Anyone have any information on Lyttle Dunkin other than what is in the 1841 Census?

Question

Anyone have any info on Lyttle Dunkin (1775-?)  All I can find is one reference in the 1841 Irish census which states he was in Sallaghan, Killishandra, Cavan, Ireland, was 66, head of houshold, and a linen weaver.  I am trying to establish if he is the father of Lytle Duncan (1804- 24 Dec 1872) Bohey, Leitrim, Ireland.  Lytle Duncan is my oldest relative I can find and cannot identify his parents.

Answer 1

I saw your post and I thought I could help.   You are wanting info on Lyttle Dunkin b. 1775 and is he the father of Lytle Duncan b. 1804 . Well I did find a Lytle Duncan Not a Dunkin but the dates are wrong and I try to find him but not with that D.O.B.  But I did find something that might help:  

Tithe Applotment Books 1823-1837 Information from many of these books are online at http://www.irelandxo.com/

But I did find this on Family Search.org    Lyttle Dunkin B. 1777 Sallaghan, Killishandra, Cavan, Ireland  married to Sarah Dunkin born 1784 Sallaghan,Killashandra,Cavan,Ireland. died 29 Oct 1866 Crosthwaite Park, Kingstown, Ireland Dublin Ireland. 

Sources :  Ireland, Civil Registration Deaths Index, 1864-1958 ancestry. com

Web: Ireland Burial Index, 1600 -1927 ancestry.com

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3FY-LHC: accessed 6 Aug.2018 entry for Sarah Dunkin, sources, "Duncan RE" file (2:2:2: MM6H-3J2)  submitted 29 Jan 2018 by Robert Duncan 6(Identity withheld for privacy).

CHILDREN OF LYTTLE AND SARAH DUNKIN:  ARE AS FOLLOW:

1. LYTLE DUNCAN B. 1804 IRELAND  AND DIED 24 DEC. 1872 BOHEY, LEITRIM, IRELAND. WIFE - SARAH JACKSON B. 20 SEPT 1807 LIMERICK,  IRELAND  DEATH----7 jAN 1874  BOHEY, LEITRIM, IRELAND OR MANOR HAMILTON,  IRELAND.

BAPTISM 9 NOV 1806 SAINT MARY'S INDEPENDENT, GLOSSOP, DERBY, ENGLAND PARENTS ARE: THOMAS JACKSON AND MOTHER-SARAH.

2.JOHN DUNCAN B. 1813 LEITRIM , IRELAND AND DIED----SEPT 1903 DARK VALLEY, MANOR HAMILTON, IRELAND. SPOUSE;  SARAH WITHERS B. 1831 SLIGO, IRELAND DIED---6 APRIL 1903 DARK VALLEY, MANOR HAMILTON, LEITRIM, IRELAND 

RESI 1859 LEITRIM,IRELAND.

3 JAMES Duncan B. 1820 BOHEY, MANOR HAMILTON, IRELAND - NO WIFE LISTED. 

SOURCES;  IRELAND CIVIL REGISTRATION DEATHS INDEX 1864-1958 ANCESTRY. COM

IRELAND SELECT MARRIAGES 1619-1898 ANCESTRY.COM

WEB:IRELAND CENSUSES 1901 ANCESTRY.COM

WEB: IRELANDCENSUS SEARCHFORMS 1841-1851 ANCESTRY.COM

ANCESTRY FAMILY TREES -ANCESTRY.COM

http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/ANTCitationRedirtil=113318678&pid=2204

"Pedigree Resource File" database FamilySearch

(https://familySearch.org/ark:161190312:2:3FY PVX:accessed 6 August 2018)entry for John Duncan, 

sources;  Duncan RE" file (2:2:2:MM6H-3J2, submitted 29 Jan 2018 by Robert Dunkin 

CHILDREN OF LYTTE DUNCAN B;.1804 AND SARAH JACKSON B. 1807 ARE AS FOLLOWS;

1. THOMAS DAVIS B. 29 OCT 1827- GLENBOY CLOONCLARE, IRELAND DIED13 OCT.1902 DUFFERIN,ONTARIO, CANADA.

RESIDENCE - 1871, 1881, 1891, 1901 AMARAMT, WELLINGTON,ONTARIO, CANADA. PARENTS ARE JOHN DAVIS AND MARY WILLIAMSON.

SPOUSE; FRANCES DUNCAN BORN  11 JAN 1829 LEITRIM,IRELAND. MARRIED 4 OCT 1854 LEITRIM,IRELAND. DEATH--27 APRIL 1906 SHELBURNE DUFFIN, ONTARIO, CAN ADA

2/ MARY DUNCAN B. 3 MARCH 1831 BOHEY, LEITRIM ,IRELAND DIED 12 MARCH1844  LEITRIM, IRELAND.  NO SPOUSE LISTED.

