Need help reading a birth record in french.

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Want to make sure we choose the right surname for this Fille du Roi.

Link to birth record: http://www.migrations.fr/images/ACTES_BAPTEMESfilles%20du%20Roy/B_QUELLEVEE_Jeanne1652Evreux.JPG

We read Jeanne Guillerée but profile is under Quelue
WikiTree profile: Jeanne Quelvé
in Genealogy Help by Guy Constantineau G2G6 Pilot (386k points)

Il me semble que Tanguay a lu Quelué, à deux reprises. Je vois qu'il y en a qui on adopté le Quelvé (nosorigines.qc.ca) aussi.

Il existe le nom Guillerée, mais je ne vois rien qui l'associe avec cette femme en particulier, ou avec sa mère.

Je serais intéressé à voir des autres sources pour son père:  qu'est ce qu'il a utilisé?

4 Answers

+11 votes
I read Quellevée (as in the name of the file). There is no visible difference between U and V (compare "jour" and "avril" in the first line), but otherwise letters Q, E, L and the acute accent are very clearly recognizable.
by Julien Cassaigne G2G6 Mach 6 (69.2k points)
The name could be originally Queuelevée ("raised tail"), but the second E is mute and the third one is often not pronounced, so it becomes easily Queulvée. Variants with double L seem to be rare, and this changes the sound so the short version is logically Quelvé without the second U. Probably Quelue is just a wrong reading of Quelvé with the V written like a U and the accent omitted.

So I would say : LNAB Quellevée, other name Quelvé.

I agree with Julien:

  • LNAB = Quellevée but with u transcripted to v, as in migration.fr, and,
  • OLN = Quelvé, as in PRDH, except with u also transcripted to v and with 2nd e acute accented. 

See summary of different names adopted by different  organizations:                   .

www.migrations.fr, Les Filles du Roy - Q : Quellevée ou Quelvée 

migration.fr. Acte de baptême - Q : Trans. (me) Quelleuée, (migration.fr) Quellevée.

migration.fr. Acte de mariage - P : Trans. (me) Quelué, (migration.fr) Quelué ou Quelvé.

migration.fr. Acte de sépulture - PQR : Trans. (me), Quélevé, (migration.fr)  Quelevé ou Quellevée.

myancestors.ca : Quelue

La Mémoire du Québec : Quelvé

PRDH - Recherche d'une graphie et de son standard associé

                                    Freq.

quelue                          16

9 autres graphies           11

Total                               27

PRDH – Les Filles du Roi : quelue

Tanquay 1871, vol. 1, p. 86 : Quelué

Nos Origines : Quelue ou Quelve

fillesduroi.org, A listing of the filles du roi (King's Daughters) - Q : Quelvé

+8 votes
by D Q G2G6 Mach 7 (79.1k points)
merci David, ton aide est précieuse pour ces trucs.  :D
+4 votes
Bonjour Guy,

Je te confirme (après avoir lu au dessus de 200 ans d'actes en France que les lettres sont bien tous des E.

Alors c'est Quellenée.  Car le deuxième N dans Jeanne au bas de l'acte nous prouve fortement que c'est un N dans Quellenée.
by Dominique Goudreault G2G4 (4.0k points)
Dominique, on n'a pas de V pour comparer la graphie du prêtre sur cette lettre.  Toutes les variations incluent soit V ou U, qui sont faciles à confondre, pas de N.
+3 votes

Quellevée at baptism.  Quelevé at funeral.  Quelué or Quelvé at marriage (which is not an original by the way but the second copy, no signatures anywhere).  Looking through the few notarial acts that name her, the following transcriptions show up:  Quelué, Quelevé, Quielevé, Quelue

Continuing on with filling in the bio and sources.  

by Danielle Liard G2G6 Pilot (676k points)
oh, and to further confuse the issue, the QuelUé may be a total misinterpretation, read the text of the marriage, she comes from Évreux, look at how that is written.

and on baptisms of children, often it has been read as Quelué, but the first children are born in Petite Rivière, that is written in the text, for those who have access to Drouin records, take a look at the way rivière is written.
been through all the baptisms and marriages of the children, the texts can all be read as Quelvé and its variations, comparison with Vs elsewhere in text brings me to conclude that somebody misread the first one and everybody else has followed suit since.
and to top things off, fichier origine has her, Quellevée, Quelvé:

http://www.fichierorigine.com/recherche?numero=243423

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