I would like to find out if King Arthur is related to the clan Campbell of Scotland .

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Which King Arthur are you referring to?

If it is the legendary King Arthur of the round table and Excalibur associated with Tintagel in Cornwall, then there is no historical evidence that he ever existed, and definitely no contemporary documentation of the time period that mentions him (which it should have done if he actually existed!)

Even if there was someone who the myth was based on, all the stories point towards the Cornwall area and maybe Wales as a Celtic myth....

I think any link to Scotland is pure fantasy and haven't seen any actual documentary evidence.
by Michelle Wilkes G2G6 Pilot (171k points)
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He has a WikiTree profile:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ap_Uthyr-1

and a project was born all about the legends of King Arthur, which you may find interesting:
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:King_Arthur_Legends_-_The_Project

But Scotland? hmmm...

Yes, he has had a lot of work and investigation dedicated to him laugh But I think his absence in all contemporary documentation is very telling...someone of such importance should have had at least some mention at the time the battles were being recorded. All other Kings & Queens of England (and Scotland) are well documented at the time of their existence as far as I know.

But people still like to believe in many things...

Seems the Scottish connection appears to have come from a book and the theory is discussed on Undiscovered Scotland

When the English first arrived, the whole island was Gwales and spoke Gwalisc (Gaulish).  With no border patrols, there were no borders.

As the use of English spread, the English-speaking areas became Englaland.  But Welsh hung on for centuries in separate western areas - Cornwall, central Wales, and Cumbria/Stratchclyde.

And the old stories were retold and elaborated in the areas where the old language was still spoken.  Some of the Old Welsh literature comes from the north.  Y Gododdin is set in southern Scotland.

And obviously the Old Welsh-speakers in Carlisle (a Welsh name) had no reason to regard Cardiff as the centre of their universe.  The modern attitude that tries to claim everything Old Welsh for modern Wales is quite misleading.  (Though oddly we don't seem to see the Scots trying to claim any of it as "Pictish", though they could)

But the bards in each area would tend to set the stories in their own area.  In Cornwall, it was all about Cornwall, in Wales the same stories could be set in Wales, and in the north, they were tales of the north.

Which makes no sense where Arthur is concerned.  A Brtish warlord holding off the early stages of a Saxon invasion is fighting in the east.  If he's in the west,  England is already conquered.

Camalot is the Old Welsh name of Colchester.  Nothing says Arthur's capital was at Colchester.  But it wouldn't be silly.

Having said all of which, there's a fantasy history of Clan Campbell that goes back to one Smerviemore, who is easily hooked up to Arthur if the internet is that way inclined

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/genealogy/records/smerviemore-ab-pendragon_88987861

PS actually it's pre-internet

https://digital.nls.uk/histories-of-scottish-families/archive/95552369?mode=transcription

i've been researching my campbell bloodline also, the are descendaces from the the campbell clan of scottland, which migrated to to the carolinas, you should watch the series "outlanders" it is basic so what on histrical facts
Arthur existed. Whether he has a connection to Capbell or not is open for debate,  I doubt that

I fully agree with the statement above.  When in doubt, also go to the Clan Campbell web site which states, “Sellar then repeats his conclusion that the connection to King Arthur, to Diarmid O'Duibne and to the Normans were added later as fashionable garnish or for political leverage and have, of course, no validity in fact.”

https://www.ccsna.org/origins-of-the-campbells

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He existed but his connection to Campbell is open for debate.

He died in the battle of CAmlamm in about AD 603

check earlybritishkingdoms.com
by Edward Schaffer G2G Crew (580 points)

Unfortunately the battle of Camlann is probably  as legendary  as Arthur himself.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Camlann

Here's one recent work on the orgins of the legend; a compilation of several personages melded to create an English hero.https://www.bournemouth.ac.uk/news/2017-11-23/here-are-five-ancient-britons-who-make-myth-king-arthur

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