Can you help the wonderful Mr. Walkers?

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There appear to be three profiles for the same man, a William Walker who died in Orange County, North Carolina in 1769.  The profiles are Walker-8270, 20122,  and 28236. William  appears to be an Irish immigrant who moved to North Carolina with his wife and children some time after 1750, purchasing land, then dying and kindly leaving a will in 1769.  Two of the profiles have him married  to a mythical Cherokee woman, the third to an Irish woman named Rose.  He named four sons in his will, John, William, Abraham, and Alexander.  Son William was a Loyalist who moved to Canada.  He is also duplicated as are other family members.  

I stumbled on this family while attempting to clean up some mythical Cherokee people, but don't know anything about the United Empire Loyalists or this family. Can you help?
WikiTree profile: William Walker
in Genealogy Help by Kathie Forbes G2G6 Pilot (880k points)
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The Walkers are tangled "mess" .  I have several; William, George, John to name a few, in my tree, It seems that these Walkers used the very common practice of naming their son (usually a first born) after the father's father, and the next born after the father.  To me this naming pattern is quite common among the Irish/Scots.  I'm working a theory, and provide some historical information and then my own personal family theory.

Many Loyalists first settled around areas in what is now known St. Johns, New Brunswick; following the local trade routes they then migrated to Liverpool, Nova Scotia and then up to Halifax, Nova Scotia.

My oldest known Walker was a Matthew Walker (b 1762). Halifax is where he settled and I'm working a theory that he may have been part of this migratory path. Those that settled in the now known St. Stephens area were not part of any military but had trades and indirectly worked for the military (ie building forts).  My Matthew was a carpenter and this is where I think he first shows up, but I'm unsure.  So I'm trying to connect St. Stephens to Halifax.  I have no other information on my Matthew, except at the time of his death he was blind, had had red hair and spoke with a Scottish accent.   I do not know his siblings or parents - he is my brick wall.

The United Empire Loyalist Association of Canada (UELAC) is a good place to familiarize with Loyalist activity, their on-line site is here:  http://www.uelac.org/

by Mary Jane MacNeil G2G1 (1.1k points)
I have no connection to these folks but I'm hoping that because the younger William was a Loyalist someone will know more about him and his family and can improve their profiles. My husband has Loyalist ancestors who left Delaware and went to New Brunswick at the beginning of the Revolution.  I have Walker ancestors and they are a brick wall.  You're absolutely correct that they kept using the same names over and over.  I've got a John Walker, his son who was known as John Walker Sr., and his grandson known as John Walker, Jr. and that one had a son named John!
A contingent of UEL's settled at Chaleur Bay, (Bonaventure, New Carlisle) Quebec, one of my ancestors, Thomas Rafter settled there. The people who settled there were from a British army unit that had served in either New England or New York state and left the States in 1777. There are documents on line about this group. Also a large number of UELs settled in Eastern Ontario all the way through to Southern Ontario, though in those days it was referred to as Upper Canada. From my research the bulk of UELs had a male family member who had served in the British army and after the Brits lost the American Revolution they came north to Canada which was a British colony. Or it was a family whose husband or father had died in the service of the British army and the family remained loyal to the British crown. I don't know if this helps at all.

as for the Walkers, I wish you well on sorting out the Walkers, I have Walkers on my paternal grandmother's side. They came from northern England in what is now Cumbria (formerly Lancashire). They also had the habit of repeating names in each generation for both the men and the women. Plus the majority of them had large families. My best advice for sorting through the Walker minefield is the more data the better, and birth dates are your best friend. In my case, the most popular male names were Joseph and Nicholas Walker, for the women, Ann, Sarah, Elizabeth, and Agnes. In some genrations, the siblings would repeat the names for their children so there were first cousins who had the same name
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I have been doing research for a particular YDNA line of Walkers, and I stumbled onto this William Walker. This man was fully European Ulster-Scots and migrated to North Carolina from the area around Newville, Pennsylvania in 1763. Although his will is in Orange County, NC, he actually died in the present day location of Rockingham, North Carolina. A will record suggests his wife was "Jean", not Mary Roseborough. The situation is a bit messy because we have multiple unrelated Walker families living in Orange County, North Carolina. Making matters worse, they all gave similar names to their children at similar ages.
by Jacob Walker G2G1 (1.6k points)
A few things I forgot to add: The Loyalist William Walker lived on Little River on the far east side of Orange County, while the older William who died in 1769 lived on the far west sidein what is now Rockingham. The Loyalist William shared YDNA matches with John Walker m. Nancy Ashford and a Phillip Walker on Jordans Creek nearby. I suspect these three men were brothers. They might indeed have a father named William who married Rose Roseborough, just not the 1769 one that lived on the other side of the county.

What makes this so confusing is there is another set of brothers John and William who were the sons of the 1769 Willlam. They lived on the far west in what is now Rockingham County.
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I do not know much about him.   Actually  I am not certain of his first name.  My 2Xg grandparents ( James ? and Elizabeth ? lived in Marmora, Hastings Co., Ontario, Canada.  My gr. grandmother Phoebe Jane Walker was born in Ireland about 1810.   Sarah Jane was the wife of my g grandfather Charles McDowell, also born in Ireland (Co. Cavan)    Phoebe Jane died 2 Nov 1905 in Day Mills, Ontario, Canada.   I do not know when or where James Walker was born or died.   I was reading the name put on the tombstone of Elizabeth (Walker) on a four sided stone.

Alice McDowell Paige
by Alice McDowell G2G Rookie (260 points)

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