If I could just find a truly notable ancestor...

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I am currently working on research for my best friend who is purportedly a distant descendant (probably some sort of cousin) of Daniel Webster, the famous senator, and I just realized how many books and genealogies surround that last name! My names are much more of a mystery or they're Irish or Sicilian so there are very few well sourced thatbooks and genealogies just on a specific ancestor of mine! I would like to find just one surname that is well studied that directly relates to me. Just one, is it possible?

 

Mike
in The Tree House by Michael Hruska G2G6 Mach 5 (57.9k points)
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Hi Michael,

Send me some of the Irish name and I'll see what I can connect them to.

All the best

Billy
Here you go, Billy:

Michael Maloney: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Maloney-485

His family lived in Hornell, New York

Mary Maloney (Long): http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Long-4819

I am not super certain that I chose the right parents for her but they seemed to make sense at the time

Thomas J Davey Sr: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Davey-328

His information since coming to the states I am certain of anything befiore, I am not

Last but not least, the May line:

Bridget (McGinty) May: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/McGinty-34

her parents were recently discovered on her death certificate but nowhere else

Bryan/Bernard May: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/May-2238

You've seen my troubles with him

Thanks again,

Mike
What a fine post and thread, Michael.
Hi Michael,

I remember Bryan & Bridget :) I've had a few of those problems myself.

I'll see what I can do over the next few days/week and get back to you with what I find or don't find.

All the best

Billy
oops I put my comment in the wrong place...  please scroll down :)

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Michael,

One approach is to find a Gateway Ancestor.  The Puritan Great Migration project is one group that might help and New Netherlands Settlers is another.

The key here is to find a Colonial Ancestor, that increases your odds of finding a Gateway ancestor that has been well researched.

I will take a look at your tree and see what you have and if I can find any other ideas.

With your Irish line, hit and miss and the luck o'the Irish.

Update: Keep working the lines that have not yet "crossed the pond".  If you can get back into the early 1700's or the 1600's you may find some luck.

I am not familar with Scilian genealogy so I have nothing to share.  

Michael your efforts are well recognized.  In fact, I would call you Notable, if that helps?
by Michael Stills G2G6 Pilot (532k points)
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Thanks, Mike!

Being called notable does help haha. It was one of those times when you just need to vent. I love the struggle of looking through genealogical records for that one ancestor tha's been evading you but it is just frustrating sometimes to look through someone's genealogical research and see how easy it is to research and then look at yours that hasn't changed in three years as much as this one has in a day.

On a side note, it turns out that my best friend is actually related to Noah Webster, the creator of America's first true dictionary!

Mike

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Michael,

You're young!  Give it time!  That said, it took me over fifteen years of research before I finally made a connection to a well researched ancestor.  It came about, not from searching the internet, but in working at the NC State Archives looking through old wills and estate records.  I located a will of a man who was the brother of my 'supposed' ancestor.  The man named all of his brother's sons, one of whom was my known ancestor.  In that one find, I was then able to trace back to Nantucket and connect to many of the founders, which also ended up giving me a connection to the Mayflower.

I've been able, since then, to end up locating other 'notable' ancestors, and certainly it's exciting and fun to have research already done and be able to read books and articles about the lives of your ancestors.

On another note, have you had a DNA test done?  I'd recommend getting both yourself and your parents (if they're still alive) tested.  I had my dad's Y-DNA done a dozen years ago, which proved his descent from an immigrant Irish ancestor back in the 1600s.  Recently I had autosomal done on my folks and myself, which has allowed me to phase my results.  Thus I can tell whether I'm matching people on my mom's or dad's side.  (Because sometimes you will have matches that don't match with either of your parents, all due to you inheriting some DNA segments from a distant ancestor).   Don't get me started on DNA.... it's my new favorite thing!

My Irish and Scottish lines continue to be large stumbling stones.  Ultimately DNA will help with that.

Hang in there, and keep researching.  Your day will come!

by Darlene Athey-Hill G2G6 Pilot (550k points)
Hi Darlene,

it just so happens that's his Mom's side is easy to trace back but his dad's side which I will create a big long post about later is I think a fun potential project all of its own. He supposedly has a great-grandfather with a criminal mind about him and even had to change his name! Two sides to every family I guess!

 

As for DNA, I do not have the money to do that. Well, at least not the money to do that and be comfortable while at school. Maybe I could ask for a DNA package from my parents for Christmas! Can you do multiple people with one set?

 

Thank you,

Mike Hruska

Skeletons in the closet can be SO interesting!

As to DNA, each person has to have their own kit.  I've always thought getting them for Christmas or a birthday is a great idea.  I totally understand a student not being able to afford a DNA kit (or preferring to spend the $$ elsewhere  wink ).

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For Sicilian ancestors, go to Familysearch.org. I have found all of the third great and some of the fourth great grandparents on my husband's paternal side. I am hoping to find everyone who ever lived in his ancestoral town of Alia in the Province of Palermo someday, and will probably start a One Place Study for Alia.

Sharon
by Living Troy G2G6 Pilot (177k points)
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Questions from A Worker Who Reads

 

Who built Thebes of the seven gates?
In the books you will find the name of kings.
Did the kings haul up the lumps of rock?
And Babylon, many times demolished.
Who raised it up so many times? In what houses
Of gold-glittering Lima did the builders live?
Where, the evening that the Wall of China was finished
Did the masons go? Great Rome
Is full of triumphal arches. Who erected them? Over whom
Did the Caesars triumph? Had Byzantium, much praised in song,
Only palaces for its inhabitants? Even in fabled Atlantis
The night the ocean engulfed it
The drowning still bawled for their slaves.

The young Alexander conquered India.
Was he alone?
Caesar beat the Gauls.
Did he not have even a cook with him?
Philip of Spain wept when his armada
Went down. Was he the only one to weep?
Frederick the Second won the Seven Years' War. Who
Else won it?

Every page a victory.
Who cooked the feast for the victors?
Every ten years a great man.
Who paid the bill?

So many reports.
So many questions.

 

 

"Fragen eines lesenden Arbeiters" - translated by M. Hamburger
from Bertolt Brecht, Poems 1913-1956, Methuen, N.Y., London, 1976

 

I think the answers to the questions are the ones for most of us.

by Helmut Jungschaffer G2G6 Pilot (611k points)
Be careful what you wish for (one notable figure).  Recently found a very distant link to no other than THE Benedict Arnold!!  On my husband's side haha!  But at least HE was descended from a LORD :)

 

Good luck with your research :)
Oh dear, Carol! I found a person with the same name in the same graveyard as my great-grandfather. He (the person) had been hung for shooting his sister's husband. But then (wonder of wonders) I found the actual ancestor who via obit (1935) named all of his relatives including my father. Whew" (Explain "murderer" to your children and their children. )

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