Help with brickwall profile

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I have asked for help with this profile before & got some information that added to what I had but I still havent been able to prove this ancestors parents. Joseph Tesseneer (Tesseneer-3 )is the "problem profile" lol. I have several sources on the profile but have determined thru old blog threads,some of the info came from old Bible records. I dont have access to ancestry to work out more of this but I know there is info there that might help. It appears two people have been somehow merged in the family history. One is this Joseph (b.1844), the other is Isaac Tesseneer (b.1843) in Rutherford Co.,N.C. I have found several census records in Rutherford Co, N.C. with Isaac listed with his parents William Tesseneer and Rhoda Green. These are also the names given for Joseph's parents but he is on none of the census records. They are only a year apart so I considered it being a case of going by given name instead of mid after leaving home. After further research,I found records for both Isaac and wife, Adaline Weaver (b.1847/48) and Joseph and wife, Elizabeth Pritchard (b.1854) . I even found them as neighbors! I am positive they are diff people and cannot determine Josephs parents with certainty. There is more information in the sources on Josephs profile,havent made profiles for others until I determine relationship. Thanks for any help :)
WikiTree profile: Joseph Tesseneer
in Genealogy Help by R. Howard G2G5 (5.4k points)
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North Carolina, Index to Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868

Name William Tessenyear
Gender Male
Spouse Rhoda Green
Spouse Gender Female
Bond date 7 Oct 1834
Bond # 000136329
Level Info North Carolina Marriage Bonds, 1741-1868
ImageNum 003109
County Rutherford
Record # 01 301
Bondsman Nicholas Tessen
Witness T F Birchett, C
Household Members
Name Age
William Tessenyear  
Rhoda Green  
by Patricia Stockley G2G6 Pilot (151k points)
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North Carolina, Death Certificates, 1909-1976

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Gender Male
Race White
Age 89
Birth Date abt 1844
Birth Place , North Carolina, United States
Death Date 18 Sep 1933
Death Place Shelby, Cleveland, North Carolina, USA
Spouse Elizabeth Tesseneer
Father Tom Tesseneer
Mother Rodie Green
  Joseph Clophus Tesseneer - 1933
Household Members
Name Age
Joseph Clophus Tesseneer  
Rodie Green (mother)  
Tom Tesseneer (father)(William Thomas)  
Elizabeth Tesseneer (wife)  
by Patricia Stockley G2G6 Pilot (151k points)
I did not have marriage bond, thank you!
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It's not Joseph's parents, but I found some interesting possible records for Elizabeth Pritchard.

An Elizabeth Pritchard living with Tesseneers in the same area as a child:

"United States Census, 1860", database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MD6Q-6LK : 30 December 2015), Elizabeth Pritchard in entry for Nicholas Tessener, 1860.

Nicholas aged a bit fast, but this seems like it could be the same Elizabeth:

"United States Census, 1870," database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWDM-5TG : 17 October 2014), Elizabeth Tessonyear in household of Nic Tessonyear, North Carolina, United States; citing p. 1, family 5, NARA microfilm publication M593 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.); FHL microfilm 552,658.

And then a marriage between a Joseph Tesseneer and an Elizabeth Tesseneer at the right time and place:

"North Carolina, County Marriages, 1762-1979 ," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:F839-DJB : 8 July 2016), Joseph Tessenyear and Elizabeth Tessenear, 16 Apr 1871; citing , Rutherford, North Carolina, United States, p. Page 11, Office of Archives and History, Division of Archives and Records. State Archive of North Carolina and various county Register of Deeds; FHL microfilm 428,312.

by Tyler Bindon G2G4 (4.4k points)
I am sure Elizabeth Pritchard in household of Nicholas Tessener is the right Elizabeth as Nicholas is her grandfather. Her mother is his daughter Malinda and husband Joeseph Pritchard. I have that portion of the family back to Germany. Also a Nicholas Jr who is the father of William Thomas Tesseneer. Very complicated lol. Thanks :)
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Wow you do have quite a challenge.  I have spent some time trying to see what I can find and I don't think I have had much success, except perhaps for the death cert for Joseph which shows his parents' names.  I have a subscrip for Ancestry.com so I will look up things for you if you like.  Or you can get their free 2-week offer and do your own searching. Good luck!!
by Patricia Stockley G2G6 Pilot (151k points)
So you see my problem! I know William Thomas and Rhoda existed & were married with children, but none of the children are Joseph. I know Joseph existed and married Elizabeth Pritchard. I cant find any proof of Joseph being their son. Several other interesting puzzles with these Tesseneers. A family story passed down for years of native american ancestry. Many in the family have very straight black hair & natural year round tan lol.  It is becoming a bit of an obsession figuring this out. I may take you up on offer to look up some things on ancestry! Thank you :) Oh, the death certificate info came from family Bible.

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