Need help transcribing names from Danish church record

Question

See Danish State Archives, Church Counter Books, database with images, Voer Parish (Hjørring County), Enesteministerialbog (1687 - 1814), 717 FKVD - 1806 FKVD, image 28 of 187, folio 27 right, first No. (2) of 1736, Baptism of Margrete Hansdatter (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128204#172545,28969066 : accessed 25 Feb 2017), born 27 Feb 1736, baptized Oculi (4 Mar 1736); father Hans Thomasons; mother Margarete Sverrisdatter (sp?).

I'm fairly certain this is the baptismal record for my husband's 4th great grandmother, Margarethe Hansdatter, known to have been born been 1733 and 1738 based on her census records.  I think it says the father's name is Hans Thomasons and the mother's first name is Margarete. But I'm having a lot of trouble figuring out the mother's surname and the rest of what the record says. My gothic handwriting transcription skills are just not good enough even with the aid of some sites on old Danish names.

Any help would be appreciated.

I'm still researching and haven't put up the records yet beyond my husband's grandfather, so I do not have a profile to reference yet.

Comments

I forgot to say the record I'm interested in is the first (2) under the heading for 1736 on the right side of the folio.

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Here is another record that may be my husband's 4th great grandfather, Laurs Pedersen, husband of Margrete Hansdatter.

Danish State Archives, Church Counter Books, database with images, Voer Parish (Hjørring County), Enesteministerialbog (1687 - 1814), 1717 FKVD - 1806 FKVD, image 8 of 187, folio 7, 5th entry on the right side, alleged by some genealogies to be the Baptism of Laurs Pedersen (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128204#172545,28969046 : accessed 27 Feb 2017)

Here is what I think I can pick out.

An illegitimate child Lars, born 18 Aug 1721, baptized 11 p. Trinitat (24 Aug 1721); mother - Maren Jensdr; sponsors include Mette ? and Maren Simonsdr of Aggersted.  I can pick out a couple of men named Peder, but not their surnames.  One is in the list of sponsors and one appears between the mother's name and the sponsors, but I don't recognize language naming him as the father.

Any help in further deciphering this record would also be appreciated.

Answer 1

Very difficul to read, but second line of Lars' record says

Barnefader Udlagt Peder Sp..in Agger-

(next line) sted

Which means something like "Peder Sp in Aggersted was designated as father of the child"

It continues with the godfathers: Fadd Peder Rasmussen ...

Comments

I could be useful if you inform what other information you have. I assume it is this couple in the 1787 census: 

 

Laurs Pedersen	59	Gift	Hosbonde	Bonde og gaardbeboer
Magrethe Hansdatter	50	Gift	Hans kone
Hans Laursen	24	Ugift	ægte børn
Jens Laursen	11	Ugift	ægte børn
Maren Laursdatter	14	Ugift	ægte børn

 

I am pretty sure that the marriage is here:

https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128204#172545,28969177  (last entry on the folio)

Anyway, the age of Lars born in 1721 does not match Laurs aged 59 in 1787. Although age in censusses are often some years off, I think the difference is too big here.

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Thank you so much for your help.  Yes, you have the census and marriage right.  A couple of days ago, I found this record which I'm pretty sure is his burial record.  The description uses the name of the same child, Hans Laursen, as the burial record I found for Margrethe Hansdatter. He is their oldest child and oldest son.

 Danish State Archives, Church Counter Books, database with images, Voer Parish (Hjørring County), Enesteministerialbog (1687 - 1814), 1717 FKVD - 1806 FKVD, image 119 of 187, folio 117, middle of left side, Burial of Laurs Pedersson (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128204#172545,28969157  - death date: 1 May 1802, Hans Laursen's father, Laurs Pedersen, age 76, buried the 3rd Tuesday after Paske (4 May 1802)

This age of 76 would put his birth around 1726 which is still a couple of years off from the census but much closer in age than this baptismal record.

We also have a spread dates on the 4th great grandmother's birth. The 1801 census puts her birth around 1734. The 1787 census puts it around 1737. Her burial record fits better with the 1801 census. If the first record I asked about is her baptismal record, it would put her birth in 1736 which is close to the 1787 census age. Can you help any with that?

Here is the link again: (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128204#172545,28969066 )

And here are most of the other records I've found on her.

