How do I find Irish records prior to 1845?

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Since compulsory registration for all residents in Ireland only began in 1864 and even Non-Roman Catholic Marriages were registered after 1 Apr 1845, how do I find any information about births or marriages before 1845? All of the resources I've seen so far are after 1845.
in The Tree House by John Sigh G2G6 Mach 1 (19.2k points)
For all of you that have been so helpful this is all I know:

Henderson Merrick was born in Ireland around 1820. Prior to 1845 he married Eleanor C Graham, the daughter of Richard Graham and [Unknown] Wilson. They had six children, the first Margaret was born before May 1845 in Ireland. It is believed that Henderson came to American with his wife, Eleanor, and infant daughter Margaret aboard the ship Fanny arriving in Philadelphia on 12 May 1845. He died on 10 Dec 1899 in Kennett Square, Chester, Pennsylvania. Eleanor died on 7 Feb 1907 in Kennett, Chester, Pennsylvania.

I have yet to find anything of their lives in Ireland prior to 1845.

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Check out the Irish National Archives:

https://www.nationalarchives.ie/

For instance, I found what appears to be an 1816 application for marriage license for my 4-g-grandparents at this subpage:

http://census.nationalarchives.ie/search/dm/index.jsp

Also, if you are lucky you could find a land record or even a marriage agreement in the Registry of Deeds:

https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/185720?availability=Family%20History%20Library

These can be hard to navigate and search, so Nick Reddan created a terrific ongoing project to create a searchable database of all of the names in these deeds:

https://irishdeedsindex.net/index.php

by Barry Smith G2G6 Pilot (298k points)
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Good stuff Barry. I was hopeful with the national archives but no luck so far. I even tried looking up the Eleanor Graham's father Richard Graham who married [Unknown] Wilson but no Graham - Wilson or Merrick - Graham connection. It's a mystery.
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Try familysearch.org

There are at least 40 named John Murphy who were married in Ireland between 1800 and 1840. There was a John Sigh married in Ross, County Cork, Ireland in 1834.
by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.6m points)
edited by Frank Gill
Thanks Frank. I'm actually looking for info on my 3x gg parents, Henderson Merrick and Eleanor C Graham. They left Ireland in 1845. Funny to see a Sigh in Ireland. It was an Americanization of the Italian name Saia that my grandfather changed.
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Hi John,

Roman Catholic parish records are probably your best source. They generally go back to the early 1800s,though some parishes have gaps and incomplete records. These are available on the subscription site www.rootsireland.ie and also for free on www.findmypast.ie, though I find roots Ireland to be the most complete. These parish records contain baptism and marriage records. A good piece of information is that they provide godparents and witnesses names, who were often relatives or neighbour's.

The Tithe Applotment Books are available on www.nationalarchives.ie. They are from the 1820s and 1830s. Back then, anyone with enough land of rateable value paid a tithe for the upkeep of the Church of Ireland, even if they were Catholic. The name of the landowner, the amount of land they owned, and the amount of their rent and tithes were recorded. If your ancestor does not appear on this though, it could be because they did not own enough land to pay a tithe.

The Flax Growers List 1797 provides sparse information but if you know the area your family would have lived around then, you might be able to find them. Back then the Irish Linen Board were trying to encourage people to plant to boost linen production and offered them free looms and spinning wheels as a reward. They made a list of all the farmers who signed up. It gives names and where they came from. This can be found on the free site www.failteromhat.ie

Irish Poverty Relief Loans can be found on www.findmypast.ie and are records of small loans poorer people took out during the 1840s. They provide the names of people, whet re they lived, the amount of the loan and the witnesses.

Hope some of this helps!

Alicia
by Alicia McCormack G2G6 Mach 1 (12.3k points)
I'm not sure my 3x gg parents, Henderson Merrick and Eleanor C Graham were Roman Catholic. When they were in America (Kennett Square, PA to be exact) they were Protestant. I also posted a message on the irelandxo.com message board. You gave me some good leads though. Thanks Alicia.
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Henderson Merrick, born Ireland in estimated year 1823. Lived in Philadelphia, Spruce ward, Philadelphia, PA in 1850. He was 27, Ellen Merrik was also 27, Margaret was 5, Richard 3 and Robert 0 at the time of the 1850 U.S. Census.

Henderson Merrick immigrated to Philadelphia, PA, was born in Ireland and the Ship he traveled on was called Barque Fanny.

Both of the above were found at familysearch.org .
by Frank Gill G2G Astronaut (2.6m points)
Yep. I have all that. Everything since the 1850 census. I just can't find anything from Ireland. Thanks.
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The Church of Ireland parish registers are mostly not yet online, but there is a digitization project underway.
by Ann Donnelly G2G3 (3.4k points)

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