Madockawando Abenaki
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Madockawando Abenaki (abt. 1630 - abt. 1698)

Sachem Madockawando "mαtáhkʷəhαnəto" Abenaki
Born about in Wabenaki Confederacymap
Son of and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
[spouse(s) unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died about at about age 68 in Acadie, Nouvelle-Francemap
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Biography

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He was not of French or Acadian ancestry but he lived in the area which came to be called Acadie by French settlers.
Madockawando ( mαtáhkʷəhαnəto) was born about 1630 and died about 1698[1][2].
Madockawando was a Grand Sachem (Chief) of the Penobscot (Panawahpskek), who are an indigenous people of the Northeastern Woodlands, located in present-day Maine USA. The Penobscot were grouped linguistically and geographically as Abenaki, an Algonquian-speaking people.[3]
His spouse is unknown but we do know he had two daughters and likely at least one son.
  1. Marie Mathilde Pidianske
  2. Marie Pidiwammiska
Madowackawando was noted for his "high character for ability, courage and humanity."[4]. This character is demonstrated by "The historians of the war have all observed that the prisoners under Madockawando were remarkably well treated.[5]
He was known at the Chief of all the Indians in the Eastern parts of Penobscot.[6]
He passed away in 1698, before October 14 according to correspondence of that time that "Major Converse and Capt Alden . . . arriving at Penobscot on Octe. 14. 1698, were there informed, that Madockawando, the noted sagamore, with several other sachims of the east, were lately dead"[7].

Research Notes

Penobscot Culture and History of the Nation; also interesting information about the culture, language, etc.
A previous version of this profile claimed that Madockawando was born in 1630 to Powhatan and an Abenaki Bride named Ottopomtacks and that after his parents death, he was Adopted & Raised by his Mother's Brother, the Grand Sachem Assaminasqua.
A previous version of this profile listed Matilda Bomazeen as the wife of Madockawando. No documentation has been found to support this claim. Matilda Bomazeen was removed from this Chief as there was no evidence that she was that particular woman who was his wife, not even in story form. We know he had a wife and children, but not their names except for the one daughter. In one account, the wife was said to be the daughter of a Chief, but not which one. (Bourque-573 21:06, 7 June 2020 (UTC)) Further sources identify two daughters of the great chief.[8]
Also removed sources that referred to the Powahatan relationship that was removed previously.(Bourque-573 21:06, 7 June 2020 (UTC))

Adopted son of Assiminasqua
Father d'Entremont, a noted Acadian historian, says that "We know of a certain number of exploits of Sagamore Madockawando, but nothing much is known of his family. Being an adopted son, he could have lost his parents early in life. His adoptive father was the great Sagamore Assiminasqua[9]. I was unable to find

He is thought to have had at least one son through the writings of La Mothe Cadillac
who calls him Mataknando, tell us in 1692 that he had a son, who then was in France. [10]

Cotton Mather, La Mothe Cadillac and John E Godfrey were all included in the Collection of the Maine HIstorical Society, First Series, VI (1859) pages 543, 183, and 45, respectively. There might be much more information available in that volume. Here is a list of the volumes in the 1st and second series (all non-circulating) https://minerva.maine.edu/search~S24?/X1st+series&searchscope=24&SORT=D/X1st+series&searchscope=24&SORT=D&SUBKEY=1st+series/1,45,45,B/holdings&FF=X1st+series&3,3,

The Volume King Philip's War : based on the archives and records of Massachusetts, Plymouth, Rhode Island and Connecticut, and contemporary letters and accounts : with biographical and topographical notes / by George W. Ellis and John E. Morris. has been noted in Amazon that "This book has been considered by academicians and scholars of great significance and value to literature."