4. JAMES DUNCAN B. 1 FEB 1832 BOHEY,LEITRIM IRELAND OR 11 JAN 1829 IRELAND DIED 25 APRIL 1868 PHILADELPHIA, PA 

1850 PHILADELPHIA NORTH MULBERRY WARD PHILADEPHIA PA

IMMIGRATION 4 MAY 1849   NO SPOUSE LISTED

5. JOHN DUNCAN B.2 FEB 1832 BOHEY, LETTRIM CO.IRELAND  DEATH ;---14 OCT1906 NEW MILFORD,LITCHFIELD CO. CT.

1871 RESO- ONTARIO,CANADA,

1880. 1900 RESI LITCHFIELD,CT.

WIFE --- ELIZA ALLINGHAM  BORN 19 FEB 1841;LEITRIM,IRELAND. DEATH 6 JAN 1933 LITCHFIELD CO. CT. 

1910 RESI - LITCHFIELD, CT. 

6. RICHARD DUNCAN B. CARRICK, IRELAND IN 1824 AND DIED 16 MAY 1899 ONTARIO, CANADA  

BURIAL; SHELBURNE DUFFERIN CO,ONTARIO, CANADA. 

RESI - YORK WEST

1871 RESI - ONTARIO, CANADA

1891 RESI- AMARANTH, WELLINGTON NORTH , ONTARIO, CANADA. 

IMMIGRATION- EMIGRATION 1867 YORK TOWNSHIP, CANADA.

SPOUSE ELIZABETH (ELIZA) DUNCAN B. 27 MARCH 1834 BOHEY LEITRIM, IRELAND AND DIED 4 JUNE 1913, YORK, ONTARIO, CANADA. 

BURIAL - SHELBURNE, DUFFERIN , ONTARIO CO.CANADA. 

1911 RESI - TORONTO EAST, ONTARIO,CANADA

7  JOHN JAMESON B. 1837 BOHEY, LEITRIM IRELAND DIED MARCH 1895 BELFAST, IRELAND  (FATHER FRANCES JAMESON)  MARRIAGE 7 JAN 1861 LEITRIM IRELAND  TO MARY  DUNCAN B. 11 JAN 1837 LEITRIM IRELAND. DIED NOV 1914  INISHOWEN,IRELAND.

RESI 31 MARCH 1901 ARRAN QUAY, DUBLIN, IRELAND.   ALTERNATE NAME:  MARY A JAMESON/JAMISON.

8. WILLIAM DUNCAN B. 24 JUNE 1838 IRELAND D. 2 JUNE 1905 LITCHFIELD CT.BURIAL: LITCHFIELD CT.

1880, 1900 LITCHFIELD, CT. 

SPOUSE:  ANNA MEEHAN B. 24 NOV 1838 IRELAND OR 1842 LEITRIM IRELAND OR NOV 1839 LEITRIM IRELAND DIED 28 APRIL 1922 NEW MILFORD, CT, BURIAL ;NEW MILFORD,CT.

9. JACKSON DUNCAN B. 2 JUNE 1839 OR 1845 LEITRIM IRELAND D. 12 OCT 1918 BOHEY,LEITRIM,IRELAND. 

RESI 1901, 1911 CLOONLOUGHER,LEITRIM,IRELAND WIFE; ELIZA DUNDAS -BORN 15 SEPT 1839 -1848 DUFFERERIN, CASTLE, CAVAN IRELAND. DEATH   22  FEB 1915 MANOR HAMILTON, IRELAND

RESI 1901 LEITRIM, IRELAND

RESI - CORK HILL

BAPTISM 26 DEC 1846, KINSALE,CORK,IRELAND.

ALTERNATE NAME:  ELIZA DUNDASS DUNCAN

PARENTS----ROBERT DUNDAS AND MOTHER - MARY BRIEN.

MARRIAGE 2 AUG. 1865 BOHOE,FERMANAGH,IRELAND.

10 JOHN ALEXANDER DUNCAN B.13 SEPT 1830 OR 1840  BELFAST ANTRIM, NORTHERN IRELAND.OR BORN ABT 1834 ANTRIM, NORTHERN IRELAND 

DIED - 6 MARCH 1897 TORONTO,ONTARIO, CANADA 

BURIAL TORONTO MUNICIPALITY, ONTARIO,CANADA 

WIFE; - SARAH DUNCAN BORN 25 SEPT 1841 OR 1843  LEITRIM, IRELAND, DIED 15 APRIL 1916 -TORONTO,ONTARIO,CANADA 

BURIAL TORONTO,TORONTO MUMICIPALITY,ONTARIO,CANADA.

11.GEORGE DUNCAN B. 1 SEPT1843 cARRAIGEENCORE, IRELAND DIED - 28 MARCH 1912 KINGS NEW YORK 

RESI 1865 MONROE,NY 

RESI 1870  BROOKLYN WARD 5, KINGS, NY

RESI 1871  POPLAR, LONDON, ENGLAND

1892 BROOKLYN , KINGS,NY

1905 - BROOKLYN KINGS, NY

1910 - BROOKLYN WARD 20 KINGS, NY

WIFE - ANNE SKELLY OR ANNE S. KELLY BORN 1846 NEW YORK DIED 30 APRIL 1905 KINGS NY 

1860 NEW YORK WARD 21 DIST 5 NEW YORK

12. LYTLE DUNCAN B. UNK DIED 26 MARCH 1900 FERMANAGH, IRELAND

MARRIED SUSANNA (SUSAN) DUNCAN ON 31 JULY 1865 LEITRIM IRELAND. BORN 1 JAN 1845 LEITRIM, IRELAND AND DIED 4 APRIL 1895 DARK VALLEY LEITRIM, IRELAND.

