Vol. 1. 3 vols. Norristown, PA: Pennsylvania German Society, 1934. Accessed November 15, 2018. https://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/006785559/Home. Elias Auer (Johann Elias Auer) arrival in America, 1 Oct 1753; Pg 574




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I have a YouTube video that shows just how much Europe has changed over a thousand years, and if I can post it on WikiTree I will.

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1i1e6h

posted by Keith Mann Spencer
that would be great will check out the video
Birth

1700 Karlsruhe, Baden-Württemberg, Germany May I change birth place since I am profile manager

Holy Roman Empire would be the correct designation for the place in 1700, since there was no Germany then.

Is the location of birth you want to use in what is now known as Karlsruhe, Baden-Württemberg, Germany?

If so, you could include in the biography "in what is now known as....." along with an explanation of what source tells you this.

thank you will do after I check some more info ,
I would be inclined to put Wilferdingen, Baden-Durlach, Holy Roman Empire in the birthplace field, and mark it Uncertain.

The sources cited here indicate that he married and had at least one child in Wilferdingen, so it is reasonable to guess that he was born there (but it's not certain). At the time Wilferdingen apparently was in the Markgrafschaft (Margraviate) Baden-Durlach. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilferdingen it appears that Wilferdingen is now part of what might be called "greater Karlsruhe," but Wilferdingen seems to have existed long before Karlsruhe. Unless there is a source contemporary to his life that says he was born in Karlsruhe, it doesn't seem accurate to say he was born there.

posted by Ellen Smith
Actually for the Palatine Project we use the original German for Holy Roman Empire...Heiliges Römisches Reich, with the "in what is now known as..." explanation in the bio as suggested by Katherine.
posted by Kie (Entrikin) Zelms
Looking up Karlsruhe in an attempt to place it historically (there was no "Germany" in 1700), it turns out the town was founded in 1715, about 15 years after the birth of this person.

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