Sources

  1. Georges Cerbelaud Salagnac, “ABBADIE DE SAINT-CASTIN, JEAN-VINCENT D’, Baron de Saint-Castin,” in Dictionary of Canadian Biography, vol. 2, University of Toronto/Université Laval, 2003–, accessed December 23, 2013.(Note does not mention a wife, does mention a daughter.)
  2. Madockawando (Wikipedia) (Note does not mention wife or daughters)
  3. Madockawando, profile on Penobscot Cultural & Historic Preservation. Accessed 24 Nov 2019 (Note, this unsourced profile mentions that he married a Chief's daughter (no name of her or the Chief) and that the only known of his children was Pidianiske named Marie Mathilde)
  4. Rev. Father Clarence d'Entremont, "French Canadian and Acadian Genealogie Review, Vol III, No 1, spring 1971, pp. 9-28 citing Godfrey, John E, Coll. of the Maine Historical Society, 1st Series, Vol II, (1876), p. 45,
  5. Rev. Father Clarence d'Entremont, "French Canadian and Acadian Genealogie Review, Vol III, No 1, spring 1971, pp. 9-28 citing George W. Ellis and John E. Morris. King Philip's War : based on the archives and records of Massachusetts, Plymouth, Rhode Island and Connecticut, and contemporary letters and accounts : with biographical and topographical notes, The Grafton Press, N.Y. 1906, p 200 (note 2) Footnote 16 Footnote 16
    Hubbard says of him, in connection with Squando, sagamore of the Saco tribe, "They are said to be by them that know them, a strange kind of moralized savages. Grave and serious in their speech and carriage and not without some show of a kind of Religion, which no doubt but they have learned from the Prince of Darkness (by the hope of some Paptistsº in those parts), that can transform himself into an Angel of Light; under that shape the better to carry on the designes of his Kingdom." The historians of the war have all observed that the prisoners under Madockawando were remarkably well treated.

    see also Appendix for more mentions
  6. Bahar, Matthew R. "The Sea of Trouble we are Swimming in": People of the Dawnland and the Enduring Pursuit of a Native Atlantic World, Norman OK, 2012 p. 159 citing Bruce J. Bourque, “Ethnicity on the Maritime Peninsula, 1600-1759,” Ethnohistory 36:3 (Summer 1989), 266-267;
    and
    Bruce J. Bourque, Twelve Thousand Years: American Indians in Maine, 144, 152-153; 266;
    and
    William Hubbard, A Narrative of the Troubles with the Indians in New-England, 48; “Letter from Anthony Brockhouse and others at Pemaquid to the Governor and Council,” July 17, 1677, MSA, Massachusetts Archives Collection – SC1-45X – Vol. 69: f. 155.
  7. Rev. Father Clarence d'Entremont, "French Canadian and Acadian Genealogie Review, Vol III, No 1, spring 1971, pp. 9-28 citing Mather, Cotton. Magnalia Christi Americana: or The Ecclesiastical History of New-England, from its First Planting in the Year of 1620, unto the Year of Our Lord, 1698, in seven books, in two Volumes. First American Edition from the London Edition of 1702, Hartford, (Connecticut), pulbished by Silas Andrus, printed by S. Converse, New Haven, 1820, Vol 2., p 555
  8. Rev. Father Clarence d'Entremont, "French Canadian and Acadian Genealogie Review, Vol III, No 1, spring 1971, pp. 9-28
    p. 10 Footnote 5
    Although the story with regard to his having married two indian women has been proven to be false, the contention of his having children from two sisters is collaborated already in 1687 by de Menneval, sucessor of Perrot, as Goveernor of Acadia, when he writes, December 1st, of the Sieur de St-Castin as "having with him two daughters of the chief of (the) savages by whom he has many children". (Hon John E. Godfrey,"Jean Vincent, Baron de Saint Castin", in Coll. of the Maine Historical Society, 1st Series, Vol II, (1876), p. 55, footnote
  9. Rev. Father Clarence d'Entremont, "French Canadian and Acadian Genealogie Review, Vol III, No 1, spring 1971, pp. 9-28 citing Collection of the Maine Historical Society, 2nd series, Vol VI (1901), "The Baxter Manuscripts", (Vol 6), pp 149-172 Vol 06 downloadable PDF, searchable for Mackawando and Madakwando
    and
    George W. Ellis and John E. Morris. King Philip's War, The Gerafton Press, N.Y. 1906, p 302
  10. Rev. Father Clarence d'Entremont, "French Canadian and Acadian Genealogie Review, Vol III, No 1, spring 1971, pp. 9-28 citing Collection of the Maine HIstorical Society, 1st series, Vol VI, (1859), p. 283

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I have documentation now that he died before October 14, 1698. This by Father d'Entremont, a reliable Acadian researcher, citing Cotton Mather who wrote at that time "Major Converse and Capt Alden . . . arriving at Penobscot on Octe 14, 1698, were there informed, that Madockawando, the noted sagamore, with several other sachims of the east, were lately dead," citing three sources that I can detail in the entry.

d'Entremont also says that he was an adopted son citing La Mothe Cadillac saying this in 1692, citation from the Coll. of the Maine Historical Society.

