Proposed solution to Joseph Bosworth (1574-1606), reported son of Ann Bate.

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WikiTree reports Joseph Bosworth/Bosworth-100 as the son of “Ann Bate”/Bate-336 who is otherwise reported the wife of Rev. Stephen Bachiler (PGM). An Ancestry Family Tree is the only source reported on the profile of Bosworth-100.
 
Joseph Bosworth/Bosworth-100 is separately associated with father “Mr. Bosworth”/Bosworth-101. (No marriage is reported between Bate-336 and Bosworth-100). http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bosworth-44 
 
Based on my review, Joseph Bosworth/Bosworth-100 is likely the alter ego of Bosworth-44. The latter is otherwise reported on WikiTree as the father of Alice Bosworth, immigrant and wife of Richard Hutchinson (1602-1682). 
 
Family files frequently report Alice born 1605-1606 and her father as a Joseph Bosworth born 1574. Sometimes he is said to have died in 1606; sometimes he is said to have died in 1683. The earlier death date is found on Bosworth-100; the later, on Bosworth-44 (ala, 109 years old).   
 
I know of no information that would associate Alice Bosworth and/or spouse Richard Hutchinson, with the family of immigrant and Hampton founder, Rev. Stephen Bachiler, nor that his first wife or her presumed brother, Rev. John Bates of Wherwell. 
 
Are others able to add information regarding discovery, reason/logic that might change this understanding? If not, then then might the relationship between “Ann Bate”/Bate-336 and son Joseph Bosworth/Bosworth-100 be severed? 
 
Input, comments, objections?--GeneJ
 

I conducted an Internet search, overviewed FamilySearch “User Submitted Genealogies” (including Ancestral File and Pedigree Resource File); also the IGI. I examined information in one published source that contained information that seemed it could pertain to Joseph Bosworth.

1. Internet Search returns shy of 4000 entries for query << "Joseph Bosworth" 1574 <<

Reviewing a select few genealogically significant returns, these are mostly family files reporting also andassociation with Alice Bosworth, wife of Richard Hutchinson. Some, even many, report an undocumented association between the Bosworth and Bate farmiles. 

https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Joseph+Bosworth%22+Southwell+1574&oq=%22Joseph+Bosworth%22+Southwell+1574&aqs=chrome..69i57.10696j0j7&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=119&ie=UTF-8#q=%22Joseph+Bosworth%22+1574

2. FamilySearch “User Submitted Genealogies” (including Ancestral File and Pedigree Resource File)

(a) More than 450 returns for Alice Bosworth born Nottinghamshire, England with a birth date of 1603-1607. These generally associate Alice as the husband of Richard Hutchinson and daughter of Joseph Bosworth.

https://familysearch.org/search/tree/results#count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3AAlice~%20%2Bsurname%3ABosworth~%20%2Bbirth_place%3A%22Nottinghamshire%2C%20England%22~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1603-1607~

(b) About 350 returns for Joseph Bosworth, born 1540 to 1585, anywhere. The vast majority of these reference a child, Alice Bosworth.

https://familysearch.org/search/tree/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3AJoseph~%20%2Bsurname%3ABosworth~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1540-1585~&collection_id=%282%203%29

There are four (4) returns for a search of Joseph Bosworth, born 1540 to 1585, anywhere, filtered for a mother’s surname “Bate.” (One of these reports Joseph Bosworth’s father is “Stephen Bachiler.”)

https://familysearch.org/search/tree/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3AJoseph~%20%2Bsurname%3ABosworth~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1540-1585~%20%2Bmother_surname%3ABate~&collection_id=%282%203%29

3. FamilySearch IGI returns 23 “Community Contributed” entries for Alice Bosworth, born 1600 to 1610 (anywhere).

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/igi/results?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3AAlice~%20%2Bsurname%3ABosworth~%20%2Bbirth_year%3A1600-1610~%20%2Bfather_givenname%3AJoseph~%20%2Bsubcollection_id%3A5&igi=1

4. Ezra S. Stearns, _Genealogical and family history of the state of New Hampshire : a record of the achievements of her people in the making of a commonwealth and the founding of a nation_ (1908, reprint of ?2000), 4 vols, 4:1762-1766, for "Hutchinso," in particular, 1762; digital images, _Hathi Trust_ (accessed 2014).http://hdl.handle.net/2027/wu.89073005308?urlappend=%3Bseq=358

There is no reference to the surname Bate (or Bachiler) in this article. Of Richard Hutchinson’s wife, Alice Bosworth, Stearns writes, "daughter of Joseph Bosworth of Holgrave.” Of Richard Hutchinson, Stears published an elaborate ancestral line said based on tradition. No reference or informant account was provided in support of the tradition (events some 300-500 years prior); the genealogical account was couched only by the statement, “There is, however, no documentary evidence to confirm such tradition.”

Stearns provided no reference for the Alice-Joseph connection, leaving open the question of whether this, too, was based on unnamed tradition.

Nevertheless, as above, neither the Bate nor Bachiler families are mentioned in this article.

For an improved account of Richard Hutchinson, see Walter Goodwin Davis, _The Ancestry of Sarah Johnson 1774-1824, wife of Joseph Neal of Litchfield, Maine_ (1960), 63-65, "Hutchinson, of Salem"; digital images, _Internet Archive Lending Library_ (accessed 2013). https://archive.org/details/ancestryofsarahj00davi

 

WikiTree profile: Joseph Bosworth
in Genealogy Help by GeneJ X G2G6 Pilot (120k points)
This is what I have found in the Bosworth Family Bible that I have.

Alice Bosworth Hutchinson was the daughter of Joseph Bosworth and Alice aka Sarah Bosworth.  Joseph was born 1578 Southwell Nottingham, England and died 1672 Stockport Cheshire England

Alice was born in 1606 in Nottingham England 26 NOV 1694 in Salem, MASS.

Her siblings were  Susannah Bosworth Shatswell, Hanniel Bosworth, Dorcas Bosworth Clark.

Her children were Rebecca, Alice, Mary, Joseph, Abigail, Hannah, John and Elizabeth
Georgina, what is the publish date of the bible? We're the entries made at the time the events took place? Can you share images of these pages? Thanks.
Hi Jillaine  I dont know the date off hand.  It has been handed down to my husband, his mother, her mother, her father, his father, his father and so on  to Jonathan Bosworth and Hannah Howland.  When I go back home I will take it out of the safe.  

You can also find this info in the Bosworth Genealogy Books.

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Best answer
Detach Bosworth from ann bate
by Jillaine Smith G2G6 Pilot (915k points)
selected by Darlene Athey-Hill
Done.
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In a search I found Geni had the father of Joseph Bosworth 1574 as Joseph Boswell 1554 in the same town which lends to possible authenticity. Family Search had Nathaniel as the father but not in Nottinghamshire.
by Glenn Kittredge G2G6 (7.1k points)

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