13. HENRY DUNCAN B. 1847 IRELAND DIED 1 DEC, 1875 NEW MILFORD CT. BURIAL NEW MILFORD CT 

RESI ST. LOUIS WARD 11 , ST LOUIS, MISSOURI 

RESI 1 JULY 1863 NEW YORK 

WIFE; HANNAH ALLINGHAM B. 2 JULY 1843 BOHEY IRELAND DIED 23 DEC 1932 LITCHFIELD, CT. 

RESI 1930 LITCHFIELD CT. 

PARENTS;  ROBERT ALLINGHAM AND GRACE HILDAGARDE, ALLINGHAM. 

14.  LYTLE DUNCAN B. NOV 8, 1848 BOHEY, LEITRIM, IRELAND 

DEATH 7 SEPT 1914 ONTARIO, CANADA 

BURIAL TORONTO MUNICIPALILITY, ONTARIO CANADA 

ALTERNATE NAMES LYTTLE, DUNCAN, PARENTS ARE LYTLE DUNCAN AND SARAH JACKSON. 

MARRIED 13 OCT 1874 ONTARIO CANADA TO MARY ANN (MINNIE A ) MCINTYRE B. 19 JULY 1850 ONTARIO CANADA,  DIED 26 FEB 1921  TORONTO ONTARIO,CANADA 

ALTERNATE NAME MINNIE A DUNCAN 

PARENTS;  ---ROBERT MCINTYRE,AND JANE CAMPBELL

I HOPE THIS HELPS I GOT ALL OF THIS ON FAMILYSEARCH.ORG FAMILYTREES.COM AND IF YOU NEED MORE HELP JUST LET ME KNOW. NANCY

Comments

Nancy

Thanks for the help.  What you provided confirms what I have on Lytle Duncan (1804), his children and grandchildren.  If interested, let me have an email address at reduncan1972@icloud.com and I will send about a years worth in a well organized MS Word document that traces Lytle to me with a number of family pictures including Lytle’s farm house. The challenge is finding where the lineage goes prior to Lytle (1804).  Due to the destruction of so many Irish documents I have hit a stop at Lytle and was hoping the Lyttle Duncan (1775) mentioned in the 1841 census might prove to be his father and I would like to find which of the other Duncans in Dromahaire are relatives.  One, a John Duncan, is listed in the tax records as sharing a property with him in about 1833.  Again, thanks for the help!

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Thanks for the information, it is of help.  I am the RE Duncan cited for most of what you found online.

Answer 2

www.census.nationalarchive.ie

1841 Ireland Census: Townland: Sallaghan

(Parish: Killeshandra, Barony: Tullyhunco, County: Cavan)

House: 7

Alive, Sunday 6th June 1841

Lytle DUNKIN / 64 (1777) / Male / Head / Linnen Weaver / Resides: Cavan

Member of Family Died Since 6th June 1831

John HAMMON / 40 / Male / Step Son / Labourer / Soar Throat / Year Died: 1841

[Page 2 has different headings, including Married & Year(s) Married]

Sarah DUNKIN / 60 / Female / Wife / Married / Year Married: 1804 & 1831 / Spinning Wool / Read / Native of Co.: Cavan

Francis HAMMON / 17 / Male / Step Son / Not Married / Labourer / Read / Native of Co.: Cavan

Mary McMANUS / 40 / Female / Visitor / Not Married / None / Cannot Read / Native of Co.: Leitrim

This Census says SARAH DUNKIN was married twice, once in 1804 to (Unknown) HAMMON. Second marriage in 1831 to LYTLE DUNKIN. Please note HAMMON children are Lytle's step children.

Also notice the census search has his name indexed as "Lyttle" on the written page it's clearly written "Lytle".

The proceeding House 6 has a James HAMMON family. Could be a son of Sarah from her previous marriage.

Comments

Thanks so much!  If interested, let me have an email address at reduncan1972@icloud.com and I will send about a years worth in a well organized MS Word document that traces Lytle to me with a number of family pictures including Lytle’s farm house and some information on the kids who went to Canada. My challenge is finding where the lineage goes prior to Lytle (1804) and your information could help.  Due to the destruction of so many Irish documents I had hit a stop at Lytle and was hoping the Lyttle Duncan (1775) mentioned in the 1841 census might prove to be his father and I could perhaps get the line going again to eventually get back to Scotland.  That remains a dream, but thanks for the help!

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Since Lytle is 64, married Sarah ten years previous in 1831 and there are no Dunkin children on this 1841 census... if he did have children, most likely would be in an earlier marriage. To whom, I don’t know. Seems logical he would have a son named Lytle. Uncommon first name, could it have been a grandparents surname? My DUNCANs came to Quebec from Londonderry, Northern Ireland. I’m stuck on them and have become a Northern Ireland DUNCAN researcher (as a hobby and the enjoyment of the hunt).