(1) Danish Census 1801,  Demographic Database Ref. DDA-6075, Kipno. B6769. Parish: Voer. Hundred: Dronninglund. County: Hjørring, Placename: Agersted By. Record no. 314 of 841, entry for family of Peder Christensen and Margrethe Laursdatter,(https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid1418496)
(2) Danish Census 1787, Danish Demographic Database Ref. DDA-11528, Kipno. B2978. Parish: Voer. Hundred: Dronninglund. County: Hjørring. Record no. 414 of 839, (https://www.danishfamilysearch.com/cid299597) -  entries for Laurs Pedersen (peasant & farm resident, age 59), Margrethe Hansdatter (his wife, age 50), and their children: Hans Laursen (single, age 24), Maren Laursdatter (single, age 14), and Jens Laursen (single, age 11).  Most of their other children are elsewhere on the same page working in the same village as servants: Svend (single, age 14), Magret (age 20). Their 20 year old daughter's soon to be husband, Peder Christensen, age 28, living with his parents, Christen Mathisen, age 63, and Maren Pederdatter, age 60, are also on the same page in the same village, hamlet, or farm area.
(3) -this one is the 3rd great grandmother - Danish State Archives, Church Counter Books, database with images, Voer Parish (Hjørring County), Enesteministerialbog (1687 - 1814), 1717 FKVD - 1806 FKVD, image 72 of 187, folio 70 left, No. 6, 30 Nov 1766, Baptism of Magret Lausdatter (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128204#172545,28969110 ), father Laus Pedersons and mother  Magrethe Hansdtr of Aggersted, born 28 Nov 1766, baptised 1st of Advent (30 Nov 1766); sponsors Christen Lausen of Aggersted, Rasmus Pedersen of Ahken (sp?), Thomas Hansen of Vestergard, Anne O? Nielsdr (sp?) and Maren Gru?(?)dtr of Aggersted
(4) Danish State Archives, Church Counter Books, database with images, Voer Parish (Hjørring County), Enesteministerialbog (1687 - 1814), 1717 FKVD - 1806 FKVD, image 139 of 187, folio 137, bottom right, 1764, Marriage of Laurs Pedersson and Margrete HansDaatter (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128204#172545,28969177 ) - both Laurs and Margete were from Aggersted; engaged 9 July 1764, marriage ceremony 16 Tr. (7 Oct 1764); witnesses Thomas Hanson of ? and Rasmus Christenson of Foegaarde

(5) Danish State Archives, Church Counter Books, database with images, Voer Parish (Hjørring County), Enesteministerialbog (1687 - 1814), 1784 FKVD - 1814 FKVD, image 105 of 117, folio 480, near bottom of page, Burial of Margarethe Hansdatter (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128204#172546,28969330 ) - death date: 10 Apr 1807, Hans Laursen's mother, Margarethe Hansdatter, age 73, buried the 19 Apr 1807 (Note: she was probably living with her son Hans at the time as he and his family are listed in the 1801 census at Bjeldbakken)

(6) Danish State Archives, Church Counter Books, database with images, Voer Parish (Hjørring County), Enesteministerialbog (1687 - 1814), 1717 FKVD - 1806 FKVD, image 70 of 187, folio 68, No. 9 (the 1st one), 21 Oct 1764, Baptism of Hans Lausen (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128204#172545,28969108 ), father Laus Pedersons and mother Magrete Hansdtr of Aggersted, born 15 Oct 1764, baptised 18 p. Trin. (21 Oct 1764); sponsors: Mads Knudsen of Toogarde, Thomas Hansen of Aggersted, Jens Nielsen, Kirsten Hermansdatter and Anne Hansdatter, all of Aggersted

(7) Danish State Archives, Church Counter Books, database with images, Voer Parish (Hjørring County), Enesteministerialbog (1687 - 1814), 1717 FKVD - 1806 FKVD, image 75 of 187, folio 73, No. 10, 8 Oct 1769, Baptism of Anne Larsdatter (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128204#172545,28969113 ), father Lars Pedersens and mother Magrete Hansdatters of Aggersted, born 5 Oct 1769, baptised 20 p. Trin. (8 Oct 1769); sponsors Rasmus Rasmusen of Aggersted, Thomas Hansen of Vestergaard, Rasmus Pl? Hansen of ?em, Maren Jensdatter, ?, Anne Larsdatter and ? of Aggersted.

(8) Danish State Archives, Church Counter Books, database with images, Voer Parish (Hjørring County), Enesteministerialbog (1687 - 1814), 1717 FKVD - 1806 FKVD, image 81 of 187, folio 79, No. 5, Baptism of Svend Lausen (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128204#172545,28969119), father Laus Pedersons and mother Magrete Hansdatter of Aggersted, born 22 Oct 1774 (I can't figure out a date that makes sense from the feast day date for the baptism)

(9) Danish State Archives, Church Counter Books, database with images, Voer Parish (Hjørring County), Enesteministerialbog (1687 - 1814), 1717 FKVD - 1806 FKVD, image 171 of 187, folio 174, No. 4, 14 Jul 1776, Baptism of Jens Laursen (https://www.sa.dk/ao-soegesider/da/billedviser?epid=17128204#172545,28969209 ), father Laur Pedersens and mother Magrethe Hansdatter of Aggersted, born 11 Jul 1776, baptised 6 after Trin. (14 Jul 1776); sponsors Anders Pedersens of ?, Maren Pedersdatter of Aggersted, Joanne Hermansdatter, Prostbroe (sp?) ? Pedersen of Aggersted, Thomas Hansen of Pedergaard, Jens Pedersen of ?

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With help from other genealogists I can now conclude that Lars' Father's name is Peder Sparre

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Thank you so much. Please thank those who helped.

Mary Jensen