Finally that he was delivered to Governor William Phipps on August 11, 1693 citing Cotton Mather from the same sources.

I would like to add these to the profile. Can provide more detail in the entries. Please advise if you are comfortable having these reports dated at the time of his life and death included in the profile.

posted by Cindy (Bourque) Cooper
It sounds like the Cotton Mather references are contemporary to the time period, so yes, please add. I'm less certain about references from the Maine Historical Society. Is there actually a 1692 document?
posted by Jillaine Smith
OK I'll work on that. Maybe I will be able to see the Maine Historical Society source. If not, I'll put it in Research Notes for further investigation. Thanks, Jilliane
posted by Cindy (Bourque) Cooper
Thank *you,* Cindy!


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posted by Jillaine Smith
Can someone help me verify if Joseph d'Abbadie de Saint Castin is the grandson of Madockawando?

https://books.google.ca/books?id=gCwEAAAAYAAJ&q=penobscot&redir_esc=y#v=snippet&q=Castine&f=false Page. 368

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_d%27Abbadie_de_Saint-Castin

posted by Jason Grant
I don't think that's possible. I think most of what you find as claims regarding his family is at best undocumented and often fiction.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
edited by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Yes, Joseph d'Abbadie de Saint-Castin, the son of Jean-Vincent d'Abbadie de Saint-Castin, is the grandson of Madockawando
posted by W LaViolette
I too agree that Joseph is Madockwando's grandson. Joseph is son of Jean Vincent d'Abbadie and his wife Marie Mathilde Pidianske, daughter of Madockwando. This is given by preeminent Acadian researcher Stephen A White, who has studied Acadians for decades. I added his verbiage about Joseph to Joseph's profile. However, Kathie Forbes is very knowledgeable about indigenous people and I would like to hear more from her about why not. It is true that many fictional stories are put forth about natives. White does not give stories, he gives facts. I checked his "corrections" and there were none for Joseph.

The book you give above does not provide sources but that author also wrote the Biography article which usually are well sourced. The Wikipedia cites the same book, as well as the Biography which we do have on Joseph's profile. I would like to have some sources about the Wikipedia article that says they were Mi'kmaq tribe affiliation and that Joseph died at 111 because that is not the information we have from White who says he died after March 2, 1751 but does not give a year or age at death. He would have provided that if known. Cindy Bourque Cooper, co-leader, Acadians Project, one of the managers of Joseph's profile

posted by Cindy (Bourque) Cooper
Is there any contemporaneous record that connects Joseph to Madockawando? I know there are records that connect his father to Marie, who was the daughter of Madockawando. Joseph was recognized as his father's son, but was he recognized in his lifetime as the descendant of Madockawando?
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
HI, Kathie, I was not aware that public recognition of grandchildren during their lifetime was necessary to confirm a relationship. We have always understood that the father of the mother was a grandfather. Is there something different about this family that would require this? I would not say "the" descendant as there were a number of siblings in that family and possibly from other children of Madockawando.
posted by Cindy (Bourque) Cooper
There are so many "traditional" family members for prominent Native Americans that we'd like to see something close to the time period that supports the claims. There does not appear to be much information about Madockawando or his family from his lifetime.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
The d'Abbadies and Madockawando go hand in hand. All of Saint-Castin's children are Madockawando's grandchildren. I am descended from both Anastasie d'Abbadie de Saint-Castin and her sister Ursuline d'Abbadie de Saint-Castin, whose great-grandchildren married each other.
posted by W LaViolette
Still looking for the name of his wife. None of the sources here or on the Bomazeen profile give a name to his wife. How do we know she is the right one?
posted by Cindy (Bourque) Cooper
We don't know her name because she doesn't exist anywhere.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Shall we remove her since she doesn't exist anywhere?
posted by Cindy (Bourque) Cooper
I would detach her and put a research note or disputed family note on each profile saying something like "A previous version of this profile listed Matilda Bomazeen as the wife of Madockawando. Not documentation has been found to support this claim."
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Thank you, Kathie, please review and edit if needed.
posted by Cindy (Bourque) Cooper
Now that he’s merged, can Madockawando be detached from the Powhatan woman showing as his mother? She is a real person, but not his mother.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Mother detached.

