Allston/Alston - John b 1660 & John baptized 1668/9 the same person?

Question

Hi! I've been trying to resolve two sons of William and Thomasin (Brooke) Alston: 

• John Alston baptized 1668/9, covered in a footnote by Richardson in his Royal Ancestry but apparently died unmarried
• John Allston born 1660 with wife and son and apparently the progenitor of the South Carolina Allstons (if I understand correctly).

I'm told that Gary Boyd Roberts is the authority for John born 1660 with descendants. I don't have access to either the online database (which I don't believe is the latest in any case) or his most recent publication of Royal Immigrants of 900 Immigrants.

Could someone who does check please?

I'm thinking that the information from Richardson might be inaccurate (see Alston-247 & also his father's: William Alston-84). But that doesn't necessarily mean that the John with wife Elizabeth Tungis & son Peter Allston of South Carolina is the correct son of William and Thomasin.

It was suggested that the two be merged, but John (Alston-247) is managed by the Magna Carta Project as a Richardson-documented Gateway Ancestor. To attach a son to the profile (in this case, Peter) would require clear primary proof, and I haven't found any such proof. It was my understanding that Roberts' Royal Immigrants of 900 Immigrants does not list sources, but if I'm wrong & he gives primary sources for Peter, son of John, son of William, please share!

Thanks!

Answer 1

John Alston christened 25 Feb 1669 at Pavenham, Bedford, England shows the same parents, father William Alston and mother Thomasin. England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975  familysearch.org

John Allston born 1660 at Allston-49 appears to have been christened 9 years after his birth.

Comments

From what I found over the past few days, I think that these are two different Johns. Today, I was reading through one of the cited sources & it appears there is support for that. I just posted to father William's profile:

Cresswell's Stemmata Alstoniana (page 400) concludes that the son of William (eldest son of John Alston and Dorothy Temple) could have "[c]onceivably... been the John Allston of St. John's, Berkeley S. Carolina, whose will is dated ... January 2nd, 1718 or the John Alston of Chowan County, N. Carolina, whose will is dated September, 1754. But in my opinion the mere existence of two Johns—contemporaries—in America disposes of the claims of both in the absence of prima facie evidence. The fact that one of the daughters of the first John was called Tomassin is not evidence."^[6]

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The John Alston of North Carolina, will written in 1754 is the son of Solomon Alston, researchers have clearly identified him.  The book "Alston's and Alston's" this isn't the whole title, it was  written I think in 1902, mixed up the John's. See this link to find documentation on NC Alston:  The King's Candlesticks: Pedigrees Col John ALSTON of Wethersfield ESS & Nth Carolina America. [543]