Death date vs. interment date

Question

On my suggestions page it is recommended I correct the death date for George  W. Armistead. I have not yet found a death certificate or obituary, and the FAG date listed is his interment date. Should I use this or keep it just as month and year until more information is available? Also, how should I mark the status? Thanks.

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I think the way you have it is acceptable.  When I have this problem I just use the year and mark it as you have, Uncertain.  But I have no problem with the month in there as well as it is marked Uncertain.

I also add a note in the Biography as to why I feel the date is uncertain to give viewers a reason why it is so marked.

You might want to add the Find A Grave Template to his source so viewers can just click on that and go right to the Find A Grave Memorial page.  In this case it would be  {{FindAGrave|148325287}}

Any relation to General Lewis Armistead of Gettysburg fame?  I see George served the Confederate Forces in the Civil War as well. Take a look here The Cheat Sheet under section 1.2.4.1.4 US Civil War to add a Civil War Sticker denoting his service on his Profile.

And the category for the cemetery he is buried in is [[Category:Decatur Cemetery, Decatur, Georgia]] 

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Thank you, LJ! The Georgia Armisteads (my branch) are distant cousins to Lewis, Walker (2nd Seminole War) and George (of Ft. McHenry fame), but most of them did enlist in Confederate service.  I'll look into adding the links/sticker you suggested.  Between them and my Yankees (the New Hampshire veterans) I will be very busy for a while!

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No problem D.  Military and Cemeteries are my two pet personal projects and I find I can't keep myself from enjoining others in those pursuits as well.

I just hope I didn't put those monkeys on your back as well. ;)

And that is neat about your family background.  I think I am going to watch Gettysburg tonight.  And I just thought of an odd thing that has occurred.  I just helped someone with a Civil War Sticker whose ancestor was in the 1st Regiment New York Light Artillery, the very cannons that Lewis was mortally wounded at while attacking them at Gettysburg.  It is a small world....but I still wouldn't want to paint it.

All the best.

Answer 1

Shouldn't it be the interment date with the marking "before"?

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Ok, I don't use the word in any historical sense (I would think that was "Churching", though .. but that's me).  I use it conversationally because I have a personal reluctance to calling sprinkling "Baptism".  I'd say "taken to water", but that has a specific meaning as well.  So I use the essence of "was taken to the church and had people make promises in their name that they had no knowledge of, or say in, and may come to resent and reject when grown" by saying "churched" or "churching" .. because brevity (not something I am always known for).

(I'm not an Anglican, so don't have access to the BoCP.  Apologies if I offended, but I will probably not remember it has another meaning and will most likely still use it.)

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I totally agree about a reluctance to use the word baptism when it is infants. I prefer christening.  

It's not about being offended. I am new to wikitree and have been told quite firmly that accuracy is all important here.

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Oh, it is.  I don't think I have used the term on a profile, but here in G2G, informally, I am likely to.  (For whatever reason I have less of a problem using "baptismal" as in "blah blih bloh baptismal record says dgfhf bebeg andhfh" and so on.

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And I prefer the term baptism to christening.  Maybe in the spirit of accuracy we should be guided by whatever the record actually states?

Most of my ancestry is Australian, and before that English and from memory once you had CofE printed books to record these events they were referred to as baptisms, but prior to that when the parish priest was writing the records they could be either?

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As I said, in a profile I will use the term (reluctantly, maybe, but I use it).  I am one of those who believe/s Baptism means full immersion when one is of an age to decide of their own volition to choose belief over disbelief.  I do not believe sprinkling reflects the "model" we are to follow.  (But I don't know that this is the right venue to discuss spiritual beliefs, so I will stop.   Suffice to say: IF the record says "baptism" I will use that term.)

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I didn't mean to start a spiritual discussion. I merely wanted to make sure that "churching" was not being misunderstood. It is, fortunately, an archaic ritual.

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Not at all your fault.  I have a tendency (as do many) to get my teeth into a subject and run with it.  Others, however, think everything should never diverge from the OT (original topic, as opposed to Old Testament) as though staying static were part of human nature and exactly how conversations in the flesh world happen.  (I'd never talk to anyone if that were the case.  Wandering topics are what make conversations interesting!)

It was only an imitation of the Old Testament rules for women, given in a time when such were necessary.  Those who decided (I'll bet it was men!) that such should apply past the time of Jesus probably didn't care that the Law was fulfilled in him, just as the food restrictions were no longer applicable. 

Gah!  See .. I'm doing it again.  I blame the preachergene.  I promise I will stop now.  I shall sit on my hands and watch an episode of Time Team.

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@John  Again, I am so sorry for my reply.

@Melanie She already walks everyday.  Can you think of something besides walking to help me.

@ Christening and Baptism Replies.  I'm from Western Pennsylvania and from what I understand that around here for the Catholic and major Protestant denominations the terms are not mutually exclusive, but each is a part of the whole.

You go to the event called a Christening where the child is Baptised. Christening refers here to the naming of the child and the dedication of the child to be raised by the parents and or family present in that faith, Catholic or Protestant. The Baptism refers to the rite or sacrament of the laying of the waters and the church accepting the child into the faith.  So basically we go to a Christening to watch the baby get Baptised.

Then there are the major non-denominational churches many of my relatives and friends belonged to, Baptists, Assembly of God, etc. where the acceptance of the child into the folds of the church and the proclamation of the parents that the child will be raised in that faith is called a Dedication. The child does not receive their Baptism until they are old enough to be conscious of their decision to follow that faith and this decision to accept the faith is of their own volition.  Which to me is like the Confirmation Rite that is practiced in Catholic and many Protestant Churches, except here the child is usually not making a conscious decision, but just following a tradition.

So all in all, I agree with John, whatever the record calls it, that is what I call it.  The record determines the term used not our personal usage of these terms.

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Almost forgot, I haven't heard the term churching since I was a teenager.  But to me, churching was going to Sunday School and or learning the Bible.

And this term was usually applied to someone who was bad because "That one didn't get enough churching when he was growing up" is what my Grandmother used all the time....usually for most of my friends.  ;)

Though sometimes, and very few at that, she would say about one of my friends she liked:  "He was properly churched."

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Just the martial arts thing.  You say she "walks" .. but does she POWER walk?  (Apparently it makes all the difference!)

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I would have liked your Grandmother.  *sits back on her hands*