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posted by Jillaine Smith
Can we please get this LNAB changed to Abenaki so his duplicate can be merged? I think it’s important to use consistent tribe names and spellings. “Grand Abenaquis” is not correct. “Abenaki” is the most commonly accepted name and spelling for this tribal group.
posted on Grand Abenaquis-1 (merged) by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
LNAB changed; merge completed. Thanks for the ongoing nudging, Kathie.
posted by Jillaine Smith
"Abenaquis" (actually, "Abénaquis") is just the French version of "Abenaki". The French pronunciation (something like ah-bay-nah-KEE) is similar to the English. (See https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ab%C3%A9naquis.) As a chief/sachem, he may have been referred to by the epithet "Grand Abénaquis" (Great Abenaki). Obviously, a title is not appropriate as a LNAB, but keep in mind that Madockawando and his family were much more deeply connected to French-speaking Acadians than English New-Englanders. A LNAB of "Abénaquis" would be completely appropriate if not preferable.
posted by Antoine Alarie
Yes, but there are already other individuals with the “Abenaki” spelling as LNAB, so it makes sense to be consistent.
posted by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
I see that his wikipedia entry claims he was the *adopted* son of Assaminasqua, but unfortunately cites no source for this claim. Anyone have a source for the relationship? Thanks.
posted on Grand Abenaquis-1 (merged) by Jillaine Smith
(Once the last name is changed, I'll project-protect this profile since it has become the subject of some controversy.)
posted on Grand Abenaquis-1 (merged) by Jillaine Smith
While the LNAB is "better", to align with Wikitree recommendations, it should be changed to Penobscot. We use tribe/nation names as LNAB for Native Americans in the pre-surname adoption era. Would a profile manager please do that? Thanks.
posted on Grand Abenaquis-1 (merged) by Jillaine Smith
Powhatan-287 and Grand Abenaquis-1 appear to represent the same person because: Madockawando was a Penobscot/Abenaki man. The project protected Acadian profile is more accurate and has a better LNAB.
posted on Grand Abenaquis-1 (merged) by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Theresa,

WikiTree's Native Americans project, specifically, and the WikiTree community generally, ask all members to please focus on what the documents and evidence says. The honor code we all signed here requests among other things, that we assume the best of each other. (See Help: Honor Code)

Theresa, please share what evidence you have that this Native American was related to Powhatan.

Also, I see that "Shawnee Heritage" by Don Greene is listed among the sources. Please see the following page for why we do not accept his work as a source: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Shawnee_Heritage_Fraud

Thank you.

-- Jillaine, volunteer WikiTree Project Leader; co-leader of WikiTree's Native Americans project

posted on Powhatan-287 (merged) by Jillaine Smith
Kathie Parks-Forbes Parks-2399

Thank you for your unsolicited opinion, about an American Indian Family which you have absolutely no connection or knowledge of. For your information; "This Man" is one of my Many Direct Grandparents. For generations My Family have kept the Records & Memories against all attempts to Erase & Make Us Forget by the Colonial Body. Not only do we have the Memories & Records, but we also have the DNA to Confirm. You know nothing of how the Eastern Tribes were pushed ever Northward where we had to Reform at St Francis (Odanak). Many of the Eastern Tribes have Treaties & Trade of Long-standing. No such is possible without the Treaty being Sealed in the Blood. This is the Law of the Land. The child born to such a Union is able to Claim & Be Claimed by all parties...

posted on Powhatan-287 (merged) by [Living Ware]
This man was a Penobscot Indian from Maine. He had no connection to the Powhatan Confederacy or to Tahtacope.
posted on Powhatan-287 (merged) by Kathie (Parks) Forbes
Grand Abenaquis-1 and Abenaki-5 appear to represent the same person because: Same name (versions), same birth and death dates, same child.
posted on Grand Abenaquis-1 (merged) by Cindy (Bourque) Cooper
UNKNOWN-182181 and Grand Abenaquis-1 appear to represent the same person because: Unknown profile is empty. Merging them eliminates an unconnected, undocumented profile.
posted on Grand Abenaquis-1 (merged) by Cindy (Bourque) Cooper

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