Adding "missing women" in Wikidata

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Hello all

I'm new to Wikitree (less than a week) and doing my homework so far, adding my ancestors to the global tree, seeking connections. 

A bit of background. I've been involved in linked data since about 2001, and interested in genealogy data bases seriously only since last year. Of course I've been looking to genealogy with my linked data glasses on, and have looked in particular to Wikidata (of which I am an episodic editor).

From a quite long list of questions at the interface of Wikitree and Wikidata, I would like to begin by one which I hope will drive attention from some people in this community, and not only women! 

I shortly describe the issue in this short page in my Cahier de généalogie Half the sky of Wikidata. In short, it points at the strong gender bias in Wikidata at large, and in Wikidata genealogy data in particular. For example, over 200,000 "items" of type "human" are linked to their father, less than 45,000 to their mother. 

There is in Wikidata (like in Wikipedia) this rather vague thing called "Notability". My take on this is that among all human achievements, being a mother is one of the most notable, without which no one of us would be here to speak. And being the mother and spouse of two "notable" people should be enough to be notable. So, the number of mothers in Wikidata should be roughly the same as the number of fathers.

What has Wikitree to do with this? I have built a simple query selecting son-father both declared in Wikidata, both bearing a Wikitree ID, but mother missing in Wikidata. As I write, this query yields 9979 results. If you switch father and mother properties in the query, there is only 425 results! See above for interpretation ...

If you take one of those son-father pairs and look them up in Wikitree, most of the time the mother is identified there. If you can edit Wikidata, it's easy to go back there and create the mother "item", of course with her Wikitree id, link her to her spouse and child(ren), and maybe to other relatives, because this mother will also often be a daughter, sister ... of some other "notable" people. And while you are at it, add some missing Wikitree ids around the family, as needed. Of course this should be limited to people with no privacy issues.

Adding those "missing mothers" in Wikidata is a good opportunity to strengthen the Wikitree-Wikidata connection, hit the nail of motherhood as a sufficient reason for notability, and qualify Wikitree as a reliable source for it.

If enough people are interested in working on this missing mother project and need a little help in editing Wikidata (which is not harder than editing Wikitree) I can provide a few slides of tutorial.

Thanks for your attention!

EDIT : Issue partially adressed by the Data Doctors team with the new Data Error 544 : https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:DBE_544

WikiTree profile: Space:DBE_544
in The Tree House by Bernard Vatant G2G6 Pilot (176k points)
edited by Bernard Vatant
Sweet! Glad someone is paying attention to this!

Thanks Jillaine! 

Would you like to participate? I just added to Wikidata the grandmother of Johann Sebastian Bach smiley, with her great family of musicians!

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Grabler-3

https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q63099450

Not available any time soon but I'll be watching and hopefully when things ease up a bit -- if they do -- I would love to play !

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+5 votes
I don't have time to get involved in this (far too many shiny things to chase already), but just wanted to say that's a really cool project!
by Kathleen Cobcroft G2G6 Pilot (105k points)

Thanks Kathleen for the nice words. I see on your profile that you have indeed already a lot of ongoing tasks smiley

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Bernard, I am behind the scenes of 99% of WikiTree links on WikiData.

Based on a weekly dump of wikitree I check all bioses for Wikipedia link. Currently 87500 unique links on 110000 profiles. 1600 of them are invalid. 86000 links points to 81000 wikidata items due to multiple languages. 23500 do not point to the human. that leaves 57500 links to a person in our profiles. Since the link often points to notable relative, only 67000 profiles have link to a person. I developed a set of rules, that define if the person is the same based on names and dates on both ends.43500 of them are connected from WikiData and 23500 have too much difference to let computer match them. It would introduce many errors.

The other 16000 were connected by relations with all the data checks in place.

Low number of connected mothers is the result of fewer womans on WikiData and on Last name change and computer can't decide if that are the same womans.

On Wikitree the gender ratio is almost 1:1, as you can see on WikiTree+ stats.

http://wikitree.sdms.si/default.htm?report=stat1&dataID=13&Year=0

There is also stat for number of wikidata links. http://wikitree.sdms.si/default.htm?report=stat1&dataID=501&Year=0

If there would be a wish to connect the profiles manually, I can prepare many reports showing possible candidates like this.

http://www.softdata.si/wt/WikiData/Barnet,_Hertfordshire.htm

or complete reports like this.

http://www.softdata.si/wt/WikiData/Wikipedia-Person_3.htm

I have many more like 

http://www.softdata.si/wt/WikiData/UnconnectedMother.htm

This are 3 years old, since I don't update them, but I could if needed.

by Aleš Trtnik G2G6 Pilot (813k points)
Thanks Aleš for all those resources!

I will look into them, and will certainly be back to you for more questions as needed.

In complement of my private message regarding backlinks from Wikitree to Wikidata, see what I did for https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Grabler-3.

I can't (yet) edit this pre-1700 profile because I'm too newbie, so I just added a comment  

Added to Wikidata https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q63099450 

Otherwise we have a template for external link to wikidata.

{{Wikidata|Q63099450}}

I used it on the profile, so you can see how it works.
Neat, thanks!

Among all your magic stats, is there a number/list of Wikitree profiles using this template?

Of course.

This one is provided by WikiTree:

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Wikidata

This one lists all parameters used on the template. URL changes each week.

http://www.softdata.si/wt/Templ_20190407/Template_Wikidata_Txt.htm

This one on WikiTree+ lists all profiles using this template:

https://wikitree.sdms.si/default.htm?report=srch1&Query=WIKIDATA&MaxProfiles=10000&SortOrder=Default&PageSize=10

And WikiTree+ has a magic word IsInWikiData, that lists all, that are linked from WikiData.

https://wikitree.sdms.si/default.htm?report=srch1&Query=isinwikidata&MaxProfiles=1000&SortOrder=Default&PageSize=10

Wow, that's a lot more of data magic :-)

 Thanks a lot!

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